I've got two questions, firstly would a micro jump drive be of any use in an incursion ?

Secondly would a mainly T2 fit and a couple of faction mods rattlesnake with 80% omni resist, 167k EHP and between 887 and 1080 dps with fury cruise missles and sentry II drones be welcome in most fleets ???

Thanks for the helpful info.

Quick question, If using a Navy Mega or Vindi would they be blaster or rail fit or does that change depending on the specifics of the site?

So what's ballpark isk per hour on incursions, and how long does it take to complete sites, and how long are you generally expected to stick around once you get in a fleet?

I'll be flying a snake soon but i dont have the spider tanking skills, so could you please post a fit so i know what i need to train up ?

So when I land in the Incursion constellation should I go to the system in the journal to find a fleet? or should I stop before I get to the constellation. I guess what I am asking is, who protects me from the rats once I get there but before I get into fleet.

Hi there,

thank you goldiiee for this thread, I've been wanting to do incursions since they were created, and recently I've decided to try them... with no luck at the moment

I'm flying an armor Mega Navy, following TDF's fitting doctrines, and though I've not yet T2 guns (until this weekend), I think i've a pretty solid fit, and some people in TDF's channel told me so.

The problem I see coming is that I'm not a native english-speaker (I'm spanish), I can read and write english, but my speak/hearing experience is very poor, does that mean that I won't be able to understand FC? is that really important?

I'm sure I'll do my best to grow and improve in any fleet that would accept me, but I don't want to be "the noob" that gets kicked off the fleet just for not understanding spoken english

Thanks a lot for your quick reply!

First of all, I'd like to try in english speaking fleets, as I think I've lost use of english language, and I think I'll get used to it quickly. I tried to look for spanish-speaking fleets and it was impossible some months ago, even I tried to FC spanish people, but as they disbanded, seemed impossible to form even a small fleet.

I'll keep trying to get a place inside armor fleets, I think it's a matter of time (and luck), and whenever I get confortable with my language skills, and get the money for a Vindicator, I'll make a move, learn how to FC and use a good Logistic ship. Maybe with time I'll find spanish-speaking people, but english won't hurt me either :)

Would you recommend me any entry-friendly armor fleet in particular? I'll stick to TDF's channel meanwhile.

I'm sorry, rigs + tank, I mean :)

What I wanted to say is that what I really want is run incursions, and I don't mind to change my fittings, as far as all training invested in my career is not wasted, I could fly a T2 / Faction Machariel too, but I prefer the slim and elegant lines of the Megathron/MNI/Vindicator Hull :)

Are there any fleets that I can join right now?

I'm heading to the incursion in noli right now.

I guess I'm blind. What are the chat channel names for these groups?

Is there any starter to advanced armor fleets?

Ive done like 4 incursion sites with mixed results (bad FC, bad fleet makeup) all right after they were introduced. Would like to get back into them, but having issues figuring out how an armor tanker breaks in.

I have BS L5 and T2 torps, Is their no possible way to make a fleet issue typhoon work for incurison?. I'd like to put those skills to some use but they seem have very little place in eve anymore.

The only thing i thought ''could'' be usefull was as a dedicated BS spanker. My phoon for example with heavy drones (do heavy drones get bad agro, or to slow?) puts out around 1400 dps. With the launcher rigs and T2 torps it can just reach 20km with missile L4 for range skills. That's very limited and the buffer also suffers.. Maybe Tp's can make it osmewhat usefull on the cruisers too.. but i guess it would only put out 1/4 the dps on them? if that.

I guess i answer my own questions ;[.. hope they hurry up and fix the typhoon as i miss using it.

Anyone uses tengus in incursions these days? Or are they pretty much obsolete?

Hi Goldiiee,

do you know if any of the Incursion groups run in the Australian Time Zone?

Regards

Krail

As a lower skilled character but meeting the minimum requirements with resistances all t2 except for guns....what are the chances of getting into noob incursions? Should I specialize as something like a sniper? Also do most incursions not pick anything other than BS, SC, and logi? Could someone get picked up in a BC with a decent fit?

I only ask because it seems like people do consider these.

So what is the standard procedure for going about joining an incursion. Go to the system...post your fit and wait for someone to accept you or wait for an FC to send you a message?

Rokh is welcome in Incursions fleets?

Been looking at getting into Incursions and have almost finished training down two separate ship lines, so wanted to get some advice.

Shield fleets seem to be the most popular, if your list is any indication, but I've seen a lot of traditionally-armor-tanked ships run perfectly fine shield buffer fits for Incursions. So my question is: Would I have better luck getting into a fleet with a Maelstrom, or a Megathron, assuming both were T2 fit?

