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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.07.21 17:51:00 -
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Dignity is a lost concept on l33ts, why then apply it on me?
About the real world, corporations are surely named with numbers sometimes but what does that have to do with persons and integrity? Oh yeah, another concept completely out of place it would seem.
Numbers are cold, meant to disassociate feeling from, that's why the ****s used them with such great success and prison systems still do.
Myself I'd stop associating with a person changing their name into l33t or adding numbers too it, overly attentionseeking people sickens me.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.07.21 17:51:00 -
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Dignity is a lost concept on l33ts, why then apply it on me?
About the real world, corporations are surely named with numbers sometimes but what does that have to do with persons and integrity? Oh yeah, another concept completely out of place it would seem.
Numbers are cold, meant to disassociate feeling from, that's why the ****s used them with such great success and prison systems still do.
Myself I'd stop associating with a person changing their name into l33t or adding numbers too it, overly attentionseeking people sickens me.
Remind me about The Maze.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.07.21 20:22:00 -
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"About the real world, corporations are surely named with numbers sometimes but what does that have to do with persons and integrity?"
Well, this doesn't have much to do with Eve anymore, but...
George (2nd)****ala.
Henry 1st Blair.
John (3rd Baron) Fitzwalter.
John D. Rockefeller, 3rd.
...there you go. They're all real names of real people, btw.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.07.21 20:22:00 -
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"About the real world, corporations are surely named with numbers sometimes but what does that have to do with persons and integrity?"
Well, this doesn't have much to do with Eve anymore, but...
George (2nd)****ala.
Henry 1st Blair.
John (3rd Baron) Fitzwalter.
John D. Rockefeller, 3rd.
...there you go. They're all real names of real people, btw.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.07.21 23:28:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 21/07/2003 23:31:52
Those are titles in most cases and none of them has a number stuck into their actual names, the numbers stand by themselves. I couldn't care less if there were a Lord Zap II, he probably would, a lorZap2 would be pityful though...
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.07.21 23:28:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 21/07/2003 23:31:52
Those are titles in most cases and none of them has a number stuck into their actual names, the numbers stand by themselves. I couldn't care less if there were a Lord Zap II, he probably would, a lorZap2 would be pityful though...
Remind me about The Maze.
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Rymar Vortox
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Posted - 2003.07.22 06:55:00 -
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Dude get a freakin life. It would be differnt if players were using offensive names which I have seen non off and you're complaining about numbers in other players names in a futuristic technological space game where such names have a place???
Names with numbers in them or techy hacker type names or whatever couldn't be more fitting in any other game.
If you have that much of a problem with it then go play some other game.
Common man if you're gonna ***** about something in the game ***** about something legeitamate.
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Rymar Vortox
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Posted - 2003.07.22 06:55:00 -
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Dude get a freakin life. It would be differnt if players were using offensive names which I have seen non off and you're complaining about numbers in other players names in a futuristic technological space game where such names have a place???
Names with numbers in them or techy hacker type names or whatever couldn't be more fitting in any other game.
If you have that much of a problem with it then go play some other game.
Common man if you're gonna ***** about something in the game ***** about something legeitamate.
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Liessa
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Posted - 2003.07.22 11:11:00 -
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As for attention seeking , you sure got enough when you started this pitiful thread.
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Liessa
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Posted - 2003.07.22 11:11:00 -
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As for attention seeking , you sure got enough when you started this pitiful thread.
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Rhonstet
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Posted - 2003.07.22 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: Rhonstet on 22/07/2003 13:35:25
Edited by: Rhonstet on 22/07/2003 13:32:46
Of course, what I find fascinating about Danton's take on l33tspeak is that Playerki err Pirates attack others for generally much less developed reasons.
As for those who agree with Danton, I'd point out the following article.
[url=http://www.mmorpgdot.com/index.php?hsaction=10053&ID=655]
http://www.mmorpgdot.com/index.php?hsaction=10053&ID=655[/url]
Not that j0sephine's argument is better. Numerical designations used for things like 'R2-D2' are actual names, specifically a common naming format for Droids in the Star Wars mythos. Likewise, people who have numbers as part of their names do so in a formalized classical fashion. It's Henry VIII, not H3nry VIII.
