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Krapz
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Posted - 2005.07.29 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: Krapz on 29/07/2005 18:30:30 I think the point is being missed. Kills/losses are a moot point in "region control" wars IMO.
I'm not there, and I don't really care, but it does indeed make it tough on defending forces when they have nowhere to dock, and a few less BS's than they started with. If the statement is true, then the [5] certainly would hold the upper hand on the territorial dispute, at least from a logistics perspective.
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.07.29 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Saladin So losses taken in a fight by people who are allied with 5 are not considered [5] losses?
They are none of our buisness and their losses dont affect us in any way. The only time, when losses of an allied force count, is after a fleetbattle with 5 and allied forces fighting together which obviously, when you take a look at the killmails, wasnt the case here.
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.07.29 18:33:00 -
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whos next?
ascn or stain?
Say hello on our forum @www.aserea.com or join our public channel ingame "MLM Public" lordmix >... i helped a corp m8 pull it off |

Kunji Sakara
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Posted - 2005.07.29 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Krapz Edited by: Krapz on 29/07/2005 18:30:30 I think the point is being missed. Kills/losses are a moot point in "region control" wars IMO.
I'm not there, and I don't really care, but it does indeed make it tough on defending forces when they have nowhere to dock, and a few less BS's than they started with. If the statement is true, then the [5] certainly would hold the upper hand on the territorial dispute, at least from a logistics perspective.
I think that you miss the point that this thread is simple bull**** and nothing more. it's more looks like beating yourself in the chest like Gorilla.
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Marnarok
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Posted - 2005.07.29 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: slothe whos next?
ascn or stain?
Foundation. Wait... Foundation doesnŠt exist anymore... so.... Millenium then.
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Kromulus
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Posted - 2005.07.29 18:41:00 -
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FIX; will be next bob have already started to put their own people into fix corps,after that who knows, but my money and many other people in the KNOW say 5v bob
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Rath Amon
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Posted - 2005.07.29 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kromulus people in the KNOW say 5v bob
dont be silly, neither have the balls for that.
judging by the amount of fudge tunnel licking they do, im guessing ascn think they are next...they are probably right
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.07.29 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: Darkrydar on 29/07/2005 19:00:07
Originally by: Rath Amon
Originally by: Kromulus yawn
W00t for fanbois.
OMG, WE'RE UBER (POS KILLS for the nubs)
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Rath Amon
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Posted - 2005.07.29 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar
W00t for fanbois.
baaaa for sheep
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.07.29 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Rath Amon
Originally by: Darkrydar
W00t for fanbois.
baaaa for sheep
LOL, yes yes, you got me there. Get fired from PIE so soon?
OMG, WE'RE UBER (POS KILLS for the nubs) |

Rath Amon
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Posted - 2005.07.29 19:03:00 -
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nope i left, the urge to ridicule was too great
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.07.29 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Rath Amon nope i left, the urge to ridicule was too great
Yep, easier to fight on the forums in other words.
OMG, WE'RE UBER (POS KILLS for the nubs) |

Jorev
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Posted - 2005.07.29 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Rath Amon
Originally by: Darkrydar
W00t for fanbois.
baaaa for sheep
Get over yourself.
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Tiwaz
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Posted - 2005.07.29 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Rath Amon nope i left, the urge to ridicule was too great
Yep, easier to fight on the forums in other words.
You would know wouldnt you?. You seem to do alot of ur fighting here.
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DirtyHarry
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Posted - 2005.07.29 19:20:00 -
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Well there are still plenty of RUS corps hanging around N-RAEL, been poping their bs for the past few days now.
-Havo -------------------
DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - Account Active |

Blackest Sheep
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Posted - 2005.07.29 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Rath Amon baaaa for sheep
Thank you, thank you! Good night, everyone. The sheep has left the building.
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Corak
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Posted - 2005.07.29 19:32:00 -
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who say RED is not exist ?? The Five nothing personaly but you can`t fight 1 vs 1 and 1 vs 2 only start 1 vs 3 . its firsth . second - why you put in RED alians RAT (Rage and Terror) ??? http://five.killboard.net/?p=alliance&a=Red%20Alliance its **** = on stat is RED 139 kills and 350 losses. but if you take calculator = RED 430 kills and 460 losses . AND WHAT YOU CAN PUT RAT(Rage and Terror)IN RED ALIANS STAT ?????????? +RUSH and RUA is corps who i don`t see in us gang mored of 2-3 members . this all your posts is jast for noobs .
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Jorev
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Posted - 2005.07.29 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Corak
who say RED is not exist ?? The Five nothing personaly but you can`t fight 1 vs 1 and 1 vs 2 only start 1 vs 3 . its firsth . second - why you put in RED alians RAT (Rage and Terror) ??? http://five.killboard.net/?p=alliance&a=Red%20Alliance its **** = on stat is RED 139 kills and 350 losses. but if you take calculator = RED 430 kills and 460 losses . AND WHAT YOU CAN PUT RAT(Rage and Terror)IN RED ALIANS STAT ?????????? +RUSH and RUA is corps who i don`t see in us gang mored of 2-3 members . this all your posts is jast for noobs .
After you adjust for italians, germans won the WWII as well.
Stat parsing FTL. You have no stations.
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Rath Amon
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Posted - 2005.07.29 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Darkrydar
Yep, easier to fight on the forums in other words.
like one of your blobs...i feel all safe and warm 
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Kunji Sakara
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Posted - 2005.07.29 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Jorev Stat parsing FTL. You have no stations.
Oh realy? Try to hold them for 1 week.
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.07.29 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Corak
who say RED is not exist ?? The Five nothing personaly but you can`t fight 1 vs 1 and 1 vs 2 only start 1 vs 3 . its firsth . second - why you put in RED alians RAT (Rage and Terror) ??? http://five.killboard.net/?p=alliance&a=Red%20Alliance its **** = on stat is RED 139 kills and 350 losses. but if you take calculator = RED 430 kills and 460 losses . AND WHAT YOU CAN PUT RAT(Rage and Terror)IN RED ALIANS STAT ?????????? +RUSH and RUA is corps who i don`t see in us gang mored of 2-3 members . this all your posts is jast for noobs .
i thought of a witty reply but all i really could come up with is "?_? <-> :o"
emoticons help to communicate if you dont speak the same language so just try to use them more and lesser text, would greatly improve the understanding of your text.
here i summed it up for you, Corak:
          