(On another note, ACs or Artis on the Maelstrom?)

Evening. I have a character that I'm going to move into logistics for small gang work and I would like to get her doing some incursion logi if at all possible. I am currently leaning towards the Scimitar because I like the versatility and it just works better for the type of small gang stuff my friends and I will be doing. So my question is if there is a place for Scimi's in incursions? Or should I just go for a Basi if I want to run pve stuff?

Regards,

Very good information in here.

I really hate that logi 5 is required to fly by most groups. This pilot has a very strong set of skills (in terms of shield skills I'm missing lvl 5 on a couple of the reinforcement damage types and that's it), can fly a basi or a scimi, can field tech 2 shield drones (not to mention countless other fitting skills). However, she is useless for another 20-some days while she trains logi 5. I have a second toon for incursions because this one has horrible gallente and minnie faction standing, and he will be ready for incursions 10 hours after this one, despite having half as many skill points. In general, he will not be as strong, but he will be able to match the fittings and have logi v (and oddly enough he will be able to fly a guardian as well as a basi and scimi).

Sorry for the mini-rant. I know the extra 15% cap use reduction is important, but having to train the support skill to 5 is murder. I imagine I could top off several other skills in that 20 day window.

Are there any fleets that are more lenient on the logi 5 requirement, assuming the pilot can field a strong ship otherwise? (don't even bother asking about fielding a dps ship, my SP are heavy into missiles with almost no hybrids or other guns)

Will I be able to do incursions in navy apoc if I don't have all t2 mods? I have t2 defense (reps/hardeners), but not offense.

Hi Goldiiee, thanks again for the great feedback you have been giving. Lots of good stuff here.

I have a question in rerdards to dps vs logi role? Which role would give a spot in an incursion fleet quicker as a newish player? LIke is the waiting list shorter for Logi pilots or is the wait just as long as it is for a dps role? I mean I am sure there are a lot of dps pilots waiting for a spot but are there just as many logi pilots waiting as well?

Traditionally support pilots are always needed and hard to come by because most people would rather dps than doing logi stuff.

My toon is fully skilled towards tengu, but to be more flexable and able to fly with different groups or at least with groups that dont take T3, I would either need to train for BS or go the logi route. Any advivce would be appreciate it. Thank you!


P. Blue

Are you able to recommend a FC maybe yourself that I could hook up with (in game) to get some FC advice/recommendations/direction?

TDF :) Unabashed TDF promo pic :D

In the original post could you fix the typo in The Ditanian Fleet channel name, thanks!

Just a little question about this. Aside from Logistics 5, is it mandatory to have Shield Emission and Energy Emission skills at 5 as well, or will a T2 fit (and thus the skills at 4) suffice?

while you wait Goldiiee, what are good clearing times for VG/AS/HQ?

Are Machs only wanted as 1400mm snipers? I recently trained into one (first turret boat, I've been a missile pilot for some time) and have run a couple incursions with 800mm AC and 1400mm Arty fits, and I greatly preferred the AC fit. But all of the incursion channels I've found that list fits only include Arty fits for Machs. If I want to stay with short range dps turrets do I need to work towards a Vindicator instead? I only have Large Projectile Turrets to 3 so it would be quick to train large hybrids up to my current projectile skill level.

Before I begin, if I'm going to bump a recruitment thread, I would at least like to point out what a ridiculous notion it is that this is "not a recruitment thread"

shortened for expiedience

how are legions compared to all the shiny armor bs?

they don't show the big dps numbers in eft, but shouldn't they apply their damage much better to the smaller targets in vanguards?

Some vanguard groups missing from the list:
Union 0f Revolution Incursions (channel: U.o.R Inca)
State War Academy Incursions (channel: SWA Incursions)
Hunter's Brotherhood (channel: Hunter's Brotherhood)

First of all, thanks for making and maintaining thread, it is very informative.

Secondly, I have a question you can hopefully answer. Would I be able to find fleets wanting to take me in a T3 BC, even if it's just running Vanguards? Specifically, I have a T2 tanked, meta 4 gunned blaster Naga which I would be interested in getting into incursions with while I work my way up to a Rokh.

Just a quick suggestion: split the communities in the first post in shields and armor and then in training, training/advanced and advanced. It might make looking for communities a bit easier ;)

SWA Incursions and U.o.R Inca are both training groups and are working together.

Also, the Warp To Me Public Channel is Warp To Me Incursions. If you are doing the community classification, WTM is a relaxed shield community that runs all levels of sites. Thank you in advance for the (assumed) prompt update.

Been absent from the game awhile... Whats the current FOTM ships for Incursions?

Well, which one is more popular?

