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Egravant Alduin Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.02.19 11:29:00 - [1] - Quote Hi guys, I'm having my 4th battlecruiser since I lost 3 and I think i like it (2nd hurricane lol) and I would like to ask some things so i can get involved in pvp. Does PVP have looting ? What do I win by killing someone? I read that placing a bounty in someone is stupid since he can be in a small worthless ship and someone kill him and get the bounty.Is it true? Can I attack someone with a yellow or red skull that blinks in high security?Will concord kill me? Where can I pvp since whenever i went in 0.4 in a lot of systems i died cause of factional warfare I want to solo .Is it possible or I always must be in a corp? Is PVP fun and worth it?(i died sometimes when someone attacked me when i was very new to eve and it was fun) Are there specific areas that I can pvp or I will always find some really big ships that I won't be able to scratch them? *Can I salvage opponents wreck? Thank you
Garviel Tarrant Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 564	Posted - 2013.02.19 12:40:00 - [2] - Quote Egravant Alduin wrote: Hi guys, I'm having my 4th battlecruiser since I lost 3 and I think i like it (2nd hurricane lol) and I would like to ask some things so i can get involved in pvp. Does PVP have looting ? Yes* What do I win by killing someone? 15 cool points* I read that placing a bounty in someone is stupid since he can be in a small worthless ship and someone kill him and get the bounty.Is it true? No Can I attack someone with a yellow or red skull that blinks in high security?Will concord kill me? In high sec, yes. Where can I pvp since whenever i went in 0.4 in a lot of systems i died cause of factional warfare Join FW or RVB* I want to solo .Is it possible or I always must be in a corp? Solo is more fun when you're in a corp, unless you really really hate people. Also joining a corp with good players is the best way to learn* Is PVP fun and worth it?(i died sometimes when someone attacked me when i was very new to eve and it was fun) Its why we are here* Are there specific areas that I can pvp or I will always find some really big ships that I won't be able to scratch them? Don't understand this question* Can I salvage opponents wreck? Yes, t2 salvage is delicious* Thank you Beyond Divinity Recruitment is open!
Disastro Wrecking Shots Black Legion. 55	Posted - 2013.02.19 12:43:00 - [3] - Quote Egravant Alduin wrote: Hi guys, I'm having my 4th battlecruiser since I lost 3 and I think i like it (2nd hurricane lol) and I would like to ask some things so i can get involved in pvp. Does PVP have looting ? What do I win by killing someone? I read that placing a bounty in someone is stupid since he can be in a small worthless ship and someone kill him and get the bounty.Is it true? Can I attack someone with a yellow or red skull that blinks in high security?Will concord kill me? Where can I pvp since whenever i went in 0.4 in a lot of systems i died cause of factional warfare I want to solo .Is it possible or I always must be in a corp? Is PVP fun and worth it?(i died sometimes when someone attacked me when i was very new to eve and it was fun) Are there specific areas that I can pvp or I will always find some really big ships that I won't be able to scratch them? *Can I salvage opponents wreck? Thank you If you blow up someones ship, the wreck sits there with some of the modules still in it, for anyone to loot. Whoever grabs it first is going to get the items in the wreck. In high sec you cannot just shoot anyone with a low security status. Concord will defend them. If someone is below certain security status they are attackle in some systems. This depends upon the secrurity status of the system you are in. In a 1.0 starter system folks with a security status of below negatve 2 are attackable i believe. You can also attack anyone who is at war with your corporation in high sec. Solo PVP is possible. I personally would recommend you join a corp and pvp in groups before attempting to do so. Jumping into solo pvp first will likely result in you just getting steamrolled by the inhabitants of low sec/null sec. PVP is fun. It is the only thing worth doing in this game IMO. While i understand the need to carebear... carebearing is only a means to an end. It is not the end itself. Making money just to make money is kind of pointless in a game that is centered around PVP. Wrecks can be salvaged.