But even that is functionally irrelevant. If you look at the POTWs, name a _single_ reference where a character in a story has numbers in their name.
Danton, I personally suggest you look at names as the following.
From an In-Character perspective, names might be a liability. If people know who you really are and where you come from, they might be able to use that knowledge to attack you through unconventional means. This might be especially true for pirates and smugglers. Their names and handles are fake, new identities to give them no past or to befuddle attempts to track them and their assets.
From an Out-of-Character perspective, some handles represent a common established persona that people like to move from one game to another. Using the same name in different games means that people can build relationships and interactions between several different games. I've noticed from my own years of experience that l33tspeakers tend to be more clannish (note that they are not always more sociable!) and as such, they might want to preserve that identity.
And as an interesting side note, anyone who posts "Dude get a freakin life." on a forum devoted to a MMORPG is practically declaring their own mental myopia. "Since I find your argument offensive, I am going to dismiss it offhand with a casual insult while expressing my own opinion, which I expect you to respect."
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Rhonstet
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Posted - 2003.07.22 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: Rhonstet on 22/07/2003 13:35:25
Edited by: Rhonstet on 22/07/2003 13:32:46
Of course, what I find fascinating about Danton's take on l33tspeak is that Playerki err Pirates attack others for generally much less developed reasons.
As for those who agree with Danton, I'd point out the following article.
[url=http://www.mmorpgdot.com/index.php?hsaction=10053&ID=655]
http://www.mmorpgdot.com/index.php?hsaction=10053&ID=655[/url]
Not that j0sephine's argument is better. Numerical designations used for things like 'R2-D2' are actual names, specifically a common naming format for Droids in the Star Wars mythos. Likewise, people who have numbers as part of their names do so in a formalized classical fashion. It's Henry VIII, not H3nry VIII.
But even that is functionally irrelevant. If you look at the POTWs, name a _single_ reference where a character in a story has numbers in their name.
Danton, I personally suggest you look at names as the following.
From an In-Character perspective, names might be a liability. If people know who you really are and where you come from, they might be able to use that knowledge to attack you through unconventional means. This might be especially true for pirates and smugglers. Their names and handles are fake, new identities to give them no past or to befuddle attempts to track them and their assets.
From an Out-of-Character perspective, some handles represent a common established persona that people like to move from one game to another. Using the same name in different games means that people can build relationships and interactions between several different games. I've noticed from my own years of experience that l33tspeakers tend to be more clannish (note that they are not always more sociable!) and as such, they might want to preserve that identity.
And as an interesting side note, anyone who posts "Dude get a freakin life." on a forum devoted to a MMORPG is practically declaring their own mental myopia. "Since I find your argument offensive, I am going to dismiss it offhand with a casual insult while expressing my own opinion, which I expect you to respect."
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.07.22 14:00:00 -
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"Likewise, people who have numbers as part of their names do so in a formalized classical fashion. It's Henry VIII, not H3nry VIII."
Indeed. However i was under impression at that particular point Danton was flat-out denying any credibility to any name which would include a number in any form.(note that not allowing numbers in names makes also impossible combinations like Henry 9 which could be someone's attempt to play 'modern' descendant of the kings of the old England or something equally random and far from 'l33t' *shrugs*)
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.07.22 14:00:00 -
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"Likewise, people who have numbers as part of their names do so in a formalized classical fashion. It's Henry VIII, not H3nry VIII."
Indeed. However i was under impression at that particular point Danton was flat-out denying any credibility to any name which would include a number in any form.(note that not allowing numbers in names makes also impossible combinations like Henry 9 which could be someone's attempt to play 'modern' descendant of the kings of the old England or something equally random and far from 'l33t' *shrugs*)
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Rhonstet
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Posted - 2003.07.22 14:40:00 -
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Well, roleplayers tend to judge l33tspeakers with more then a little scorn, and vice versa.
Credibility isn't something a single person can grant anyway. And since the game has the double whammy of a non-critical storyline and a clientele that comes from both RPG and FPS roots, I don't think CCP could sensibly ban l33tspeak even if it wanted to.
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Rhonstet
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Posted - 2003.07.22 14:40:00 -
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Well, roleplayers tend to judge l33tspeakers with more then a little scorn, and vice versa.
