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Malcanis
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Posted - 2013.02.20 10:44:00 -
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Trebor has proved his commitment and value to the CSM beyond all doubt. I'm running myself this year, but I also very much want Trebor to get a seat because we will need him on CSM8 for his insitutional knowledge and experience. Give Trebor (some of) your votes! Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

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Posted - 2013.02.21 14:31:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Just a quick note that the Election devblog has been published. Lots of interesting changes, enjoy!
Ahahahah, well all hail the CFC & HBC approved CSM. I don't want to hear any complaints that they didn't warn us.
The forum drama from this is going to be hilarious. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

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Posted - 2013.02.21 14:58:00 -
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Wescro wrote:
Candidates like Malcanis and James 315 have put forward some grand designs or concepts they'd like to see. Even if the CSM has so far been unable to enact real change, we know what their vision of EVE is. From your OP I can tell that its written from the inside perspective, which is why it offers assurances of responsiveness and diligent broad issue-advocacy to CCP. Could you perhaps share with us, unachievable through CSM as it may seem, your grand vision of where EVE should head next?
It's nice of you to mention me in Trebor's thread. My term for for concept you're trying to articulate is the philosophy of the game. As in, what concepts it should express.
Incidentally, I take some issue with the message in your sig. I would claim to be at least as dedicated to "the sandbox" as James, and if you would like to continue the discussion in my thread, I would be happy to do so. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

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Posted - 2013.02.21 21:54:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
2) None of the other active CSMs decided to run again, and continuity between CSM7 and CSM8 will be important, particularly in light of (1).
I'd just like to re-emphasise this. Even if you don't particularly agree with Trebor's ideas, he will be immensely valuable because he has the experience and background knowledge that CSM8 will require to function with its full potential.
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Posted - 2013.02.22 20:40:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Malcanis wrote:Trebor Daehdoow wrote:2) None of the other active CSMs decided to run again, and continuity between CSM7 and CSM8 will be important, particularly in light of (1).
I'd just like to re-emphasise this. Even if you don't particularly agree with Trebor's ideas, he will be immensely valuable because he has the experience and background knowledge that CSM8 will require to function with its full potential. Bullshit. There's an alumni CSM channel for this express purpose. If CSM8 wants to know where CSM7 left off with the stakeholder project, they can ask any of the CSM7 candidates about it on that Skype channel.
I'd rather rely on a more concrete contact. I think at this stage we will have to agree to disagree. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

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Posted - 2013.02.22 23:10:00 -
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What if these alumni just decide not to bother? They have no responsibilities, no accountability, no access to the CSM forums after they've left. Come now, it's a useful backup, but it's no substitute for the real thing. If you weren't so caught up in your own rhetoric, you'd be the first to point out that weakness. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

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Posted - 2013.02.22 23:42:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Malcanis wrote:What if these alumni just decide not to bother? They have no responsibilities, no accountability, no access to the CSM forums after they've left. Come now, it's a useful backup, but it's no substitute for the real thing. If you weren't so caught up in your own rhetoric, you'd be the first to point out that weakness. I know all about the alumni channel. Most of the ex-CSM hang around the process as much as they can, because they're addicted to the process. There's little chance you wouldn't find a "retired" CSM who wouldn't want to give his two cents again. It'll probably get pretty annoying that Hans, Aleks, Seleene, and Two Step won't leave you alone, won't stop giving you all their "helpful advice". So, escaping the alumni channel is the problem, not finding anyone in there to talk too.
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Posted - 2013.02.24 10:38:00 -
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I draw a different moral from Trebor's Churchill anecdote, specifically: once you've shown that you're ready to sell out what you believe in, then there's nothing to stop people from dragging the price down as far as they like. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

