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Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
230
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Posted - 2013.02.20 05:31:00 -
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No.
Eve is not an ecosystem. We, the players, are the only non-static entity. Nothing revolves around us, changes, or relies on us, that would continue to exist if we were not here.
No.
Tiercide was not a nerf. Most of the ships got buffed, new ship roles got added for ships that didn't otherwise have them, and even in the case of the drake, dps for properly skilled players increased.
No.
The mineral changes in the tiercide were not snuck in. They have been known about for months, some of us have been planning for the mineral change to BCs, for the past 4 or 5 months.
No.
Making highsec safer will not make the game better. It will make it even more stale and boring than it has become. What it lacks is proper conflict drivers, and common sense between highsec dwellers on safe fitting/hauling guidelines.
No.
Soccer (Football, to you Euros) is not a real sport. It is a game of actors and actresses, who flop about lacking real effort and enthusiam, until someone else bumps into them, and they are called on to make the performance of a lifetime, pretending like they are being violently murdered, in the hope of a penalty being inflicted on the other team. Soccer is a boring, slow paced game, played by pansies. Which race would win a football (soccer) match is irrelevant, because only the gallente would be silly enough to participate, and would still likely lose, with no other competitors.
No.
Ratting with drones is not harder post Retribution 1.0 in december, it is easier. Fit an ecm or RR module, activate it, and all the rats will stay focused on ships activating Ecm or RR in regular anomalies and most missions.
You're welcome. |

SniffleBum KissyLips
EVE INDUSTIAL MINING TRINITY GOLD MINER CORP INC.
9
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Posted - 2013.02.20 05:37:00 -
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Hue hue hue hue hue i like |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6898
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Posted - 2013.02.20 05:42:00 -
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No.
Ships getting blown up does not constitute an ISK sink. Something being an ISK faucet or sink has no relation to your personal wallet.
No.
Even if you mined the minerals yourself, it's not free. "Opportunity cost" is a quantity in EVE; your time is not free. For example, doing PI and ice mining to fuel your research POS is not being "smart," it's wasting your time. ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
1183
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Posted - 2013.02.20 05:43:00 -
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Arronicus wrote:You're welcome. AMERICA! If you're not already part of a bloc, this is the best guy for CSM8. |

Wescro2
New Order Logistics CODE.
16
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Posted - 2013.02.20 05:46:00 -
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No
I did not read all your OP.
No
I do not care.
No
This is a crappy format for post, use paragraphs with opening and concluding sentences. |

Tauranon
Weeesearch
127
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Posted - 2013.02.20 05:47:00 -
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Arronicus wrote:
No.
Soccer (Football, to you Euros) is not a real sport. It is a game of actors and actresses, who flop about lacking real effort and enthusiam, until someone else bumps into them, and they are called on to make the performance of a lifetime, pretending like they are being violently murdered, in the hope of a penalty being inflicted on the other team. Soccer is a boring, slow paced game, played by pansies. Which race would win a football (soccer) match is irrelevant, because only the gallente would be silly enough to participate, and would still likely lose, with no other competitors.
To be honest, all races would play soccer, however only the amarr would play in the gridiron league, and would declare one planets team as the universes champions at the end of their season, despite 3/4s of the eve universe not playing, and then 3 seasons later they'd sell the franchise to another planet, who would then pretend to have won all the championships that the franchise won throughout its history.
Oh and all the players bar the quarterbacks and one or two particularly fat linebackers would be minmatar.
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2771
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Posted - 2013.02.20 05:54:00 -
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Arronicus wrote:Soccer (Football, to you Euros) is not a real sport. It is a game of actors and actresses, who flop about lacking real effort and enthusiam, until someone else bumps into them, and they are called on to make the performance of a lifetime, pretending like they are being violently murdered, in the hope of a penalty being inflicted on the other team. Soccer is a boring, slow paced game, played by pansies. Which race would win a football (soccer) match is irrelevant, because only the gallente would be silly enough to participate, and would still likely lose, with no other competitors.
This thread is going fun places. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Jonah Gravenstein
Gordian Knot Holdings
5852
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Posted - 2013.02.20 07:08:00 -
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Arronicus wrote: Soccer (Football, to you Euros) is not a real sport. It is a game of actors and actresses, who flop about lacking real effort and enthusiam, until someone else bumps into them, and they are called on to make the performance of a lifetime, pretending like they are being violently murdered, in the hope of a penalty being inflicted on the other team. Soccer is a boring, slow paced game, played by pansies. Which race would win a football (soccer) match is irrelevant, because only the gallente would be silly enough to participate, and would still likely lose, with no other competitors.
The world outside of the US and Canada would beg to differ. Those countries have their own sports called football, so they refer to it as soccer. Pretty much everywhere else calls it Football, soccer is a derivative of Association Football, which is the game that is played internationally. While American Football (henchforth known as Handegg ) is played outside of the US it's very much a minority sport internationally.
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and everybody in it. |

Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
491
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Posted - 2013.02.20 07:12:00 -
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Australians play the real footy, we are not padded up like pansy gridiron players who look like they got space suits on  Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |

dark heartt
Space Truckers Assoc
18
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Posted - 2013.02.20 07:18:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:Australians play the real footy, we are not padded up like pansy gridiron players who look like they got space suits on 
That depends... Are you talking about AFL or rugby?
Also: IBTL |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2477
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Posted - 2013.02.20 07:24:00 -
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Wescro2 wrote:No
I do not care.
You cared enough to post. That's an amazing amount of not caring. Apparently booking your flight & accomodation to Iceland BEFORE you buy the tickets for the convention which is pretty much the only reason you wanted to go there in the first place is popular. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2477
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Posted - 2013.02.20 07:25:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:Australians play the real footy, we are not padded up like pansy gridiron players who look like they got space suits on 
Our football it's just as awful as any other similar sport. It's not about the game anymore. Apparently booking your flight & accomodation to Iceland BEFORE you buy the tickets for the convention which is pretty much the only reason you wanted to go there in the first place is popular. |

Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
491
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Posted - 2013.02.20 07:26:00 -
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dark heartt wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:Australians play the real footy, we are not padded up like pansy gridiron players who look like they got space suits on  That depends... Are you talking about AFL or rugby? Also: IBTL
Rugby, tho AFL can be rough, neither game has players that look like theyre from NASA tho.
Also IBTL too Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |

Jonah Gravenstein
Gordian Knot Holdings
5852
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Posted - 2013.02.20 07:28:00 -
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Daft question, I've seen some Aussie rules football, it looks fairly similar to Rugby and Gaelic Football, what are the differences?
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and everybody in it. |

baltec1
Bat Country
5326
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Posted - 2013.02.20 07:30:00 -
[15] - Quote
dark heartt wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:Australians play the real footy, we are not padded up like pansy gridiron players who look like they got space suits on  That depends... Are you talking about AFL or rugby? Also: IBTL
Both are more manly sports than dramaball and handegg. |

Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
235
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Posted - 2013.02.20 07:50:00 -
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Do they even have soccer in Iceland?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lxX9JnO1Nck/T3mIA67TrUI/AAAAAAAAAm0/QGphRX45Rho/s1600/tr_monkey.jpg
The locals look more like the Water Polo sort. |

DrunkenNinja
The Milkmen Test Alliance Please Ignore
104
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Posted - 2013.02.20 07:58:00 -
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he aint heavy, he's my couuuusiin |

Mon Diddies
Ascendancy. Li3 Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.02.20 08:08:00 -
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Andski wrote:No.
Ships getting blown up does not constitute an ISK sink. Something being an ISK faucet or sink has no relation to your personal wallet.
No.
Even if you mined the minerals yourself, it's not free. "Opportunity cost" is a quantity in EVE; your time is not free. For example, doing PI and ice mining to fuel your research POS is not being "smart," it's wasting your time.
I still like your idea on jabber this evening, why has it not been implemented yet.
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Ch3244
Trojan Legion Fidelas Constans
229
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Posted - 2013.02.20 08:35:00 -
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Peter Raptor wrote:Australians play the real footy, we are not padded up like pansy gridiron players who look like they got space suits on  How do you play upside down |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1004
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Posted - 2013.02.20 09:07:00 -
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Rugby Union Football is the only real football.
This is not a signature. |