Egravant Alduin Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.02.19 13:41:00 - [4] - Quote Great answers. What about his? *Where can I pvp since whenever i went in 0.4 in a lot of systems i died cause of factional warfare I don'w want to join a corp a like to solo and pvp alone
Garviel Tarrant Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 565	Posted - 2013.02.19 13:45:00 - [5] - Quote Egravant Alduin wrote: Great answers. What about his? *Where can I pvp since whenever i went in 0.4 in a lot of systems i died cause of factional warfare I don'w want to join a corp a like to solo and pvp alone You can be in a corp and still pvp alone. But if you can join FW without joining a corp If you dont' want that ether just fit a ship go to lowsec/0.0 and shoot stuff. Beyond Divinity Recruitment is open!
Egravant Alduin Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.02.19 13:48:00 - [6] - Quote Garviel Tarrant wrote: Egravant Alduin wrote: Great answers. What about his? *Where can I pvp since whenever i went in 0.4 in a lot of systems i died cause of factional warfare I don'w want to join a corp a like to solo and pvp alone You can be in a corp and still pvp alone. But if you can join FW without joining a corp If you dont' want that ether just fit a ship go to lowsec/0.0 and shoot stuff. I can only pvp in 0.0?I don't get it.
Garviel Tarrant Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 566	Posted - 2013.02.19 15:25:00 - [7] - Quote Egravant Alduin wrote: Garviel Tarrant wrote: Egravant Alduin wrote: Great answers. What about his? *Where can I pvp since whenever i went in 0.4 in a lot of systems i died cause of factional warfare I don'w want to join a corp a like to solo and pvp alone You can be in a corp and still pvp alone. But if you can join FW without joining a corp If you dont' want that ether just fit a ship go to lowsec/0.0 and shoot stuff. I can only pvp in 0.0?I don't get it. Or low sec Unless you want to do high sec war decs, but thats terrible. Beyond Divinity Recruitment is open!
Machiavelli's Nemesis Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide. 105	Posted - 2013.02.19 19:40:00 - [8] - Quote Steps to successful PvP. Step 1: crush up some pro plus tablets and snort them Step 2: wait 10 minutes, have a cup of tea or something Step 3: duct tape a wellington boot to your forehead Step 4: strap some blasters onto a thorax or something Step 5: charge headfirst at the first ship you see bellowing incomprehensible oaths involving unicorns. It's always worked for me :)
Taoist Dragon Bastion of Mad Behaviour 260	Posted - 2013.02.19 22:40:00 - [9] - Quote Egravant Alduin wrote: Great answers. What about his? *Where can I pvp since whenever i went in 0.4 in a lot of systems i died cause of factional warfare I don'w want to join a corp a like to solo and pvp alone Joining a corp is not needed. But there are many corps out there that are solo corps. Tuskers, Black Dragon Fighting Society, Mine etc that are together just for an area to chat and exchange ideas fits and tactics. Most of the time the people in these corps are scattered all over the galaxy just blowing stuff up. You are best off finding one of these corps at first purely for the information they can give you around solo pvp you don't actually have to fly with any of them and they won't pressure you too either. That is the Way, the Tao. Balance is everything. I'm NOT a Pirate! I'm a privateer!