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Posted - 2013.02.24 13:51:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Malcanis wrote:I draw a different moral from Trebor's Churchill anecdote, specifically: once you've shown that you're ready to sell out what you believe in, then there's nothing to stop people from dragging the price down as far as they like. Amusing, but not relevant in the context I used the anecdote. Having strong beliefs is fine, as long as you're willing to change them when confronted with credible evidence that they are wrong. Most people hate doubt and uncertainty, but I consider them my friends -- they make me less prone to serious error.
That wasn't the context you provided though: it was doing something you'd find morally repugnant for a sufficient incentive, not having your belief in whether it was repugnant changed. Once you've shown youre willing to do it at all, then what leverage do you have to keep the price high? Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

Malcanis
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Posted - 2013.02.24 20:09:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Malcanis wrote:That wasn't the context you provided though: it was doing something you'd find morally repugnant for a sufficient incentive, not having your belief in whether it was repugnant changed. Once you've shown youre willing to do it at all, then what leverage do you have to keep the price high? I think that you are reading more into the anecdote than I intended.
It's one of the more annoying of my wide and complete range of annoying habits.
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:The morally pure sandbox position would be that all areas of space should be unrestricted, but we have decided (for obvious reasons) to sully ourselves by having different regions of risk/reward in the game. As such, the argument is over the details of those tradeoffs. I confess amusement when people trot out the "keep the sandbox clean" argument. The truth is that the sandbox is full of turds -- it has to be in order for EVE to be a functional game. What we can do is discuss the size, shape, number and artistic arrangement of the turds. 
I'm well aware that deal making and compromise is a part of the process. That's why you'll be glad to have my idealism to increase your bargaining leverage, and I'll be glad to have the use of your pragmatism to get me the best deal and the fewest turds in the sand Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2013.02.24 20:13:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Malcanis wrote:I draw a different moral from Trebor's Churchill anecdote, specifically: once you've shown that you're ready to sell out what you believe in, then there's nothing to stop people from dragging the price down as far as they like. Trebor's entire campaign is about selling out. And he's trying to convince as many as he can to sell out with him. "Look what I can promise you if you sell out! More devs! Faster [your area of space] development!"
Idealists alone never get a deal. Pragmatists alone don't get anything but a deal. You need both to get the best result. I'm still looking forward very much to working with Trebor, because he'll be able to help me get better results than I would without him, as he's no doubt looking forward to working with me, because he'll be able to use me as bargaining weight to get those deals dealt.
If he gets more out of the arrangement than I do, then it sucks to be me.
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Posted - 2013.02.24 20:42:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Malcanis wrote:I'm well aware that deal making and compromise is a part of the process. I'm pretty sure that's not what the CSM is about. It's not horse trading. CCP tells the CSM what it is going to do. If the CSM sees any particular "bad ideas" in the bunch, then your job is to convince CCP why it's a bad idea and why they should not continue down a particular road. Maybe some middle road can be reached, but you don't have to give something up in lowsec to adjust some piece of development in nullsec. It's not about deal making: "CCP dudes, if you give some ground with this super-cap thing, you know don't nerf the Titan bridge range, then I promise to go easy on you with that highsec consensual wardec thing." I'm pretty sure that's exactly not how the CSM/CCP relationship works.
I look forward to giving you more data upon which to base your assumptions. Who said anything about CCP?
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Posted - 2013.02.25 20:41:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Dersen Lowery wrote:Malcanis, Ripard Teg, and Trebor Daehdoow for CSM 8
(I have three accounts, so why not?) I agree with your sentiments, but we have to have a little chat about your priorities... 
Alphabetical is as good an order as any! Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

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Posted - 2013.02.25 21:39:00 -
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Pearls before swine. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

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Posted - 2013.02.27 11:10:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:rodyas wrote:Frying Doom wrote: I think "As CCP Xhagen has made the position clear; this thread is now locked." really sums up CCPs customer service skills.
Well, they are a company, so you shouldn't expect any more really. But it is kind of sad too though. I would love to do their employee evaluations. "Attendance, good" "Attitude: Great" 'Team work: could use some improvement" "Customer Complaints / Interactions: You're Fired" 
Personally, I've generally found CCP's blunt communication style to make a refreshing change from the bland, anodyne, responsibility-evading, passive-voiced, corporate-approved bullshit we see from most companies. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

