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Nataboo
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Posted - 2005.07.27 03:41:00 -
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To our friends in the North (no not you PA)
Keep up the good fight, I am sure that all conflects have two side and that there are always unknowns. I frankly don't care about that(not to lower the importance of it though). I do though see the honor with which the Xelas Alliance has made its fight. Who cares if PA thinks they lent, gave or whatever they did. Tenal at this moment, and I am sure from this moment on belongs to Xelas.
Although Aurora Empire is a modest corp we would like to extend our help upon your request.
Diplomatic Contacts: Jade Ro Nataboo IMD Ratkiller
P.S. KEEP UP THE FIGHT
Aurora Empire Out Nataboo High Admiral Aurora Fleet |

DIAL911
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Posted - 2005.07.27 05:03:00 -
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Edited by: DIAL911 on 27/07/2005 05:03:52 Oh look honey, a nobody/nothing corp pretending to be important and big, that's so cute! 
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CdCommander
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Posted - 2005.07.27 05:33:00 -
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who cares? 
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Shittake
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Posted - 2005.07.27 06:47:00 -
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Originally by: Nataboo I do though see the honor with which the Xelas Alliance has made its fight.
So you see honor in totally disregarding a treaty and allying yourself with the enemies of your neighbors?
Originally by: Nataboo Who cares if PA thinks they lent, gave or whatever they did. Tenal at this moment, and I am sure from this moment on belongs to Xelas.
Do you even have a clue about what's going on up here? Xelas has lost 2/3 of the stations it held in Tenal. Granted that may change as I'm sure their good friends in BoB/5 may just come up to help them, but who knows.
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2005.07.27 08:11:00 -
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I dont think this has to do with what has happened between the PA and Xelas now. I think its more of PA acting like a arrogant little brats thats now starting to anger people into seeing PA as the bad guys just by thier attitudes.
And you keep up those posts "YOU ARE A NOBODY INSIGNIFAGANT CORP" and the ridiculous superiority complex. More and more people are going to side against the PA. So is PA membership going to continue and insult people and trying to bully people to thier way of thinking like half witted tyrants on these boards?
PA is not furthering its case by kicked sand in the eyes of everyone who sees them in the wrong light. Get some leadership. Oh wait....all the decent leadership is in Xelas now. Nevermind. What passes for PA leadership now is the "old school" trigger happy bandits who cheat thier membership out of oppertunities by carrying out thier own selfish vendettas and not doing whats best for the people below them.
Nice.
Those select indeviduals in PA that despise everyone who wont see thier way of thinking, look at what your doing.
Nataboo,
Dont worry about them pitching insults instead of diplomacy to you. Anyone who isnt an unethical, backstabber. They tend to see as weak.
-------------------------- Vist the Jericho Fraction Forums
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Shittake
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Posted - 2005.07.27 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ly'sol I dont think this has to do with what has happened between the PA and Xelas now. I think its more of PA acting like a arrogant little brats thats now starting to anger people into seeing PA as the bad guys just by thier attitudes.
And you keep up those posts "YOU ARE A NOBODY INSIGNIFAGANT CORP" and the ridiculous superiority complex. More and more people are going to side against the PA. So is PA membership going to continue and insult people and trying to bully people to thier way of thinking like half witted tyrants on these boards?
PA is not furthering its case by kicked sand in the eyes of everyone who sees them in the wrong light. Get some leadership. Oh wait....all the decent leadership is in Xelas now. Nevermind. What passes for PA leadership now is the "old school" trigger happy bandits who cheat thier membership out of oppertunities by carrying out thier own selfish vendettas and not doing whats best for the people below them.
Nice.
Those select indeviduals in PA that despise everyone who wont see thier way of thinking, look at what your doing.
Nataboo,
Dont worry about them pitching insults instead of diplomacy to you. Anyone who isnt an unethical, backstabber. They tend to see as weak.
Dude, get a grip. I don't know the guy, and he holds potions to which I disagree with.
He made statements which I believe show a lack of understanding of what's actually going on up here and provided him some info, and a point by point refutation of his words.
Am I not even allowed to correct someone without getting whacked with the JF flame bat these days?
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2005.07.27 08:24:00 -
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Edited by: Ly''sol on 27/07/2005 08:24:20 ****take you were cool mate,
All you were doing was saying a few statements.
That was more directed at 911. He seems to be breathing fire, you guys really need to get some control over those fire starters. -------------------------- Vist the Jericho Fraction Forums
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Shittake
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Posted - 2005.07.27 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ly'sol Edited by: Ly''sol on 27/07/2005 08:24:20 ****take you were cool mate,
All you were doing was saying a few statements.
That was more directed at 911. He seems to be breathing fire, you guys really need to get some control over those fire starters.
These forums can become quite addicting, somethign tells me my CEO will tell me to shut up very soon.
"Firestarters" can be found on BOTH sides in this whole debalce for sure. But you gotta look at the first firestarter which caused all other firestarters to . . . umm . . start fires. I can almost gurantee you that if Cochise had NOT set BoB/5 to positive, none of this would have started. Cochise is firestarter #1 in this.