Donte FUKCYOU University of Caille Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.02.20 09:39:00 - [10] - Quote Egravant Alduin wrote: Garviel Tarrant wrote: Egravant Alduin wrote: Great answers. What about his? Where can I pvp since whenever i went in 0.4 in a lot of systems i died cause of factional warfare I don'w want to join a corp a like to solo and pvp alone You can be in a corp and still pvp alone. But if you can join FW without joining a corp If you dont' want that ether just fit a ship go to lowsec/0.0 and shoot stuff. I can only pvp in 0.0?I don't get it. You can PvP anywhere. If you want to get into lowsec solo PvP (which you should), watch some tutorials on how to use the DIRECTIONAL SCANNER (DScan) on your ship to find players in a system. Practice this in highsec-systems until you think you're good enough (just the scanning, not the shooting ;) ). Here's what you do: - Check your starmap for lowsec systems that are not too crowded (you don't want to share a system with a roaming gang of assholes). - Jump to that system -Create a safespot (drain your capacitor until it's completely empty and quickly warp to a target 10AU+ away, you will not warp all the way and get stuck in the middle of nowhere, this is your safespot now). -Use this safespot to calmy start scanning the system, you may have to create several such safespots (SS) depending on the size of the system. -If you find a target at a position you can warp to (someone ratting in a belt maybe?), decide whether or not you can take it (maybe don't try to hit a strategic cruiser in your frig or something). -Warp to your prey and kill it dead! / Die yourself -Repeat Oh, yes: Keep an eye on the local chat. THIS IS IMPORTANT. Someone bad might jump in on your system and, depending on how good he is, can scan you down within seconds, even in your SS. If you suspect someone is trying to scan oyu down, don't panic. Frequently do a 360-¦ scan on your DScan (set your overview to show probes) to see if anyone has combat probes deployed. If you see combat probes on the DScan, get the *** out of there. Is your overview properly set up?
monkfish2345 State Protectorate Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.02.20 14:57:00 - [11] - Quote Best advice i can give is as a new pilot the main thing your going to need to achieve much in PVP is friends. so join a pvp corp. Second thing to do is start out small, flying a half skilled cane is never a great option. your far more likely to do well if you fly a well skilled af or inty. you will have more opportunity to survive longer and probably be more useful to a gang. Also EVE is complicated.. take some time to learn the game mechanics a bit (as an example i didn't PVP for my first year of EVE) knowing what you are fighitng and if you can fight it, is probably 60 - 70% of the battle. quality of pilot and fitting will do the rest. Finally don't go into PVP looking at it as a profession. You will always need another way to provide you with isk to keep ships in your hanger. PVP rarely results in profit long term. monk.
Donte FUKCYOU University of Caille Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.02.20 15:30:00 - [12] - Quote As a great fighter pilot (who happens to be me) said: "There's no skill involved in the fighting itself, only in the preparation."
Egravant Alduin Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.02.21 09:55:00 - [13] - Quote Guys you are very helpful and i learn a lot from you.Thank you.Yesterday i tried to enter a 0.4 system for a mission and 2 pirates were there.They couldn't harm me since i had halcyon's stabilizer equiped and my cane tanking did well so i left and went to continue my mission.After some minutes while i was doing my mission 6 ships came near me (with the two previously mentioned)and killed me.So is this pvp?6 vs 1?Probably they found me by scanning correct?
Sean Parisi Fugutive Task Force 184	Posted - 2013.02.21 10:16:00 - [14] - Quote Egravant Alduin wrote: Guys you are very helpful and i learn a lot from you.Thank you.Yesterday i tried to enter a 0.4 system for a mission and 2 pirates were there.They couldn't harm me since i had halcyon's stabilizer equiped and my cane tanking did well so i left and went to continue my mission.After some minutes while i was doing my mission 6 ships came near me (with the two previously mentioned)and killed me.So is this pvp?6 vs 1?Probably they found me by scanning correct? Learn how to use short range scan and people will cease to sneak up on you.