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Posted - 2013.02.27 11:34:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Malcanis wrote:Frying Doom wrote:rodyas wrote:Frying Doom wrote: I think "As CCP Xhagen has made the position clear; this thread is now locked." really sums up CCPs customer service skills.
Well, they are a company, so you shouldn't expect any more really. But it is kind of sad too though. I would love to do their employee evaluations. "Attendance, good" "Attitude: Great" 'Team work: could use some improvement" "Customer Complaints / Interactions: You're Fired"  Personally, I've generally found CCP's blunt communication style to make a refreshing change from the bland, anodyne, responsibility-evading, passive-voiced, corporate-approved bullshit we see from most companies. While I will agree some of there public relations can be fun but on the other side of that coin having petition handled in ways that could only be considered mocking, having quite often just out right rude or insulting statements or for that matter and one I have fired people over the old "Sorry that's not part of our job" But the "As CCP Xhagen has made the position clear; this thread is now locked." was a really good example out of CCP we have had that they might be legally vulnerable if they try to conceal the people names and something happens. Yes correct they can be, in some jurisdictions. While releasing the payers names can only lead to serious criminal charges if something really bad happens in others. So in the cases of actual player safety where we have already had death threats, stalking, people attempting to get CSM members fired ect... I just find "As CCP Xhagen has made the position clear; this thread is now locked." does not cut it.
Companies who communicate that way simply wouldn't have a CSM in the first place. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

Malcanis
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Posted - 2013.03.03 19:06:00 -
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Vince Snetterton wrote:Assuming the HBC/CFC voting bloc wants you on the CSM, how do you propose to fight the zealots intent on destroying high sec?
It is a safe bet that at least one fringe candidate, who shall remain nameless, is a lock for the CSM with the new voting system, if the HBC/CFC want him on there. Under a fair voting system, he would be a joke, but with the overwhelming influence null sec will have on this "election", we are going to see a ton of nutbar platforms being considered mainstream.
It appears you may be the only voice of sanity on this CSM which will have a mandate to drive high sec income potential to dust. How do you plan on fighting that?
Out of interest, would you like to list the candidates who you believe are "intent on destroying high sec"?
(This will help Trebor with his answer)
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2013.03.07 06:58:00 -
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Wescro2 wrote:I disagree. I don't see the CSM as "pick your favorite workaholic." The CSM itself does very little as it is not a legislative or executive body
Who, in a large company is a "legislative or executive body"? I'm not in y RL job, that's for sure; I operate under all kinds of constraints in which I have little or, more usually, no say in determining. However, within those constraints I am constantly making decisions, the results of which to add a great deal of value to the process, and I spend a lot of time doing so.
Saying that the "CSM does very little" because it's not the God-Emperor of CCP is simply naive. All the outgoing CSMs agree that there's a hell of a lot that the CSM does, that there's a lot of work, and that they add value. CCP have increasingly supported that assertion, especially Unifex.
EDIT: You can be very sure that I woudn't bother wasting my time on all this if I didn't think the above was true. Indeed, if I am proved wrong and it turns out that the CSM is a worthless talking shop, I'll be the first to say so, loudly and clearly and right here where you can all read it. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

Malcanis
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Posted - 2013.03.07 07:50:00 -
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So in your eyes unless the CSM literally has more power than the CEO of EVE, it's a talking shop?
You have an odd idea of how things work. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

