Earn more isk.

So we finally get our ancillary repairer after shield tankers have already had their version for a while. Except ours uses cap and theirs doesn't. Oh and they get to use cap booster ammo for cheap while ammo for a medium ancillary repairer and one reload costs 2,400,000 ISK or so. How is this fair?

Tip 1

Get your 3 slot toons able to PI

Tip2

Build your paste

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Profit

Option: fly shield ships.

Or they could just balance their game for once.

It's not meant to be fair.

So we finally get our ancillary repairer after shield tankers have already had their version for a while. Except ours uses cap and theirs doesn't. Oh and they get to use cap booster ammo for cheap while ammo for a medium ancillary repairer and one reload costs 2,400,000 ISK or so. How is this fair?

In what way is it imbalanced?

Yeah sorry it must be my fault for not flying a drake like literally everyone in Eve.

In what way is it imbalanced?

It IS meant to be fair.

They don't speak English where you're from? Read the first post.

ASBs use no cap when loaded, filling them with caps is cheap.
AARs will use cap, filling them with paste requires several times more ISK.
ASBs come in four sizes, are not limited to one per ship, and mid-size hulls (BCs) are able to fit one or two of the biggest ones.

You can use the new reppers when you run out of charges without killing your cap, and you can use all that cargo space on an actual cap booster to keep everything else runningGǪ how is that fair? Oh, wait, it's not in the exact same way as ASBs using cap charges is not fair.

Your first post just whinged about fairness and costs and made some very vague point about caps that wasn't really based on anything. The latter might be a balance problem, but you don't actually show that it is. SooooGǪ in what way is it imbalanced?

Cost is not a balancing factor, so that part is irrelevant.

Easy. Single or multiple ASB tanking ships do not NEED to sacrifice another mid for a cap booster. They put those caps into ANOTHER tanking module.

In fact, if ASBs used cap as well (which would be FAIR), ASB users could ALSO fit a cap booster as you suggest.

Only, you are not considering that even then, ASB users have many more midslots for this, and armor tankers can't fit a booster on their lots of Lowslots, right?

You are confusing "fairness" with "making everything the same".

The armor version being inferior in every way was vague?

A deimos is better and costs more than a thorax and caldari navy antimatter is better and costs more than T1. For everything else in the game more expensive means better.

Ok. So what's the actual effects of the cap usage? How does it translate into unfairness?

Cost is not a balancing factor, so that part is irrelevant.

Soft size restrictions are just of way in which armour and shield reps differ

Cost has nothing to do with balance, especially not in a game where those costs are determined by the players

Tip 1

Get your 3 slot toons able to PI

Tip2

Build your paste

Tip 3

Profit

You are also confusing GÇ£fairGÇ¥ with GÇ£balancedGÇ¥.

Those words mean exactly the same thing.

Yes. How is it inferior?

Cost has nothing to do with balance, especially not in a game where those costs are determined by the players.

Not in Eve.

You don't have to ask, and we both know it.

ASB ships retain 100% of their burst tank capabilities under heavy neuting. AAR users would fail there and then.

Cost IS a factor

Still disagree on this.

The fact is as follows: whether shield tanking and armor tanking are meant to be different or the same, ASBs are so much more useful IN ALL SHIPS compared to AARs that even active armor bonused ships will still be better off with ASB fits.

The one thing I have found odd with the design of both Ancillary modules is the cap usage.

the ASB uses no cap. And is prevalent on shield tanked ships (obviously). The 2 races the do the best shield tanking by design, happen to have their primariy weapon systems also be capless (missiles and projectiles).

The traditionally armor tank heavy races get a module that still uses cap. and their primary weapon systems also require cap (lasers and hybrids).

Not sure if it means anything but I always found that somewhat interesting. Seems like it should have been reversed.

Shield gets cheaper charges, doesn't use cap, came out first, and if it follows the trend of normal boosters and repairers it probably heals for more too.

You just keep repeating that and one day it'll become true.