Thanks for your reply. I understand why some fleets are strict from a few standpoints. The fact, however, that some fleets are more inclusive points up to the possibility that this strictness is based on collecting ISK and LP time-efficiently. The strict fleets *could* include a few less perfectly equipped pilots - they just dont want to spend the extra 30 seconds that person adds to the time it takes for the fleet to complete the swarms.

What is the real difference between a Meta 4 weapon and T2 weapon? Not much.

What is the difference between the 55-70% resists you get with Meta 3 and 4 modules and the T2 modules? Not much.
What is the difference between DPS with T2 ammo and Faction ammo? a few percentage points = not much.

What is the difference between the effect of a pilot who has the skills for T2 equipment and ammo and one who has the skills for Meta 3/4 equipment? Again, marginal.
All these differences add up I suppose, but that's where leadership, if it is real leadership, makes up the difference.

What is the real difference between the strict exclusionary incursion fleets and the inclusive incursion fleets? Much. Attitude / Sociability. The general difference between the two basic categories of human beings : those who have a general regard for others, and those who don't.

It is understood that incursions are difficult and the risks are great (in some cases you cant warp out if the swarm is starting to blow ships up). But for high-sec space Vanguard level missions, the general attitude of exclusive incursion fleets cannot be based on some sort of technical necessity. Imo, and I am 3 months old and not know what I'm talking about = but I can do level 4 security missions alone without much problem. Can't see how my inclusion in a good fleet is really that big of a problem for others. If I don't contribute sufficiently, then don't include me in the next mission. And I'm speaking in the interest of the rest of the Eve Community that encounters these exclusivity attitudes and gets turned off by them.

Hey guys,

I recently reactivated my account. I'm interested in doing incursions (VG). Last time I did them I was 'advertising' my ship in BTL_Pub and that's how I got invited to fleets. Back then I was flying a Mach but I sold it. Right now I have about 450m with some more ISK coming in when I sell some stuff I have laying around, after which I'll have about 600-700m.
With this amount of ISK I won't be able to buy any Mach or NM, so I think a CS would be my best bet (I remember Sleipnir fleets being very effective in the sites that spawned a lot of frigs), but maybe there are other ships that are popular right now?

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Bananap0wn
These are my skills. I'm able to fly any CS with t2 guns and I can also use T2 large lasers and T2 large projectiles.

What do you guys think would the best ship I could fly with my budget and my skills - which ship would get me in a good fleet? (I'd rather not invest in any more logi skills)

Edited for brevity

Are Vanguard sites too dangerous to run solo? Like a AC Loki?

Well I just read all 10 pages :/

Just re-activated my account so thinking of giving Incursions a go. I tried it back in my old corp occasionally but think I'll concentrate on them a bit more this time round. I trained mainly Amarr and armour but have some shield skills as well, just don't have the right ships for shield tanking. I can be in a Paladin pretty quickly, just need to train Marauders.

What would be a good shield tank ship to aim for with my current skills? I'm assuming my worst problem is going to be training the guns after training whatever BS you suggest. http://eveboard.com/pilot/Tzarlena

EDIT: Nvm, think I've answered my own question. Nightmare it is then.

I wonder about minimal amount of ships to run these sites (not solo, but next tier ones) :
- for example: 3 rr tengus or 5 rr tengus or 5 rr navy scorpions
- would be unprofitable due to mechanics I guess, but might be interesting exercise in futility :)

I'm experienced wh(c5/c6)/null sec player. Incursions and militia are the only things, that I haven't done in EVE before. If I would like to try fight with those invaders, should I start with "normal" or some "advanced" fleets?


Which groups are truly active, in early EU TZ (UTC +2) ?

Reading this thread, I get the impression lasers are rather useless for incursions. I guess I picked the wrong race of ships and weapons to skill up as a new player.

I'm looking to make one of my characters a dedicated Incursion runner.

What is more likely to get into shield fleets faster? Vindicator or Scimi. Both assuming maxed skills.

hey guys,
for some reason i cannot get into "The Valhalla Project" channel. it says its not open to public or i may have been banned.
there is literally no reason i can think of i should be banned. i went in 3 fleets with them a year ago which went smoothly with no hassles and then havent spoken to them since. can anyone shed some light?

Hi there!

I've just finished training for a Scimitar T2 fit, and would like to learn how logis work on incursions, so that I could join a shield fleet in EUTZ, may anyone please give me a link where I could read about it? does anyone know if there're logi training fleets available?

Regards

in 1 or 2 weeks i finish my skills to fly and fit a rokh
until then i need to do some money

are there any possibilities i get in incursions with a drake?

Thank for the help Golfiiee, I'll read that article and try to adapt to a Scimitar.