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Posted - 2013.03.07 10:16:00 -
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Wescro wrote:[quote=Malcanis]
Whatever influence the CSM is able to wield is limited by how inclined CCP is to hear their advocacy.
This is entirely true. Would you say that CCP are on an level, increasing or decreasing trend of willingness to hear the CSM's advocacy?
Incidentally, you just described my job quite well. I have to reconcile competing interests to achieve efficient results that also satisfy our corporate customers - none of whom I have any authority over, all of whom I can only "advocate" to. My working day is spent basically persuading these people to modify their requests, or relax their restrictions, or do something over and above the minimum they're required to do, in order to hit my targets. The CSM being "limited by how inclined CCP is to hear their advocacy" is, in short, a working situation to which I am wholly accustomed.
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Posted - 2013.03.08 13:34:00 -
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Well they can just suicide gank inste...
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Posted - 2013.03.11 10:40:00 -
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I'm not even sure what you mean by "selling out" at this stage. It feels like you seem to believe that if the CSM isn't in a state of open warfare with CCP then it's not doing its job. I won't say that CCP have been 'perfect' during CSM7's term, but I do believe that they have done more things right than they have since the CSM started.
If "selling out" means "supporting CCP when they get it right" to you, then I'm afraid you have an endorsement for someone who is an enthusiastic and vocal sellout in your sig. When I see dumb stuff like "POS are only used by a small percentage of the EVE community", then I have no hesitation in exposing the terrible assumptions in such a foolish statement, but I'm equally all in favour of positive reinforcement. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

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Posted - 2013.03.11 15:48:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Yeep wrote:See my personal take on this is CCP should be trying to encourage people living in highsec to value their corporations and to stay in them during wars. I had an interesting (if brief and offtopic) discussion about the possibility of corporation skillpoints which give greater benefits to pilots who stay in corp longer and allow corps to specialise over here. I'm not so sure I like the mechanic (I'd have to think about it for a while) but I certainly appreciate the problem it is trying to solve. Basically, there are two ways to go about it -- give people an incentive to stay in corp during the hard times, or penalize rats who leave a sinking ship. The problem is that either one is just adding another bag on the side of the existing mechanic.
Rather than skillpoints, a better vehicle for conveying loyalty bonuses might be LPs earned and refine bonuses derived from corp standings.
Example: HighCorp has a standing of +7.5 to Spacelane Patrol. When HighCorp members are doing Spacelane Patrol missions, they can earn up to a 7.5% bonus to their LP rewards. The bonus starts at 0.75% and increases by 0.75% every 7th downtime until it reaches the maximum level, taking 70 days to reach that max level). If they leave and later rejoin, their bonus starts again at 0.75% and it will take them another 70 days to max out their loyalty bonus. (Numbers picked purely for illustration of the mechanism) Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

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Posted - 2013.03.11 16:43:00 -
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Yeep wrote:Malcanis wrote: Rather than skillpoints, a better vehicle for conveying loyalty bonuses might be LPs earned and refine bonuses derived from corp standings.
This would only further reinforce solo play in single person corps. Corp standings get exponentially harder to maintain as your corp gets larger and its possible for one person to screw it up accidentally to the point where your only recourse is to kick them.
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Posted - 2013.03.11 20:30:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Since you gentlemen have invited yourselves over and gotten comfortable, how about you demonstrate your applied CSMing skills by explaining how you'd go about persuading CCP to increase the differentiation between (or granularity of) player vs. NPC corps?
I'd start by taking a leaf from your book, Trebor, and going back to first principles: what are NPC corps supposed to be for? The current mode of "unelected choice of undifferentiated dumping ground for people who aren't in a player corp" seems to me to be... suboptimal.
I'd like to see players able to choose their own NPC corp, and I'd like to see that choice actually mean something wrt to game mechanics - advantages, disadvantages, bonuses, penalties, drawbacks and opportunities. This NPC corp should be a natural choice for people who like mining, that NPC corp might attract haulers, and so on. As this would encourage people with similar interests to be in contact with each other, they'd be forming communities with a common outlook, and this in turn would also provide a good solute for more player corps to crystallise from Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