Donte FUKCYOU University of Caille Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2013.02.21 11:33:00 - [15] - Quote Egravant Alduin wrote: Guys you are very helpful and i learn a lot from you.Thank you.Yesterday i tried to enter a 0.4 system for a mission and 2 pirates were there.They couldn't harm me since i had halcyon's stabilizer equiped and my cane tanking did well so i left and went to continue my mission.After some minutes while i was doing my mission 6 ships came near me (with the two previously mentioned)and killed me.So is this pvp?6 vs 1?Probably they found me by scanning correct? That's EVE-PvP alright. :D It's almost never fair. Aaaand it was entirely your fault for thinking they would let you go. ;) They scanned you down with combat probes. You should have your DScan open at all times in a hostile 0.4 and scan every few seconds for probes. So either: - Be sure you can take on someone before attacking him or being attacked by him (and his 3 friends). - Or realize you would not survive a fight and make sure they can't find you. There are many guides for survival in lowsec, read them. You need to be able to: 1. Keep local chat in mind 2. Set up your overview properly 3. Know aggression mechanics 4. Be able to use the DScan for offense AND defense 5. Know when and where you are vulnerable in space (answer: everywhere and always)
Savlena Torilles Caldari Provisions Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.02.21 11:50:00 - [16] - Quote Egravant Alduin wrote: Guys you are very helpful and i learn a lot from you.Thank you.Yesterday i tried to enter a 0.4 system for a mission and 2 pirates were there.They couldn't harm me since i had halcyon's stabilizer equiped and my cane tanking did well so i left and went to continue my mission.After some minutes while i was doing my mission 6 ships came near me (with the two previously mentioned)and killed me.So is this pvp?6 vs 1?Probably they found me by scanning correct? I wouldn't call this pvp, not because it was 6 against 1 but rather because you wheren't prepared to be pvping. A PVE (Missioning) fitted ship is most of the times not viable when engaging other players. As earlier mentioned, if you want to learn how to solo pvp, startoff in something smaller than a battlecruiser. Use a Merlin, Incursus or some other frigs, maybe a destroyer. Unless you have ALOT of isk to spare you will burn your self out very quick using ships you can't afford to lose. I'd recommend checking out Kil2's youtube channel at http://www.youtube.com/user/jampyzero?feature=watch You can learn alot from his streams. Also check out Garmon's Eve is Easy channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/eveiseasy Dont get fooled by the name "EveisEasy", Eve is not easy, its a very complex game and demands alot from the player especially when it comes to PVP! Good luck!
Destru Kaneda CTRL-Q Iron Oxide. 185	Posted - 2013.02.21 14:02:00 - [17] - Quote How I approached learning how to solo: 1) Build 100 various cookiecutter frigs 2) Black frog them to lowsec 3) Engage everything 4) Learn from mistakes, to control the rush, what your fits can do, how ships are usually fit (and how to beat them) 5) Keep it up until you can fairly reliably win 1v1s Repeat 1-5 through all the ship ranks. Music for robots, geeks, hackers, and nerds. Nerdiest homepage on the internet?
Garviel Tarrant Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 574	Posted - 2013.02.21 14:22:00 - [18] - Quote Destru Kaneda wrote: How I approached learning how to solo: 1) Build 100 various cookiecutter frigs 2) Black frog them to lowsec 3) Engage everything 4) Learn from mistakes, to control the rush, what your fits can do, how ships are usually fit (and how to beat them) 5) Keep it up until you can fairly reliably win 1v1s Repeat 1-5 through all the ship ranks. **** that, just redfrog them to a high sec border system and pick them up one at a time when you die. Way cheaper. Beyond Divinity Recruitment is open!
Zoe Panala Blobcats 106	Posted - 2013.02.21 14:54:00 - [19] - Quote monkfish2345 wrote: Best advice i can give is as a new pilot the main thing your going to need to achieve much in PVP is friends. so join a pvp corp. ... You will always need another way to provide you with isk to keep ships in your hanger. PVP rarely results in profit long term. monk. If you don't need 23 pilots to kill a Rifter, you don't have to divide the loot between 23 players. You can always hunt people who doesn't really want to fight you, billions of ISK in loot in a few days is entirely possible. Also the more people you have , the bigger chance to scare away the target. Don't let them convince you to join their boring fleets and have 1/100th of the fights you could by just going out and kill stuff
Andracin Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 60	Posted - 2013.02.22 04:59:00 - [20] - Quote Definitly join a corp. When your new, even if you think your set up is good, it's not. Infact your probably fail fit and think your good cause it works in lvl 2 missions or ratting in .5 systems. Even some of the noobier of the FW corps can atleast give you less-fail fits and piloting advice. Also there is nothing like flying drunk in a small fleet listening to your fc call out targets over heavy metal playing in the back ground. MMO's are multi-player for a reason, even if you spend most your time alone. Like a couple other people said, use frigates or dessies. Your going to die alot so unless your just indepenently wealthy and can sell lots of PLEX running through hurricanes at the rate you will as a new pvp'r would make even some vets' wallets flinch.
