goldiiee - if you link the threads to me (preferably 1 for getting a fleet and 1 for fits) or make a new thread for each, I can sticky them in recruitment :)

goldiiee - if you link the threads to me (preferably 1 for getting a fleet and 1 for fits) or make a new thread for each, I can sticky them in recruitment :)

I've tried The Ditanian fleet and every fleet associated with them. They wont even answer my requests.

Looking for a fleet. I've got moderate Macharial skills and the isk to buy one of I do get into a fleet.

goldiiee - if you link the threads to me (preferably 1 for getting a fleet and 1 for fits) or make a new thread for each, I can sticky them in recruitment :)

ISN thread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=171730

Stickied :)

ICU: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2295571

What was the issue in TDF? Questions about your fit or getting into fleets? Armour has been bleeding numbers & weekday fleet numbers especially in late USTZ have been disheartening, sorry.
After seeing CCP Fozies' proposals for armor changes I can't stop thinking about a CCP bias against Armor fits... especially in PvE: I can't see a single helpful thing that'll help armor Incursion runners.

dude you know what the issue is.

YES THE REAL ISSUE IS ARMOUR FLEETS GOT ABSOLUTELY ARSE ****** BY THE ESCALATION NERF
While we can still complete sites: in contests we got screwed with no shield/armour balancing in Assaults( in Assaults armour actually became even worselly disadvantaged ) or HQ's: shields have all the advantages so now armour fleets can only really complete in 1 site: the NCO's and even there it is often even.

Armour fleets are slowly dying CCP Affinity, armour numbers are dropping. Are we going to be stuck with the same old Incursion sites for the next year? If not please consider adjusting sites for better armour/shield contests... the Tracking Enhancer nerf this summer ain't going to balance jack **** in Assaults, HQ's OTA's nor NMCs

Are Incursions going to be ignored again just like Faction Warfare was for so many years?

Lose plates . Get deadspace ENAM ( only 1 on each ship ) . Fit explosive pump and rest fit with damage / tracking / sebo mods . Fit T2 reps on logis . Lose plates from logis . Train pilots to a mindset of working for your isk and not chilling to get paid and you will have quality armor fleets .

Lose plates . Get deadspace ENAM ( only 1 on each ship ) . Fit explosive pump and rest fit with damage / tracking / sebo mods.

if not for armour/shield balance then for the sake of not doing the same 10 sites' spawns for years straight. Gimme new content ( that doesn't break the game like the Escalation nerf did that is )

Oversimplistic.

There are 3 key things that tips the balance in favor of shield ships.
1) Instantaneous remote repairs. This advantage is massive in AS/HQ, allowing shield ships to run with almost no buffer or very little buffer.
2) Adaptive invulnerability confers massive resist bonuses that allows shields to a) effectively tank what's naturally an armor ship b) single slot mid tank Broken? You be the judge.
3) Passive shield regeneration bonus. This makes RR even more efficient and the numbers are quite significant (approaching the amount of difference between Meta4 and T2 rep in some cases).

Contrary to popular opinion that shield ships are better because they have more spare low slots for damage mods, armor ships too can be similarly fitted in a such a way. Unfortunately, you'll get an armor build which operates an even lower tank threshold than its equivalent shield build - after you take into account those 3 synergies above. Following through, it'll put an incredible strain on the skill of an armor logi pilots (which exceeds their typical shield logi peers). It can be done, but impractical for the long term.

Now, in the very remote or almost zero possibility that CCP changes the armor RR to instantaneous reps, I can almost guarantee you'll be seeing plates off the menu for most armor parties.

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Armor fleet still has t hat shield buffer of 8 - 9k right ? Why not rep that up every time the target is not shot at anymore ? Can be done by drones . Would give you those missing 3 seconds from that rep cycle that differs from the shield reps .

I've tried The Ditanian fleet and every fleet associated with them. They wont even answer my requests.

Looking for a fleet. I've got moderate Macharial skills and the isk to buy one of I do get into a fleet.

Armor fleet still has t hat shield buffer of 8 - 9k right ? Why not rep that up every time the target is not shot at anymore ? Can be done by drones . Would give you those missing 3 seconds from that rep cycle that differs from the shield reps .

YES THE REAL ISSUE IS ARMOUR FLEETS GOT ABSOLUTELY ARSE ****** BY THE ESCALATION NERF
While we can still complete sites: in contests we got screwed with no shield/armour balancing in Assaults or HQ's: shields have all the advantages so now armour fleets can only really complete in 1 site: the NCO's and even there it is often even.

I fly a plateless Bhaal...

So ******* sick of hearing about the single mid slot tank bullshit. Seriously. There aren't fleets of people running around with a single slot on their ship dedicated to tank, period. Said theorycrafting is repulsive.