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Posted - 2013.03.12 07:07:00 -
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Tcar wrote:Malcanis wrote: I'd like to see players able to choose their own NPC corp, and I'd like to see that choice actually mean something wrt to game mechanics - advantages, disadvantages, bonuses, penalties, drawbacks and opportunities. This NPC corp should be a natural choice for people who like mining, that NPC corp might attract haulers, and so on. As this would encourage people with similar interests to be in contact with each other, they'd be forming communities with a common outlook, and this in turn would also provide a good solute for more player corps to crystallise from
Good answer I think. I like the possibility catalyzing/promoting player corps formation. This could also play well into ideas that were floated in the past such as player run customs enforcement etc.** Now, how would you sell this to CCP as worth time ans resources, both of which are finite within CCP.
Basically everyone recognises that one of the biggest challenges facing EVE is to improve new player retention and that one of the best ways to do this is to get them involved in groups of existing players. My suggestion provides an obvious vehicle to do this, and it needn't be too developmentally expensive.
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Posted - 2013.03.16 09:09:00 -
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Torakenat wrote:I disagree that more devs=getting stuff done faster argument.
Then logically, you would agree that zero devs = fastest?
Seriously though, everyone is aware that "more devs" isn't sufficient for more development, but it's certainly necessary. Especially if you want to develop multiple projects. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

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Posted - 2013.03.16 11:28:00 -
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Alekseyev Karrde wrote:The best way to increase revenues is to focus on making a good game through solid releases that enhance EVE"s core gameplay elements or add new ones in keeping with the flavor of the game. Money will, and has, followed.
This.
As I said in another thread, no one goes to a Steak House for the salad bar.
Your steak house will make more money by buying better steaks, training up more chefs, improving the bar and the wine list and maybe by adding a Mongolian BBQ option. Spending a million bucks on your own rooftop tempeh vat and a greenhouse to grow tomatoes and lettuce for the side salads might please the owners vegetarian girlfriend, but it won't bring in a new customer base.
Part of the CSMs job is to advise CCP which proposals are rib eyes and which are mouldy soybeans. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

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Posted - 2013.03.20 14:44:00 -
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Yeep wrote:mynnna wrote:Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
So: gold ammo, ads, stuff designed to force players to buy PLEXes/AURUM -- bad.
Now I'm actually curious about your opinion - what about cosmetic microtransaction type of stuff? Buy ship skins/decals/etc with aurum (which could then be sold for isk on the markets as well). Essentially the same thing as the clothes already in the NEx store, but for your ships. This isn't anywhere near Eve-like enough. There should be sections of the AURUM store gated by faction standings and only available in specific stations that sell pigments and solvents and paint BPOs (Colours like black and pink obviously come from pirate faction stores). Once you've made some coloured paint you sell it on (for ISK) to another player who has trained paint scheme design to V to be able to use 5 different colours in a pattern and bought a pattern BPO (obviously from another faction standing gated AURUM store). That player then sells the paint scheme on the ISK market to the end user who applies it (after training painting V for the 5 colour scheme and ship customisation I for the ability to add one customisation obviously). You could make clothes the same way with added steps for making thread and cloth.
I know you're being ironic, but this is exactly how it should work. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

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Posted - 2013.03.21 07:52:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote: Trebor Daehdoow wrote: CSM7 has been a failure I could not agree with you more, The miining barge change was good as was the FW changes. But honestly can you point me to the page that shows CSM 7, was not a failure?
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Posted - 2013.03.22 14:02:00 -
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Friggz wrote:No one can show 'evidence' that CSM 7 was or was not a failure. Not unless there is a governing entity that set specific measurable goals for CSM which we can then compare and see if they were met. Obviously that isn't the case so since we have no defined parameters to denote failure or success it's going to be opinion, and you can't 'prove' opinion.
It's also not fair to point to certain changes in the game and blame the CSM if you don't like them. The CSM provides feedback to CCP but ultimately it's always up to CCP to take it or not. Often times the feedback is going to be mixed between the different delegates.
In order words, the CSM is not responsible for every change to the game that occurs during their term. They are not the game developers. Would a certain change have not happened if the CSM was different? We don't have that information.
Everyone will have their own opinion of how successful they feel CSM7 was or was not. Some of those opinions will be more informed than others, but it's still an opinion until someone can provide a measurable statistic of success.
This is one of the reasons I want to up the information flow from the CSM to the players. Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