Any idea of what implants suits best for a Logi character? I'll go for those that give me capacitor first, then... agility? any idea?

Hi thanks for your advice!

Could you suggest me a complete fitting? (Skills inly for T1 weapons)

Thank you very much

Would a paladin be excepted in incursion fleet?

Greetings.

I've a question. Is it possible for us FW people to join Incursion fleets? Do we impose any threats to logistics pilots if we are in the same fleet with you guys?

Goldiiee Thanks a lot for all the data on incursions, it goes a long way with beginners like me.

I think ppl already asked all i have to ask except for 2 things
1) can you go into detail on how fleets deal with ship loss? shiny and not shiny
2) i'm not 100% bilingual, that means i can speak and to a certain degree, but i don't have any problems listening or reading, will i have any problems with that if i join an enlighs speaking fleet?

Now the question: Do I have a chance to make it or will I get my ass handed to me 90%+ of the time?

I can fly Gallente and caldari ships proficiently, can some help me with a ship choice and a fit that i can start running incursions with. i have 250 mill to spend on this

Nice thread. Didn't bother reading through all the pages, but do you have a pub channel? Would like to have it if you do.

if some one were to be interested in running incursions, realistically what's the minimum sort of skills/ship fit would they need to be considered worth inviting to a fleet as a useful member not just some tag-along?

I am thinking megathron and rail guns i am not able to use t2 guns though and t2 damage mods are out as well

What sort of ISK / hour is feasible from incursions? I usually do PvE isk-farming with Dreadnought fleets for 200-300m / hour, how do incursions compare? I'm looking into them since Incursions are run around the clock, while capital pve fleets are only assembled at scheduled times, and might like to earn extra ISK if it would be feasible / worthwhile.

PS: No, I'm not joking about the dreads; they're nice to have when the rats have 190k ehp apiece and the site's incoming DPS can top 10k.

I did read the OP, but only saw "The ISK earning potential is high, so the list of people wanting to do it is long", nothing about the time efficiency.

Do vanguard incursions jam? Would it be worth it to fit ECCM on our two guardians instead of using sensor boosters?

I have the choice of either using the SNI as below with T2 Launchers or a Rokh with sub optimal gunnery skills (I always loved missiles vs guns in EvE) and only Meta4 guns with a noticably weaker tank:

The sensor compensation skills were added. Don't know if they make that much of a difference, but they do increase snesor strength. So maybe a ECCM mod would be feasible.

Would the above fit be right for an AS/HQ DPS boat?

You probably already wrote this somewhere so feel free to direct me to that post, but what is the ideal ship for incursions and what should I be looking at for fittings?

So Im not on the right character but.

Ive been looking at maybe running incursions for isk.
The only problem is that the pilot can only fly a tengu (Pretty well)
Are there any incursion corps that will have tengu's in there fleets?
Also I tried joining ICU public and the TVP channels because you said they still use T3's but I couldnt join either channel.
Im looking for more EU based TZ's btw.

Edit: Also theres doesnt seem to be many incursion corps? Whys that?

Rokh

I was in the ISN Secondary channel today and they were acting like elitist ****** to the guys who were asking any questions at all. They actually need to learn from you. Peeps there take it like their second job or something. Anyways, keep up the good work, Goldiee!

Bumped, just in case.

Why are there so many shield channels? There used to just be BTL Pub which was huge like 300 people now it seems really decentralized.

Also, is the new Navy Harbinger any good for armor or shield VGs?

BTL Pub wasn't like that when I briefly used it and Ditanian Fleet hasn't really changed much since I last used it.

I'm asking why there isn't a centralized shield version of DF.

I noticed on the Scimitar fits listed back on page 5 that T2 armor repair drones we listed. Was that a typo since the Scimitar only gets a bonus to shield maintenance bots or are they carried for some other reason.

To actually fly the ship? I just need to train Caldari BS. I have all the skills for Tachyon IIs as well as AWU V. However I have very few SP in shields, pretty much just Shield Management at IV for the extra EHP. Everything else is sitting at like II or III, I don't have the shield compensation skills trained at all nor Tactical Shield Manipulation IV for Invuln IIs.

Try TDI for armor fleets.

For armor fleets you need the armor and skirmish gang links, booster mostly get a tip by the other fleet members if you help out a random fleet, but don't expect more than 30-40M per hour, since many people forget to give the booster a share when they leave. On the bright side, you can do it afk and play with another account in the meantime or do as I do and read some forums.
While T3 boosters are still better, many people will not dismiss a CS if you add all the skirmish links they need as a bonus.

Oneiros and Guardian are still in high demand, if you can fly both and got both hulls in the incursion you are very flexible and can chose what the FC wants, just start with vanguards and do bigger sites once you are fluid with the watch list, player changes, commands and RR use.