RAP ACTION HERO
159
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Posted - 2013.02.20 09:16:00 -
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mistakes were made dot vitoc erryday |

Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
245
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Posted - 2013.02.21 02:07:00 -
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RAP ACTION HERO wrote: mistakes were made dot
Rap kills another productive discussion! ;_; |

Galenwade
Shrubbery Acquisitions
180
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Posted - 2013.02.21 02:19:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Rugby Union Football is the only real football.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTpXymuwxNs
nuff said
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
2827
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Posted - 2013.02.21 02:19:00 -
[24] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Arronicus wrote: Soccer (Football, to you Euros) is not a real sport. It is a game of actors and actresses, who flop about lacking real effort and enthusiam, until someone else bumps into them, and they are called on to make the performance of a lifetime, pretending like they are being violently murdered, in the hope of a penalty being inflicted on the other team. Soccer is a boring, slow paced game, played by pansies. Which race would win a football (soccer) match is irrelevant, because only the gallente would be silly enough to participate, and would still likely lose, with no other competitors.
The world outside of the US and Canada would beg to differ. Those countries have their own sports called football, so they refer to it as soccer. Pretty much everywhere else calls it Football, soccer is a derivative of Association Football, which is the game that is played internationally. While American Football (henchforth known as Handegg  ) is played outside of the US it's very much a minority sport internationally.
Sir, you are the first individual I've encountered who actually knows the origins of the term "soccer". It's amazing how many Europeans become quite upset when a lowly American educates them on the history of "their" game. It should be noted that the earliest known use of "soccer" was in England, not America.
I take exception to American football being called "handegg" unless you opt to refer to Rugby by the same term. Both are games which fall under the category of a game played on foot with a ball, hence "football" (as opposed to games played on horseback). Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement. |

John DaiSho
Applied Creations The Fendahlian Collective
89
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Posted - 2013.02.21 02:30:00 -
[25] - Quote
Arronicus wrote: Soccer (Football, to you Euros) is not a real sport. It is a game of actors and actresses, who flop about lacking real effort and enthusiam, until someone else bumps into them, and they are called on to make the performance of a lifetime, pretending like they are being violently murdered, in the hope of a penalty being inflicted on the other team. Soccer is a boring, slow paced game, played by pansies. Which race would win a football (soccer) match is irrelevant, because only the gallente would be silly enough to participate, and would still likely lose, with no other competitors.
You should stop watching how football is played in Italy. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12950
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Posted - 2013.02.21 02:30:00 -
[26] - Quote
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:I take exception to American football being called "handegg" unless you opt to refer to Rugby by the same term. Both are games which fall under the category of a game played on foot with a ball, hence "football" (as opposed to games played on horseback). GǪwhich would then also inlude hurling GÇö a proper sport that makes all forms of handegg seem like a gentle fondlefest.
Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |

Calapine
Xeno Tech Corp
188
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Posted - 2013.02.21 02:32:00 -
[27] - Quote
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
I take exception to American football being called "handegg" unless you opt to refer to Rugby by the same term. Both are games which fall under the category of a game played on foot with a ball, hence "football" (as opposed to games played on horseback).
That doesn't make sense. Actual handball is played on foot with a ball too. So...
If the only consideration were that balls are involved but not horses that would include pretty much everything! 
Pain is short, and joy is eternal. |

Ryuu Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2013.02.21 02:56:00 -
[28] - Quote
Posting in a stealth 'I'm right and you're wrong plus soccer is for pansy actors' thread Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2777
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Posted - 2013.02.21 03:04:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:I take exception to American football being called "handegg" unless you opt to refer to Rugby by the same term. Both are games which fall under the category of a game played on foot with a ball, hence "football" (as opposed to games played on horseback).
So, we calling Polo "Hoofball" now? This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
2829
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Posted - 2013.02.21 03:07:00 -
[30] - Quote
Calapine wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
I take exception to American football being called "handegg" unless you opt to refer to Rugby by the same term. Both are games which fall under the category of a game played on foot with a ball, hence "football" (as opposed to games played on horseback).
That doesn't make sense. Actual handball is played on foot with a ball too. So... If the only consideration were that balls are involved but not horses that would include pretty much everything!  At the time the term originated (13th-14th century I believe) I don't think sports were diversified enough for this to be a consideration. I'm pretty sure that at the time all of their sports involving balls (stop snickering, this isn't gradeschool) were played on a field with goals of some sort.
Of course, that would still including basketball. I dunno, I don't make this stuff up. I just share it with the class. Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement. |