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Posted - 2013.03.22 23:11:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote: the community reaction to CCP's announcements about the Summer expansion at PAX East tomorrow.
MalcTipGäó: Go long on 1600mm plates
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Posted - 2013.03.23 08:42:00 -
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mynnna wrote:C'mon now, if we're talking about investment tips, do you want to take them from Malcanis, or from the guy worth a trillion and a half via market games? 
If you want to bet against EVE players raging about something then stay right there while I liquidate all my assets
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote: Quite a few of the members of CSM made our own expansion proposals, to help CCP get some perspective on how players might rank these things. When I compare my proposal to Odyssey, most of what I pitched got included.
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Frying Doom wrote:Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Accomplishments during CSMs 5-7As vice-secretary of CSM 5, secretary of CSM 6, and vice-chairman of CSM 7, I was a primary author and/or editor of almost all CSM Blogs and Summit Reports. In CSMs 5 and 6, I raised, championed and pushed through significant CSM proposals aimed at benefiting broad groups of EVE players (in particular, User Interface related issues), such as the Removal of Learning Skills, the User Interface - Big Wins, Fan Favorites and Low Hanging Fruit Proposal, the Planetary Interaction Omnibus Proposal, and the Possibly Practical POS Performance Proposal. Elements of many of these proposals have found their way into the game. I created, developed and managed the concept of Prioritization Crowdsourcing, which was used to poll the players and determine what items on the CSM in-process list should be given the highest priority in negotiations with CCP. When CCP shifted their focus back to Flying-in-Space development in the Fall of 2011, these lists helped determine what got developer time. Furthermore, I have steadfastly pushed for CCP to deliver on their promise to make CSM a full stakeholder in the development process. I spearheaded the production of CSM 7's Development Strategy document, which influenced the creation of CCP's new development model, and resulted in CSM becoming intimately involved in the Release Planning for new expansions at the earliest stages. Slowly and methodically, I have expanded the ability of the CSM to influence the evolution of the game in directions that reflect the wishes of the community. Note: My main campaign info page contains a version of this document with extra details. Meissa Anunthiel wrote:If any one CSM member ever takes credit for an addition, bugfix, feature, modification, or whatever, call bullshit on them. No one person has in my memory been responsible for the inclusion of something in Eve, not even me. It has never been a case where one of us wrote down a stone tablet, laid it down at CCP's feet while being jealously watched by the other CSM member, their eyes filed with silent hatred at not being able to say "I did this!" should CCP pick it up. We theorycraft, we mention problems, possible solutions, relative priorities, explore alternatives, we go back and forth between ourselves, with different people at CCP. If an idea has traction, it gets worked on, elaborated, refined by all, and sometimes it gets implemented, sometimes after a couple of years, sometimes fairly directly. A side note to this is that the first half of the stuff CCP produces during a term is after the output of the previous CSM, not the current. Be very wary of people taking credit with "I did this"...
Well which is it? Either Trebor is exceptionally bad for not producing results, or he's exceptionally bad for producing a list of results.
You can't criticise a leader for not executing enough criminals one minute and then condemn capital punishment the next.
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Snow Axe wrote:Trebor Daehdoow wrote:I will pass over the obvious "the graveyards are full of people who put their faith in the kindness of goons" troll and address this "mandate" thing. I believe you over-rate it. Mittens' vote total may have impressed some people in the community, but inside CSM you are judged by the quality of your work and your effectiveness at influencing CCP, and the size of your ballot has nothing to do with this. For example, one of the most influential members of CSM7 was Alekseyev Karrde, who came in 13th. I don't really care whether or not you think a mandate has value. Mittens clearly thought it had value, which is why he did it. Your opinion on the subject is irrelevant.
I beg your pardon, but it isn't. Trebor had a year to observe first hand whether the "mandate" converted to any additional influence within the CSM-CCP relationship. You didn't. His opinion clearly counts for more than yours because he has better access to the data.