I recently started training toward incrusions. To have a better chance of getting into a fleet, should I first focus on sniper fits or DPS fits? Also anyone have links to Amarr BS fits that I should aim toward?

Edit: NVM about fittings. Found this site: http://www.tdf-theditanianfleet.org/

May be linking the appropriate community's website in the original post will help people.

I have a question on this topic.

Is there any need for pimped logistics? Would that be appreciated in any way? Basically the only thing to pimp out is the tank anyway, and from what I know, the need for pimp on basis is rather non-existent (apart from a T2 rig to get the PG for 5/1 iirc). How about it, and the other logistic ships?

As an example, the only decently pimped logistic I've found so far: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/63791-Genolution-Incursion-Basilisk.html

PS: In your FC Guide nor in your Fitting Guide do I see a mention of high influence, but then again that might require a little too much explaining that can just be done in channel.

Hi guys,

Incursions just got my intrest and what ship can you recommend?

I fly now a drake but for incursions I need a battleship.

I was thinking about:

Rokh
Megathron
Or Hyperion

What one is the best, less skill intensive?

And some common tips and tricks?

THough about trying with a missile ship but they really seem to be disliked. May I ask what VVV means?

Looking to try something new; is anyone willing to take a look at my character and give me an idea of how to train and a rough timeline until a FC would find me relevant? Obviously, I have limited experience with BS size ships.

edit: I'm willing to train towards Logi as well if that is a high-demand role for Incursions.
edit2: Looks like I'm not THAT far away from being able to fly a Scimitar decently (18d); are these used in enough Incursion fleets to make it worth training into?

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Eida_La

Warp to Me Incursions has a homepage (soonGäó to include forums!) at Warptome.com

So, what is THE ship for running VGs?

It's been a long time since I did any incursions so I am wondering if my Nightmare fit is still accepted or if I need to change it before trying to join groups again.

I used to do incursions pre and post missile nerf flying nothing but a Tengu. Pre nerf, it was a decent sniper ship. Post nerf it was a decent close/med range DPS ship using the fit I came up with (1000+DPS).

The problem was that it required +6% implants and most casual incursion runners wouldnt use them. The result was people bringing sub-par Tengu fits that would become a drag to the fleet.

In case anyone is interested in the fit that I used, here it is.

[Tengu, Incursions - DPS HAMS (Passive)]

6x Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II (Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile)

Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Pithum A-Type Explosive Deflection Amplifier
2x Pithum A-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Pithum A-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier
1x Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner

4x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

21,600x Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
5,700x Scourge Javelin Heavy Assault Missile

As you can see, this has plenty of tank with excellent resists (at least 80% accross the board with fleet boosts) and best of all.... its all passive (meaning that even when I'm nueted by the Outunis, Deltrolls and Niarjas), I still retain my tank.

Oh they are still quite active, of course it also depends on which time zone you are looking at them in.

There is alot of activity in the EU timezone.

Hey Goldie

Armor Shiny Incursion was open in response to the disbanding of Born Ara Mob. Many of the old pilots and Fleet commanders joined ASI that are more for the leaner tank and higher DPS like in the old days.
Armor Shiny incursion has a public channel: ASI GÇô Pub
current ships being accepted
Navy Battleship
Pirate Faction Battleship
Oneiros (prefer Logi 5)

The MOTD in the public channel does list mail groups to obtain fitting info.
If you wish to see us here is a vid of us running a few sites. ASI First Run

We are still growing. If you are capable of flying any of the fits listed your welcome to join us when we get a fleet rolling to see how we work. Plus we are still maintaining the old rule Born-Ara Mob ran with "we will not Ban you for flying with other communities."

Did my first incursions yesterday so not experienced in this regard. However when looking at fits I noticed that shield transfer implants are unnaturally cheap. A 3% one was less than 1 mil and with logi 5 it seems to be all thats needed for cap stability in non-pimp scimi with 4 links (Lv6 standard entry fit)

4x large shield transfer ii
1x invul ii 4x tracking link ii
1x dcu ii 3x cap power relay ii
T2 power and cap regen rigs
4x t2 med and 1xt2 light shield drone

Thats approx 200 mil altogether.

Now as far as i understand they ask for 6 min 30 sec cap life with everything on but with less than 1mil and giving up slot 8 one can have cap stability without faction for that logi. I was also surprised to see the price of faction tracking links. Hell scimi would be quite worth to be suicided evev with only 2 faction links. If you get one which is not moving its quite possible to alpha it for the price of one faction tracking link.