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2005.07.27 08:38:00 -
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Of course there is. You think im claiming JF are angels? pfft...only difference is....we got style. 
And your right indeed, it is addiciting to the point some people get so wound up in it they take things personally.
But just in my opinion of what ive seen, often times a standing change is most likely an excuse to do something, rather than a reason. If Xelas and PA where on such good terms in the first place. This mess would not have happened. I diffenately think that the whole "Allowing" Xelas in Tenal was nothing more than what a rolex watch is to a retired cop.
A gesture from service, regardless if they were liked or not. And if the problems couldnt be solved after several hours of talking to each other who was supposivly ex-alliance mates. One side had to be stonewalling the other. Basically, this little fire has had to been smoldering for months for this type of response. -------------------------- Vist the Jericho Fraction Forums
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Shittake
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Posted - 2005.07.27 08:57:00 -
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Edited by: ****take on 27/07/2005 08:58:13
Originally by: Ly'sol Of course there is. You think im claiming JF are angels? pfft...only difference is....we got style. 
And your right indeed, it is addiciting to the point some people get so wound up in it they take things personally.
But just in my opinion of what ive seen, often times a standing change is most likely an excuse to do something, rather than a reason. If Xelas and PA where on such good terms in the first place. This mess would not have happened. I diffenately think that the whole "Allowing" Xelas in Tenal was nothing more than what a rolex watch is to a retired cop.
A gesture from service, regardless if they were liked or not. And if the problems couldnt be solved after several hours of talking to each other who was supposivly ex-alliance mates. One side had to be stonewalling the other. Basically, this little fire has had to been smoldering for months for this type of response.
I agree with alot of what you said, but I disagree with the standings thing.
I am not a lwayer, but I believe there is a concept of violating the "spirit" of a agreement, as well as the "letter" of it. But the "spirit" of the whole agreement was that we could use each other space and help each other out against the common enemies of the north (which for as long as I've seen means BoB, and more recently 5).
When Xelas set BoB/5 to positive standings, it in essence broke the "spirit" of the agreement buy showing support for the enemies of the north. This statement of support by an alliance (albeit just a bunch of stupid pixelsin a standings page) had a much larger affect on the stability of the north and whether we could trust our neighbors, moreso than a trigger happy PA member.
I am still one who believes that this whole thing can be solved by a TS/Ventrillo meeting in a single night.
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The Clash
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Posted - 2005.07.27 09:02:00 -
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Originally by: DIAL911 Edited by: DIAL911 on 27/07/2005 05:03:52 Oh look honey, a nobody/nothing corp pretending to be important and big, that's so cute! 
Who's your corp again ?
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rocket rider
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Posted - 2005.07.27 09:06:00 -
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THe most amusing thing is, the accusation that xelas was flagrantly cuddling up with BoB, 5, and anyone else in the eve universe..
Interesting to note that all these factions have declared with a big, fat 'eh? What the hell are you talking about? A Nap with who? Xelas? Who are Xelas?'. Or they reply with a 'Nap, nope, not us.'
Yet the PA still maintains that this was the reason for attacking xelas or as some PA pilots have called it 'The Carebear Alliance'. That Xelas was snuggling, canoodling even, with others the PA dont like.
And havent PA done a wonderful job of spinning all this up.
To top if off, we have PA members being eminently rude to those that would offer support and assistance to Xelas. Why do that? Are you feeling threatend that public opinion is turning against PA. Feeling a little nervous?
Your arrogance would be funny, if it wasnt so sad to witness.
All i can say to Nataboo and Aurora Empire, and the JF guys, kudos for standing up to the plate.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.07.27 09:20:00 -
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Originally by: The Clash
Originally by: DIAL911 Edited by: DIAL911 on 27/07/2005 05:03:52 Oh look honey, a nobody/nothing corp pretending to be important and big, that's so cute! 
Who's your corp again ?

d0m1n4t3d
My vids and random stuff
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2005.07.27 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: DIAL911 Edited by: DIAL911 on 27/07/2005 05:03:52 Oh look honey, a nobody/nothing corp pretending to be important and big, that's so cute! 
Those kind of comments are what makes everyone realise how much PA is sad imo...

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Edoo
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Posted - 2005.07.27 12:02:00 -
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The funny thing here is that Xelas backstab PA, declare war on PA, and then PA are the bad guys? 
There are a lot of clueless people posting atm, no offense. PA is just as honourable as another alliance of its size, and it may have a reputation from the past, but frankly anyone saying that PA has no honour etc. is just plain immature.
There are people i dislike in all alliances, but it doesn't mean i stereotype them all. Say we wanted more targets if you want but we had no lack of them. Say we all hate Xelas but thats bull**** because we have plenty of friends in there. The fact is that Xelas started the war, not PA.
So please take in mind what i have said before making assumptions, smacktalking and accusing us of things that didn't even happen.
Thankyou.