Credibility isn't something a single person can grant anyway. And since the game has the double whammy of a non-critical storyline and a clientele that comes from both RPG and FPS roots, I don't think CCP could sensibly ban l33tspeak even if it wanted to.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.07.22 19:10:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 22/07/2003 19:16:10
Rhonstet, I'd love to read those articles but the links are shot.
Yes, I sure am sick of this thread by now, the sad truth about online gamers carrying around their identity from game to game like a badge doesn't really help me in accepting and understanding this breed.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.07.22 19:10:00 -
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Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 22/07/2003 19:16:10
Rhonstet, I'd love to read those articles but the links are shot.
Yes, I sure am sick of this thread by now, the sad truth about online gamers carrying around their identity from game to game like a badge doesn't really help me in accepting and understanding this breed.
Remind me about The Maze.
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Rymar Vortox
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Posted - 2003.07.22 20:06:00 -
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The first comment I should've left out. The rest after that is appropriate.
Xuse me but it just seems rediculous to me when someone makes a big deal of a naming scheme that isn't harmfull in any way and is pertinent and relavent to the game's time era and moreso belongs in the game.
This naming schema has used by the devs themselves in the outer deep space regions, constellations, and sys names.
It makes no sense to make such a big deal out of something such as this.
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Rymar Vortox
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Posted - 2003.07.22 20:06:00 -
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The first comment I should've left out. The rest after that is appropriate.
Xuse me but it just seems rediculous to me when someone makes a big deal of a naming scheme that isn't harmfull in any way and is pertinent and relavent to the game's time era and moreso belongs in the game.
This naming schema has used by the devs themselves in the outer deep space regions, constellations, and sys names.
It makes no sense to make such a big deal out of something such as this.
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Guerdain
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Posted - 2006.04.27 11:47:00 -
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Well, im on the same ground as you when it comes to the l337 topic but i must dissagree with you on enforcing a ban on integers in names or totaly interger based names. Numerals arent bad, its the out of character contect that they get used in that is bad. like if your name is 10101010101010 i can see how that could be considdered lame but if there is concept to it i think it is more than reasonible. Infact i was searching for a name idea ewhen i found this thread and with this topic you have inspired me and i commend you. I play a construct character that is an advanced AI (as in the characters rollplay theme) in many games , mostly paper and dice. i actually use the generic constructs nazax (hense my nazaxprime accounts all over the web) but i think im gunna build a sub-construct AI with the name of an integer for this game and i think if it fits anywhere, it would be here in EVE where there are clones, high technology and more diversity (in concept) than you can shake a newb tube at. now id agree it would be lame if my bio was not well done but alass im all about the bio so, uhh thanks.
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Guerdain
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Posted - 2006.04.27 11:48:00 -
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Well, im on the same ground as you when it comes to the l337 topic but i must dissagree with you on enforcing a ban on integers in names or totaly interger based names. Numerals arent bad, its the out of character contect that they get used in that is bad. like if your name is 10101010101010 i can see how that could be considdered lame but if there is concept to it i think it is more than reasonible. Infact i was searching for a name idea ewhen i found this thread and with this topic you have inspired me and i commend you. I play a construct character that is an advanced AI (as in the characters rollplay theme) in many games , mostly paper and dice. i actually use the generic constructs nazax (hense my nazaxprime accounts all over the web) but i think im gunna build a sub-construct AI with the name of an integer for this game and i think if it fits anywhere, it would be here in EVE where there are clones, high technology and more diversity (in concept) than you can shake a newb tube at. now id agree it would be lame if my bio was not well done but alass im all about the bio so, uhh thanks.
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Guerdain
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Posted - 2006.04.27 11:48:00 -
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Well, im on the same ground as you when it comes to the l337 topic but i must dissagree with you on enforcing a ban on integers in names or totaly interger based names. Numerals arent bad, its the out of character contect that they get used in that is bad. like if your name is 10101010101010 i can see how that could be considdered lame but if there is concept to it i think it is more than reasonible. Infact i was searching for a name idea ewhen i found this thread and with this topic you have inspired me and i commend you. I play a construct character that is an advanced AI (as in the characters rollplay theme) in many games , mostly paper and dice. i actually use the generic constructs nazax (hense my nazaxprime accounts all over the web) but i think im gunna build a sub-construct AI with the name of an integer for this game and i think if it fits anywhere, it would be here in EVE where there are clones, high technology and more diversity (in concept) than you can shake a newb tube at. now id agree it would be lame if my bio was not well done but alass im all about the bio so, uhh thanks.
