Give me back my Battlecruisers they were fine the way they were =(

Are you mad ????

You know that CCP hate giving players options. That would result in players being able to adjust settings to what suits them, and not what suits CCP. It will never catch on.

oh nooo, there's no way to get a symmetrical turret layout on the Ferox :(
the harbinger's lower and upper turrets (models) can't be filled anymore, either

That's not exactly a big deal, though.

The bug stopping tier three BC appearing on the custom overview is unfortunate, but at least it's solvable.

I can use the autopilot thing to identify stars, too. It's not useful but it's a bit of fun I like it

LOL

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improvements what improvements ???

all i can see is wastes of time and look im a dev nerf bat swining. Another awful patch.

LOL

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cant fit a missile launcher to Ferrox since upgrade.
Is that part of the re-balancing? or a bug?

Jalen1

I already told you that the drake does more damage now than before. Stop whining.

If you actually do the math, you'll see a more level playing field than before. It's really not nearly as bad as people are making it out to be. They took away what you knew, now you need to think of a new way to fit your ship, or just wait for someone to make a new cookie cutter fit.

Pitting several high SP accounts against each other in newly modified battlecruisers has been more fun and actually provides a challenge. Sorry you can't bring your Drake to everything.

All ships are have always been made for specific roles, these rules are simply being made more defined and delineated to help ensure that some ships aren't made obsolete by others.
You still have plenty of options. In fact you have more options than you did before.
You seem to be complaining that one ship can do slightly less than it could before... well that ship WAS broken. Get over it.

I'm not running for the CSM. I'm advocating someone else who is.

Besides, the Drake being broken is a pretty objective assessment, seeing as until recently it was so overpowered there was almost no reason to use any other BC (except for maybe the Hurricane).

If you ask me having five unbonused launchers on the Ferox doesn't really count as an "option".

Kewl patch guys.

The routes in space look awesome and really make me feel like I am in a VR universe.

Do you intend on seeding the BPO's for the AAR's anytime soon? Can't find them anywhere, not even in Jita

Exactly. Being now forced into zhit fits is no fun at all. The fun was in the freedom to build and experiment, now its "put piece A into hole A, shove dongle B up orifice B" and so forth.
Dull.

I have lost count of the number of times CCP has either neutered a ship to hell or rendered a skill useless over the years.

The only feedback to which CCP listens is that of your wallet closing on their sticky fingers. Unsubscribe if you want to send CCP a message.

Then let your accounts go dormant.

The most powerful statement that you can make is to not give CCP your hard earned wages (or buy PLEX from some other punter to keep your accounts active). There's a ton of very entertaining games available for either a one-time fee or for free, these days. Check out one of those if you are an avid gamer.

Or go outside and breath fresh air whilst CCP does without your currency.

I'm thinking i might make another thread unless someone else does to see how many people will be willing to do this till they fix it.


this has happened before do not forget CCP. Remember who and what you are doing this game for! If not i look forward to some hub smashing again and petitions! http://www.polygon.com/features/2013/1/24/3754594/at-war-with-fans-eve-onlines-fall-and-rise-from-infamy

Personally, I think what was done to Battle Cruisers is shameful. The Battle from the name was ripped off ...only cruiser is left now.
Simply makes no sense. Battle Cruisers gained mass but lost a lot of EHP and turrets. Makes no sense at all. It seems now that with every Patch more and more ships and modules are nerfed. I personally no longer look forward to new updates because the first thing that comes to my mind is what will be nerfed instead of what new and wonderful items and improvements will be introduced. Update by update, my enjoyment of the game is lessening... I no longer am sure if I will sign up for another year.
The Summer Rebalancing of Ships fills me with dread...

Well we had a nice long period of CCP sensibility. Now it looks like they are drifting back into looney tunes mode.

I really hate what they have done to my BC's. To put it bluntly, it's **********g stupid.