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Snow Axe wrote:Malcanis wrote:I beg your pardon, but it isn't. Trebor had a year to observe first hand whether the "mandate" converted to any additional influence within the CSM-CCP relationship. You didn't. His opinion clearly counts for more than yours because he has better access to the data. Except it is, because the point is not whether or not Trebor or whoever thinks it'd be worth it, it's whether or not we think it'd work. Clearly, we did, hence voting Mittens as the only candidate. I could also point out that "Trebor observed" is objectively wrong, as Mittens didn't end up on CSM 7 for reasons we're all aware of, so there's nothing he could have "observed" about it. Even that's beside the point. I said that we (being the CFC, aka the largest voting bloc in the last election) felt a powerful mandate would be a valuable tool and acted as such. This is 100% true, as we literally did that during CSM 7's elections (and likely would have done the same for CSM 8 had there not been a change in voting system). Trebor giving his opinion on its efficacy is irrelevant to the point I was making. If you wouldn't have been in such a rush to show deference to PROVEN PERFORMER TREBOR DAEHDOOW'S opinion simply because it exists, you'd have seen that.
I think perhaps we're using different definitions of "relevance". If you mean it in the sense of "motivating people to vote", then fair enough. If you mean it in the sense of "eliciting results from CCP" then not.
PS I'm too old and fat to be in a rush to do anything much these days.
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Frying Doom wrote:
So if you want to go and get hi-sec folks to vote be my guest, I spent weeks doing it last year on 4 accounts simultaneously, but this year the ball is in CCPs court.
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Friggz wrote: You seem to be under the impression that the worse CCP makes the game, the more money they'll make. I feel the reverse is true...
I agree. There seems to be a popular fallacy that CCP are under constant pressure to "WoWify" EVE in order to make more money (when I say it's a popular fallacy, I mean it's popular with a certain subset of the playerbase) but never yet has anyone been able to point to an example of this working, still less how it could be expected to work specifically for EVE. And there are also examples of it failing badly. (Star Wars NGE)
Despite the utter lack of evidence for it, and the large amount of evidence against it, the fallacy persists, along with the assumption that CCP are stupid enough to believe it too.
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Frying Doom wrote:I would also like to ask your opinion of CCPs promotion of the CSM elections so far. Also how would you respond to the fact that this is so far the most boring CSM election I have seen so far, I mean just look at Jita park, last year this place was flying along and now it is almost as popular as it is for the rest of the year.
GD is as boring as hell for the election as well. The Voting threads are needing to be beaten to life all the time.
Part of the reason they're so "boring" is that so many of the candidates are strongly in agreement about some of the biggest issues. Go try and find a candidate who doesn't believe that 0.0 badly needs work, that the sov system urgently needs replacing, that it should be based on activity not structures, that the moon goo situation needs reforming and alliances should have bottom up income. We're all pretty much on the same page here; what we're competing on is who will be the best advocate and the most effective communicator.
Mudslinging and bitchposting aren't a good way to convince people of this. Sorry that this election isn't delivering your entertainment fix. Please vote for me for CSM8-áhere
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The same way that he "worked" with Darius III, no doubt. Please vote for me for CSM8-áhere
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Frying Doom wrote:So are you prepared to acknowledge yet that STV was a horrible idea, that has caused the most boring election in the History of EvE...
It's not the job of an election to provide entertainment. "Entertaining" elections are generally bad elections, per the old Chinese curse 'May you live in interesting times.'
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Snow Axe wrote:STV absolutely fixes #2, as it will definitely ensure a better representation of the actual voters, especially compared to FPTP.
Of course, it avoids a trickier question - will an accurate representation of the current voter base produce a varied, desirable CSM? Unfortunately, that question never got asked
I asked it, but unfortunately geeks gonna geek and the point of the question was drowned in talk about "fairness".
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Another example of the impotent PR-stunt CSM's terrible power! Please vote for me for CSM8-áhere
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Well we're only a couple of weeks away from letting the results do the talking. Please vote for me for CSM8-áhere
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Implying it wasn't hocked years ago
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Posted - 2013.04.28 12:31:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:how about we actually hear from you during the entire CSM year and not just a few months before re-election time
I'm on it.
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