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Guerdain
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Posted - 2006.04.27 11:48:00 -
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Well, im on the same ground as you when it comes to the l337 topic but i must dissagree with you on enforcing a ban on integers in names or totaly interger based names. Numerals arent bad, its the out of character contect that they get used in that is bad. like if your name is 10101010101010 i can see how that could be considdered lame but if there is concept to it i think it is more than reasonible. Infact i was searching for a name idea ewhen i found this thread and with this topic you have inspired me and i commend you. I play a construct character that is an advanced AI (as in the characters rollplay theme) in many games , mostly paper and dice. i actually use the generic constructs nazax (hense my nazaxprime accounts all over the web) but i think im gunna build a sub-construct AI with the name of an integer for this game and i think if it fits anywhere, it would be here in EVE where there are clones, high technology and more diversity (in concept) than you can shake a newb tube at. now id agree it would be lame if my bio was not well done but alass im all about the bio so, uhh thanks.
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.04.27 14:43:00 -
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If you don't like their names, shoot them. Your name would then become just as unpopular.
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Yurameki Daishun
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Posted - 2006.04.27 14:48:00 -
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well, people get shot in real life for their names, I think that's fine...
but I do agree that people who use elite text for their names, should be forced to change it, it's supposed to be an RP game, so make it RP, this is the stumbling block for all online games, and it's irritating, no one in real life is j00 thug, and none of these little s*** heads know what elite text really is, where it came from, or anything else, they're just irritating. grow up, be creative, come up with something cool, and if some pirate says F U your name sounds like a dishwasher or a cat wretching, **** in his eye, and pop the bugger...
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Mihail d'Amour
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Posted - 2006.04.27 14:54:00 -
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Yes, script kiddies and l33t-speak are lame. The only thing that is more morally wrong than taking someone else's work to create graffitti and a social-norm out of the ingenuity of subculture (which is what these people do) is to attempt to instill your own beliefs by force upon others through the banning of language, names, and therefore ideas. I'll take an ignorant man speaking his mind any day over the presumptive arrogance that you should be able to determine what ignorance is and save me from having to hear or read it.
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sb404
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Posted - 2006.04.27 14:56:00 -
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Edited by: sb404 on 27/04/2006 15:01:03
Edited by: sb404 on 27/04/2006 15:00:14
 Originally by: Guerdain
Well, im on the same ground as you when it comes to the l337 topic but i must dissagree with you on enforcing a ban on integers in names or totaly interger based names. Numerals arent bad, its the out of character contect that they get used in that is bad. like if your name is 10101010101010 i can see how that could be considdered lame but if there is concept to it i think it is more than reasonible. Infact i was searching for a name idea ewhen i found this thread and with this topic you have inspired me and i commend you. I play a construct character that is an advanced AI (as in the characters rollplay theme) in many games , mostly paper and dice. i actually use the generic constructs nazax (hense my nazaxprime accounts all over the web) but i think im gunna build a sub-construct AI with the name of an integer for this game and i think if it fits anywhere, it would be here in EVE where there are clones, high technology and more diversity (in concept) than you can shake a newb tube at. now id agree it would be lame if my bio was not well done but alass im all about the bio so, uhh thanks.
And the prize for bringing a dead 2003 thread back to life with a triple (edit : make that quadruple)post goes to...
Edit to keep on subject eventhough OP as prolly quit by now, oppressed by ugly numbers in people names.
I will state that I don't use my Caldari given name, but my callsign, it was given to me at the accademy and has stuck ever since.
What's in a name? A Moa by any other name would look just as ugly.
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PenguinExX
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Posted - 2006.04.27 17:02:00 -
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who the F*** cares? its just a friggin name god-dammnit
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BlckJck90
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Posted - 2006.04.27 18:35:00 -
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