As I see it I am left with only two options.
1- Let my subs run dry and wait until the loons leave the asylum.
2- Change my sex and become Amarr.

Lol you made that post in a forum where people intentionally put stuff they want to NEVER be read or considered.

The only thing about the lines in space that I would like to see improved upon is the lines start from the first gate you jump through. Kind of odd seeing lines directly behind the gate I'm jumping through.

search at general setting the option to lock it

you want feed back in your feed back thread?
ok...
i fully expect to get banned for this because thats how you Russians, and FM's operate.

you broke the ferox and a number of other ships, shield taking is worse now. and its been weaker then armor and unbalanced for awhile now, they have 2x the number of hp given from their extenders, and they generally have better resists.. cut the asb reload time to 45 seconds, or give it back 1 or 2 more space for cap charges.

listening to a miss guided or PMSing few on the forums has been a lot of games downfalls, and when the changes hit the game, and the normal players see what just happened, they get pissed and leave.

i dont speak for everyone, but i do speak for some.

give the ferox its missiles back,
add 5% damage and 7.5% range back to heavy missiles. (by default.) its pathetic that a Rapid light missile drake can out damage a heavy missile drake.
give torpedoes a 25% over all range increase (by default.) battleships are large slow targets, the range on torps is so pore its a joke, infact increase all of the short range weapons.

speaking of range, whats up with this 100 km sniping range nonsense???
ive played games where the CWIS and Point defense guns, the point blank weapons, begin interception fire at 36 Km... most heavy weapons engaged at 800-1150 km, and very long range weapons could reach out to 1,600-2,400 km.
now that may be extreme for this game, but do you see the point im trying to make?

double the damage of rail guns or give caldari ships a rate of fire or damage bonus, because they are a JOKE. their is a reason hardly anyone uses them. throw those USELESS range bonuses out the window. they are WAY to slow to keep and hold range, so that TOTALLY negates any kind of advantage range bonuses could of offered.. if you want to "bring missiles in line" and "balance the weapons", THEN BUFF THE WEAK / BROKEN ONES!!!! UH DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

add mine layers and mines back into the game.
it will have a ripple effect, on the economy, and in game politics/combat, it also adds a strategic layer back into the game that it lost. and will make combat more fun.

let carriers use warp gates in level 5 missions.

make battleships and battle cruisers 2x and 1.5x (respectively) as effective as they are now against smaller vessels, its ridiculous that you get punished for advancing in ship class, theirs little to NO incentive to move out of anything larger then a cruiser or battlecruiser.

make frigates ACTUALLY FRIGATES, and not fighters. which is what they are now....
and a piloting a fighter/fighter bomber might not be a bad idea.

add PDS, CWIS, AoE, anti shield and anti hull weapons to the game. TOTALLY rework the combat aspect of the game to reflect an actual navy game. use [nexus the Jupiter incident] as a model for this, and a proper navy space game.. eve is a really, really, bad and sad joke in my books.

give caldari ships slightly larger drone bays, give the standard stabber its drone bay back.

speaking of drone bays, the larger the ship, the larger the bay. makes sense doesn't it? DO IT.
1 kilometer long battleship, drone bay of 50m3.... 60 meter long frigate, with a 50m3 or higher drone bay, or 200-300 meter long cruiser with a 200m3 or 300 m3 bay.... WHAT???? ^.0??

if you want to mess with battlecruisers, add faction Bcs. ied love to see a gurista ferox or rokh, with missiles as its weapons and swarms of drones. ied cream my self.

your game has been on a decline for a long time now eve, and their are many reasons for that, so go ahead ban me or what ever, i barely touched the surface, but theirs your feedback, for the off and improbable chance some of what i said actually helps better the game..

i dont really care what you do, because i quit this game. its gotten extremely boring and im done with it. if things improve and some one tells me, i might come back.

oh and UBER long training times to do ANYTHING remotely new or fun dont help either, but their are far more important things to worry about, like a decent combat system,.