This is only a good plan when you are running with a very light logi load and poor./no boosts, or terribad fleet comp. The two types of ships which jam are quite squishy and if anyone has the standard 6 gun incursion arty loki (which is has recently been dethroned as king of the DDD ball by vindi's getting ReSeBos bu thats another story....) then the frigate sized ones should be alpha'd off the grid.

Just came back from a super long hiatus (I feel like a complete noob again) and incursions sound interesting, but after reading 14 pages of this my eyes are starting to cross lol.


I gathered that my missile skills are next to useless, so I'll probably start training for guns, but I would love some direction as to which guns to shoot for and which ship to shoot for specifically.

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Caelestina


Also, I am looking to join a relaxed, fun corp...preferably that does a mix of everything (I have a mining/industry alt)...do any of these incursion groups recruit to their corps or are they strictly just public "training" and the such?


Thanks! :)

is the loki used still and what teams are using them so i can join in and try some of this incursion stuff
also if someone has a a fit that would be good
thanks

is the loki used still and what teams are using them so i can join in and try some of this incursion stuff
also if someone has a a fit that would be good
thanks

1) Most chanells you have provided in the intial post are not public so how to joint them?

The Marauder changes are now on Sisi. I urge all groups that use Marauders in Incursions to get the new iteration (653 MB) loaded asap and start getting groups together to test running inc's on Sisi.

There is a very small window for feedback, and if you have any interest in using these ships in incursions in the future, make you voice heard.

Ok, so since I haven't had much luck running my own private fleets, and my computer cant quite handle 11 accounts loaded at once....Im searching for a community or group that I can run a hand full of my alts (via multiboxing) for Vanguard sites. I have up to 8 DPS pilots available at the moment. I can fly logi too...but its much easier and efficient for me to just focus on DPS. Online now and looking to run sites regularly. Please either convo me or eve mail me with any suggestions. Thanks!

may i suggest joining the mailing lists?

I though he was Lv6 SRP and just refused to give up accumulated 30bil to another pilot. If it's true it's hardly a theft.

At least at DIN every FC with Hands on to the DIN-SRP has multiple times more isk than the SRP has and will have in wallet.
Don't know why other communities give poor FCs access to the srp wallet.
DIN uses a Corporation with currently 4 FCs having alt toons in it. Every FC in that Corporation has way over 300 Billion in ISK, the most of them much more, so there is no reason for us to steal change money from the SRP.

A side note to Goldiiee, you cannot plan or missplan a disconnecting logistic or whatever can happen through the Internet. Our SRP covers losses only if the victim didn't made a mistake i.e. not broadcasting.

So, SRP yes or no? It's up to the Pilot in DIN-Fleets. We dont force the Pilots to pay it. It is completely optional plus we have 3 different insurances, depending on deposit.

Ingame Mailinglist: dinsrp for further Information.

Do strategic cruisers (Legion/Loki) still have a role in high-end incursions or are advanced battleships(Paladin, Bhaal, Krono, Vindi, Mach, Nightmare) the only viable ships in town?

This seems like as good a thread as any.

Why are incursions runners acting like grade schoolers on the playground?

Is their any group that focuses on lowsec incursions?

How often do projectile or hybrid ships need to restock ammo ?

How many jumps away do pilots typically need to fly to buy more ammo ?

Do they move the ammo in their BS, or do they make two trips from one incursion site to another, one to move their BS, the other to move their hauler ?


At the moment I'm thinking of flying a Nightmare as it has enough cargo space to carry a shuttle, allowing me to use that shuttle on ammo runs. But, if ammo runs are convenient enough, that means I'll consider projectile and hybrid ships.

Hello i'm reading trough the thread , but have a few questions sorry if they were asked , prbably they were but im still reading , maybe meanwhile someone can point me right into the right direction :)

I want to try incursions , i'm a good legion Pilot , afaik they're good for vanguards .
Where should i start ? Which channel ? Who would accept a legion pilot .
Would like to get into some of these communities , but there are plenty , would like to avoid drama and useless problems . Also would like a trustworthy group .

thank you in advance .

edit : I can fly also a Nightmare , but it needs polishing , i can fit it well . Just need some more skills to be perfect .

As a complete newbie to incursions and what they involve, I have a perhaps nebulous question. Provided you fit correctly and fly to your FCs orders, how dangerous are they?

Hi there!

I'm trying to create an Spanish Speaking Incursion Fleet, as in my corp we've grown recently and there seems to be a unified purpose of bashing the Shansa and making isk at the same time

If you're interested, we'd like to form fleet at 21:00 eve time regularly (as most of us play in EU TZ) till 23:00 eve time, but we'll extend the time as we grow in people (and TZ) and coordinate ourselves.

Please contact me in-game and/or join the in-game channel IncursionES.