pretty much sums up everything you said (there is no sign for epeen measurement but the pirate with exclamationmark would do it i suppose)
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Jorev
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Posted - 2005.07.29 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kunji Sakara
Originally by: Jorev Stat parsing FTL. You have no stations.
Oh realy? Try to hold them for 1 week.
You're right, we will lose them all in a few days....
Thanks for pointing that out and have fun.
ALT hits [5] Scalding Pass Refinery for 1000.00 forum damage
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Terradoct
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Posted - 2005.07.29 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jorev
Originally by: Kunji Sakara
Originally by: Jorev Stat parsing FTL. You have no stations.
Oh realy? Try to hold them for 1 week.
You're right, we will lose them all in a few days....
Thanks for pointing that out and have fun.
ALT hits [5] Scalding Pass Refinery for 1000.00 forum damage
Your welcome, and that was me, just stupide forum settings that do not wish to work right.
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Jorev
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Posted - 2005.07.29 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Terradoct
Your welcome, and that was me, just stupide forum settings that do not wish to work right.
In that case I am glad there will be more fights.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.07.29 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tiwaz
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Rath Amon nope i left, the urge to ridicule was too great
Yep, easier to fight on the forums in other words.
You would know wouldnt you?. You seem to do alot of ur fighting here.
Difference is I back up ingame what I say on the forums.
I dont camp an empire gate to look tough like some ppl do.
OMG, WE'RE UBER (POS KILLS for the nubs) |

Zagum Darkfin
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Posted - 2005.07.29 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Corak
who say RED is not exist ?? The Five nothing personaly but you can`t fight 1 vs 1 and 1 vs 2 only start 1 vs 3 . its firsth . second - why you put in RED alians RAT (Rage and Terror) ??? http://five.killboard.net/?p=alliance&a=Red%20Alliance its **** = on stat is RED 139 kills and 350 losses. but if you take calculator = RED 430 kills and 460 losses . AND WHAT YOU CAN PUT RAT(Rage and Terror)IN RED ALIANS STAT ?????????? +RUSH and RUA is corps who i don`t see in us gang mored of 2-3 members . this all your posts is jast for noobs .
RAT = RA, RA = RAT 
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Terradoct
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Posted - 2005.07.29 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: Zagum Darkfin RAT = RA, RA = RAT 
RAT is single corporation that do not have nothing common with RA. If start pointing on pilot from RA joining RAT, then I can say same for VOTF or IMP or SE, or any other corporation or alliance in eve wich pilots are joined you alliance that the former corps or allince are [5]. Stop beating old ghorse it's dead long time ago.
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Jorev
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Posted - 2005.07.29 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Terradoct
Originally by: Zagum Darkfin RAT = RA, RA = RAT 
RAT is single corporation that do not have nothing common with RA. If start pointing on pilot from RA joining RAT, then I can say same for VOTF or IMP or SE, or any other corporation or alliance in eve wich pilots are joined you alliance that the former corps or allince are [5]. Stop beating old ghorse it's dead long time ago.
Be it as it may, the potential conflict of interest is just too high. Under the circumstances, being wrong in this matter is a chance [5] is more than willing to take.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.07.29 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Rodney Munch
Originally by: Galavet
Originally by: sapage1
And withdrawl of assets from a heavily seiged area is a tacticaly sound course of action.
You call it tacticaly sound, I call it retreat.
You call it retreat, I call it running away like little girls.

Originally by: Saladin So losses taken in a fight by people who are allied with 5 are not considered [5] losses?
I remember this policy of kill mail registration. Individual corps that teamed up with SA (ATUK,m0o, EVOL) against CA would claim victory after a fight because the losses of the individual corp were fewer than the kills the entire fleet (corp+SA) took part in. This also later evolved to 'editing in' people into kill mails because the current system does not register warp scrambling, target painting or other similar activities as inflicting damage upon an opponent.
The next logical step would be cross registration of kills between the [5] and its allies to further inflate numbers.
Well if XII flew with the Fives fleet then it does sort of count as the five's losses. If XII flew alone and lost ships fighting RA while simply being an ally of the five it doesnt really count as their losses.
Of course in the end region control in RA space comes down to the stations, as they have no npc stations its much easier to claim control then it is of a region like curse. RA nolonger has any strike bases in their space, apart from POS but those are worthless when it comes to fitting ships tbh.
So all their assaults would be done either from curse, gw or possibly the npc stations in geminate? ------------------
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Metal Dude
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Posted - 2005.07.29 20:48:00 -
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Edited by: Metal Dude on 29/07/2005 20:53:37
Remember the saying friend of an enemy is my enemy? I mean all you guys used it to shoot our allies, why is it so hard for you to understand that RAT and RA are friends, not to mention IMP, Foundation, Celest... Simple. F1, F2, F3...
The truth will set you free
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