monkfish2345 State Protectorate Caldari State 2	Posted - 2013.02.22 16:34:00 - [21] - Quote Zoe Panala wrote: monkfish2345 wrote: Best advice i can give is as a new pilot the main thing your going to need to achieve much in PVP is friends. so join a pvp corp. ... You will always need another way to provide you with isk to keep ships in your hanger. PVP rarely results in profit long term. monk. If you don't need 23 pilots to kill a Rifter, you don't have to divide the loot between 23 players. You can always hunt people who doesn't really want to fight you, billions of ISK in loot in a few days is entirely possible. Also the more people you have , the bigger chance to scare away the target. Don't let them convince you to join their boring fleets and have 1/100th of the fights you could by just going out and kill stuff the problem with that is that solo PVP is not exactly what i'd describe as a viable venture for a new player. As people have repeatedly said the first step is getting experience, you will learn little from zerging ships relentlessly into low or null sec. that said there are options. joining a corp does not specifically mean become a part of some massive death blob. As an example there is FW, while many people snub it, the standard of PVP here is a little less brutal generally and can be a good place to learn. RvB is another setup which is very new player friendly when it comes to PVP due to their persuasion to fly smaller ships where possible. As well as things like this, even joining a PVE corp will put you amongst players that can help you learn how EVE works on the whole. Right now Egravant I think it's fair to say your knowledge is pretty limited, having people who can explain all the intricacies of EVE will make you more aware of why what you are doing now isn;t working and what you need to change. As well as Kil2's & Garmons links i'd say check out Kil2's podcasts, and get a fitting tool so you can experiment with how you can make your ships work better. (EFT of Pyfa are the most popular). A secondary guide for fittings you can use is look up the killmails of players considered to be good at PVP, you will often find somewhere along the way they have used a ship you want to try, and learning from their fittings can be very useful. Drop me a mail in game sometime if you like and I can probably take some time to help you out. Main thing to remember, EVE is complex, and knowledge is power.
Egravant Alduin Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.02.25 11:53:00 - [22] - Quote Thank you guys all for answers.Slowly I'm starting to learn and understand some things since people in eve are friendly .
monkfish2345 State Protectorate Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.02.25 15:56:00 - [23] - Quote we're not that friendly......... be careful who and how much you trust.
Princess Nexxala Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats 289	Posted - 2013.02.25 16:06:00 - [24] - Quote My head just exploded... Egravant Alduin wrote: since people in eve are friendly . QCATs is recruiting https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180
Taoist Dragon Bastion of Mad Behaviour 267	Posted - 2013.02.25 20:07:00 - [25] - Quote monkfish2345 wrote: we're not that friendly......... be careful who and how much you trust. I'm friendly. Doesn't mean I won't shoot you but I'll be nice about it! To OP Find a like minded corp to get your feet wet in the pvp world. That is the Way, the Tao. Balance is everything. I'm NOT a Pirate! I'm a privateer!
IbanezLaney the church of awesome Caldari State Capturing 225	Posted - 2013.02.25 21:07:00 - [26] - Quote Egravant Alduin wrote: Thank you guys all for answers.Slowly I'm starting to learn and understand some things since people in eve are friendly . - are there 2 different games called Eve? Fix this **** See Sea Pea.
Id hitthat Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.02.26 09:45:00 - [27] - Quote Egravant Alduin wrote: Guys you are very helpful and i learn a lot from you This is why a corp usually isn't such a bad idea. The road towards being slightly less clueless will go a lot faster. You might even end up liking the social aspect of it or the small gang roams with more experienced players. What's your biggest reason for being so against it? Anyways gl and have fun, as long as you have that noone can say you're doing it wrong :)

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