We've not yet decided about shields or armor, but we'd like to adhere to an stablished incursion community that would like to accept us, as a semi-independen fleet, with its own FC's but following their rules. We'll learn and teach that community's policies and fittings too. Suggestions are welcome, we're eager to learn and grow.

This week we'll start with a training fleet for new players, and then we'll decide if we go armor or shields (maybe both), after talking with some FC's of know communities and interested people.

Regards

im new to incursion currently looking for a newbie friendly group and can play after DT

i can use Nightmare with T2 gun any help ?, thanks all.

First of all, thanks a million for this thread Goldiiee, very informative and helpful! I'm definitely going to be signing into most of those chat channels in future! My question is, you've recommended BS with T2 guns for the starter player, I myself am new but I'm currently training for a T2 Fitted Phantasm. Is this "viable" as such? Am I harming my chances of being picked up by FCs because I'm using a Pirate cruiser rather than a BS or faction/pirate BS.


EDIT: I've been told this website is massively out of date, could anyone advise on what I should do from here? http://incursions.nexsoft.de/?mode=fit&id=64


Fit, for reference.

Take care!

Hey,
i wonder if any of you could help me with the choice: i am looking for the best option to train into for getting into incursions one day, but till then getting lvl 4 runner
i have read all of this thread, yes all of it and i got the idea that i should aim for pirate ships. but which one? and what would be my second choice if/when they get nerfed someday?
i am new to this game, started as caldari. and if i would have some solid goal i could start training towards it and at the same time earning isk on that lvl 4 runner which preferably is on the way to one of those pirate ships

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Ideafix_Ergel

take a look please, it takes so much less time for ppl who knows stuff then for me, who has no idea atm

Does anyone know what happend to Lv6?

Hey,
A friend and I wanted to try incursions and we were wondering if there was a French community? We are also comfortable with English but I prefer to ask in case.

I have a vindicator and my friend a Rokh. According to these two ship, we should start with which community to "learn" about the incursion?

ps: and I wanted to know where we could find good build for our ships?

Forsaken Su-un created new site for TVP - there is some useful information and fits. Could be wonderful to see this link in the top post. Thanks, Goldiiee!

Yea, no access at the moment so I thought I would ask here...haha um

Update: UOR channel name has changed to UOR VG.

I am starting work on a explicitly training shield Vg community, which will take things as low skill as t2 tanked BCs.

Hi to the Incursion community o/.

A thanks to CV and PV for directing me to this thread and sending me a mail with a link to many ingame channels to join etc.

I have to say i do feel a little like this community is for elitests (i do hope i'm truly wrong?).

I mean i'm 80m sp, predomantly caldari, fully trained in shield//missile skills and i feel i would have no place in any incursion fleets as to me it seems to be all armor fleets and everything else sucks! (Don't get me wrong, i've never flown incursions so that may well be the case!)

So to try fit in and enter this incursion world and community i have decided to for the 1st time in 6//7 years of playing (on and off!) to train guns and armor skills and finally ANOTHER RACE! (which i know will benifit me too!). While reading this thread over and learning what i can about incursions.

I just hope by the time i train for t2 large guns and get the ships BS race to 5 that this community is still going strong !

the reason i said NMis cos i already have caldari bs 5 so just amarr bs and large guns req, where as the others require gal//minm bs

Hi guys.

I'm wondering about how about skills in incursions.I want to do inc. but i'm not sure about my skills .For example i'm usin maelstorm and doing soe level 4 missions. I cant use t2 guns i got total 4 m skill cap.

So what is the minimum skill level or points or skills for inc ?

I have been out of eve for a long time, but when I left the ship of choice for blitzing Incursions was the Legion.
I think this was for assault sights, but I cant really remember.

Are there still groups that run this sort of fleet? If not what is the best way to go and are there any good groups to join up with?

I can fly everything sub cap near maxed out. I dont mind spending the isk getting a pimp ship if it means I can get fleets often.

Thanks

Have only read half the thread so far, sorry if has been discussed before;

Would a Vargur have a chance at getting into a fleet?

If so, is Marauders V skill expected?

So far I have not found much info about Vargur's and Incursions.

Regards,

So here I am:

Looking to get into Incursions, since that is one of the last things I haven't done before in this game.

This toon is "pure caldari" and has some amazing skills for shields/missiles and the ships using them.

However, as I understand missiles ships are not preferred because of the delayed damage.

Is there a possibility for me to join anyway? Also I would really be looking for a EU TZ Incursion...

One time bump to fix forum.

Looks like we needed a Bump.
So here are the numbers for minimum resists and the tank it provides with Logi(s).