--------------------------------- Edoo - Phoenix Alliance Diplomat
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Dr MOo
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Posted - 2005.07.27 12:16:00 -
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Yeah, we may be at war but it doesn't mean we hate eachother. We just want to kill eachother 
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Exus
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Posted - 2005.07.27 12:47:00 -
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bah this board is toasted... its just about whine, whine and whine more... nothing constructive... only flame and sh****
it also have no impact... just a place to drop some blahblah
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Apoll
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Posted - 2005.07.27 13:00:00 -
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Yeah I agree.
Also please (3rd parties/carebears) since you don't have a clue what are you talking about leave PA clean it's house. And is PA mistake who didn't heard the voices not give to Cochise the Tenal region a month and half ago. We all know how he react the very first day after we gave Tenal to him.
Regarding all the JF/BOB/5 and the rest RATS "voices", why you whine and take the side of Cochise? he is the one who kicked you hard. Or you swallow everything and you got his blessings now he is opening you the doors? Hypocrism.
After all Cochise declare war first.
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2005.07.27 13:12:00 -
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/me remembers a time in the dim and distant past when a great eve powerbloc once said.
"who are you?" ....
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The Clash
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Posted - 2005.07.27 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Apoll Yeah I agree.
Also please (3rd parties/carebears) since you don't have a clue what are you talking about leave PA clean it's house. And is PA mistake who didn't heard the voices not give to Cochise the Tenal region a month and half ago. We all know how he react the very first day after we gave Tenal to him.
Regarding all the JF/BOB/5 and the rest RATS "voices", why you whine and take the side of Cochise? he is the one who kicked you hard. Or you swallow everything and you got his blessings now he is opening you the doors? Hypocrism.
After all Cochise declare war first.
I dont side with any1 and i dont like how yer alliance member responded to the original poster .He has teh right to post yer member ha sthe right to be an a$$ and i have the right to return the favor .
ALso i dont like yer tone .
Oh and some of us here do have a clue . _________________
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Exus
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Posted - 2005.07.27 13:31:00 -
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blahblah 
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.07.27 13:32:00 -
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Awwww aren't the PA adorable these days. Goldfish memory syndrome kicking in chaps? Oh wait 90% of you haven't actually been in 0.0 for more than 3 minutes.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Exus
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Posted - 2005.07.27 13:35:00 -
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blah; ill blah every time you whine blah ! 
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Tuberider
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Posted - 2005.07.27 14:17:00 -
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Hello wow people seem to have alot of anger to vent on these forums
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YodaMasterJedi
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Posted - 2005.07.27 14:47:00 -
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Quote: These forums can become quite addicting, somethign tells me my CEO will tell me to shut up very soon.
As my former CEO (and still highly respected friend) I'm telling you to shut up!!  I'm just kidding bud And since when did you become a forum *****? You always told me you hate the forums and politcs!! You should be investing more time mining and less time whoring!! You better mine in Branch while you still can
/Me remembers the words of BOB......"Nice Region, We'll Take It!"
Peace out Mushroom. Love Ya!!
P.S. This is not a flame, ****take and I are very close friends and is purely friendly banter 
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Dr MOo
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Posted - 2005.07.27 15:27:00 -
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Yeah, lots of us do have friends in PA, and maybe you third parties are going a bit over the top flaming them here, when you don't really know what happened.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.07.27 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: DIAL911 Edited by: DIAL911 on 27/07/2005 05:03:52 Oh look honey, a nobody/nothing corp pretending to be important and big, that's so cute! 
Serious question. Who are the Spanish Inquisition? Is there a public info site we could look at and maybe see who these wonderful paragons of "whats important and big" actually are?
And yep, respect to the thread-starting corp for making their opinions public. They have a right to do so, and in the Eve Star Cluster standing up to be counted is worth 1000x more respect than just running with the alliance mob and joining a queue to talk nonsense. I don't care how good you are in a pack, the true test of courage is declaring your position and making yourself a target for actually believing in something.
"Every act of creation is first an act of destruction."
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Nataboo
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Posted - 2005.07.27 15:55:00 -
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Although Aurora Empire is a third party I can assure you in the PA that we have an idea of what is happening. And from what I have seen in the other posts many other CORPS know what is going on. But you have a right to post what you think as do we. In fact I encourage you in the PA to post away. Each post you make simply justifies our support of Xelas Alliance and the corps that make up the alliance.
Nataboo High Admiral Aurora Empire
P.S. BOB Can we rent an office in BKG?  Nataboo High Admiral Aurora Fleet |

Jade Ro
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Posted - 2005.07.27 16:08:00 -
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I think... that PA has swelled their ranks... with some rather arrogant players that needs to be cleaned out.. ; ) not all PA can be bad. I realize this... However I keep reading these posts.. and .. I really dont have to look any deeper. The true virtue of PA is showing its true colors. For those in PA with a shred of honor.. would be nice to hear from you.. but until then..
Maybe Leaders of PA should look into some of these trouble makers... and keep them from posting... it really looks bad for PA when they do and it does not help their cause.
Jade Ro - CEO Aurora Empire
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2005.07.27 16:48:00 -
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pa is pathetic joke, now tryin to makes it even funnier
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