70% Pre OGB Resists, w/Siege OGB
2 Scimi's VG 4,784dps
4 Scimi's AS 9,489dps
6 Scimi's HQ 14,195dps

70% Resists no/OGB
2 Scimi's 3,127dps
4 Scimi's 6,284dps
6 Scimi's 9,396dps

60% Pre OGB Resists, w/Siege OGB
2 Scimi's 3,124dps
4 Scimi's 6,238dps
8 Scimi's 9,331dps

60% Resists no/OGB
2 Scimi's 2,032dps
4 Scimi's 4,025dps
6 Scimi's 6,018dps

T2 sentries, T2 armor & shield skills, Gallente BS 4, Caldari BS 3, No other tech 2 weapon skills besides drones.

Flying an Ishtar right now in level 4 missions... anybody doing incursions with Assault Frigates, or Heavy assault ships?

I saw it mentioned several times in this thread, but what does "contesting" a site mean exactly.

Hi,

Firstly, thanks for all the info you guys have provided, it's been a great help.

Secondly, I'd like to try out a few incursions but I've never done it before.

I'm willing to work from the ground up as it would be a challenge to learn something new on this scale.

Can anyone point me in the direction of a english speaking, EU tz fleets, and training provider please?

Once again thanks for all the info.

Is this fit viable after Kronos drones changes hit live ?

[Dominix Navy Issue, Incursion]

''Fit Clipped out''.

Hey, could you add my Incursions in please? I founded RsRm Incursions and FC shield vanguards weekly, my channel is 'RsRm Incursions'. Thanks!

Hey man, why is TIG in armor section? :D

We use both shield and armor at the same time, and we are more in tune with shields since we usually have more shield ship and we started as shield pirate fleet :D

It might be good to also point out the Sorionuk and a few other older FC's have put together a public IIC armor community.

I fc for OIC from time to time so you are more than welcome

@Gold the channel name i think is "IIC public" they are an armor VG blitz fleet i think, forms usually just after DT. But if you are in the current inc Chardu just watch the incursion channel. Sorionuk is a very experienced fc. I believe he fcd the first ever mothership site. Certainly worth looking into, he uses mumble and eve voice.

First of all, thank you very much Goldiiee for creating this topic. I'm completely new to Incursions and I'm finding it greatly helpful.

Now, I wanted to ask some things I'd be very grateful to have answered.

So, I have high skills and, following my corpmates' advice, decided to try out with TVP. I just finished training T2 artilleries and fit a Maelstrom as they recommend on their mailing list. I am ready in that sense, but also a bit lost on some things.

1.- Let's say I get an afternoon with spare hours to play. Time has come to join a TVP fleet and bring my ship. Now: how can I know in what Incursion area are they? I guess TVP in particular is Empire focused, but what constellation? Do large Incursion groups have fleets in several constellations simultaneously, or do they stick to a single one?

2.- Once I'm nearby, how to contact them? I'd like to talk with one of their FC's or trainers and present myself as a newbie, to get some advice focused on their group. The thing is that their webpage is... no longer there. In fact, the link provided in the OP, which is the same one provided by TVP in their mailing lists, leads only to an advertising webpage. They even had a Newbie Guide, but leads to the same webpage. So I don't know who to contact or any other advice they might had have. What do you recommend me?

3.- Once in a fleet and going, what can be expected from a newbie in a Sniper role? Just follow FC orders, shoot the tags and broadcast for shields? I ask this because there's a lot of abreviations for JJJ, MTAC... that are starting to make my head hurt a bit.

Thank you very much in advance!

EDIT: just found TVP's new webpage: link. For if you want to add it to the OP :)

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perfect .. thanks. I will pick one of those 3 DPS ships and sort out which one makes me feel good inside.

i can see that regardless of what i fly and how i fly it and with whom, it will all take time to build up the player skills, and the personal relationships until at such a point it all runs smoothly, and there is going to be no way to force either to happen more quickly.

I guess i should also come up with a good plan for what to do when i doesnt look like an incursion is going to happen that night for whatever reason.

I forgot to ask one thing though .

My timezone AST (GMT -4) seems to fall into a limbo land between late Euro / UK and Early NA.. always seems that fleets and such are either winding down or just done when i log in, and new ones forming or merely being planned as i am having to log off. I am usually on at 01:00-03:00 roughly .. is there an equivelant lull in Inc running at that time of day/night .. or could that work in my favour with there being a few less people on with which to fight over spots .. I am going to answer a little bit of my own question by saying it probably depends on the group and there is no way to really know until i get in a channel for a few weeks and see how it goes .. but thought id ask anyhow .. as sometimes what people know amazes you.

thanks again for taking time to write up such a detailed answer.