Tesal
204
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Posted - 2013.02.21 03:13:00 -
[31] - Quote
This is how CAOD died. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12950
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Posted - 2013.02.21 03:13:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:I take exception to American football being called "handegg" unless you opt to refer to Rugby by the same term. Both are games which fall under the category of a game played on foot with a ball, hence "football" (as opposed to games played on horseback). So, we calling Polo "Hoofball" now? The real problem comes when we start calling employing the term skatepuck, and then realise that field skatepuck is actually football.
Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |

Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
745
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Posted - 2013.02.21 03:20:00 -
[33] - Quote
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote: Of course, that would still including basketball. I dunno, I don't make this stuff up. I just share it with the class.
Basketball wasn`t invented until the early 1900`s. Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Have a blog, if you care. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2778
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Posted - 2013.02.21 03:25:00 -
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Tippia wrote:RubyPorto wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:I take exception to American football being called "handegg" unless you opt to refer to Rugby by the same term. Both are games which fall under the category of a game played on foot with a ball, hence "football" (as opposed to games played on horseback). So, we calling Polo "Hoofball" now? The real problem comes when we start calling employing the term skatepuck, and then realise that field skatepuck is actually football.
So we need "Movement-Utensil-Object" "HoofStickBall" "SkateStickPuck" "FootStickBall"
Dang it. That last once covers Lacrosse, Field Hockey, Cricket, Baseball...
More Modifiers, STAT. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
3123
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Posted - 2013.02.21 03:29:00 -
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Arronicus wrote:No.
Eve is not an ecosystem. We, the players, are the only non-static entity. Nothing revolves around us, changes, or relies on us, that would continue to exist if we were not here.
No.
An ecosystem constitutes a landscape and all the flora and fauna that interact in that landscape. Fish, polyps and plankton in a coral reef. Trees, monkeys, birds, ants and spiders in a jungle.
No.
An ecosystem is not "us". That is an anthropocentric perspective and fails to account for everything else which is not "us".
No.
Just No.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Calapine
Xeno Tech Corp
188
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Posted - 2013.02.21 03:33:00 -
[36] - Quote
Well, humans are a part of the ecosystem though, non?
I am somewhat dismayed by lack of immatures comments here. Someone used horsies and balls in the same sentence, godammit! Has everyone but me grown up? Pain is short, and joy is eternal. |

dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep Silent Requiem
23
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Posted - 2013.02.21 03:42:00 -
[37] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Daft question, I've seen some Aussie rules football, it looks fairly similar to Rugby and Gaelic Football, what are the differences?
Between rugby and AFL, rugby is played in more or less of a line, whereas AFL is more akin to soccer in the positioning of players. Rugby is about getting over a line with the ball to score a try, whereas AFL is about kicking it through two posts to score a goal or two outer posts to score a point. Goals are 6 points.
There is a rift in Australia as to which is more skillful. I feel AFL is more skillful but rugby needs the guys to be harder. At the end of the day they are both as bad as American football for the whole handegg situation (all though AFL less so as they kick it a whole lot more).
Now what was this thread about again? |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2778
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Posted - 2013.02.21 03:44:00 -
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Calapine wrote:Well, humans are a part of the ecosystem though, n'est-ce pas?? I am somewhat dismayed by the abscence of immatures comments here. Someone used horsies and balls in the same sentence, godammit! Has everyone but me grown up? 
Because of your corp name, I present Zeno's paradox of testicular fondling:
Before a hand can travel to fondle a horse's *******, it must travel half that distance. Before it can travel half the distance it must travel 1/4 the distance, etc. This sequence goes on forever. Therefore, it seems that the original distance cannot be traveled, and equine testicular fondling is impossible. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts Hegemonous Pandorum
94
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Posted - 2013.02.21 03:54:00 -
[39] - Quote
dark heartt wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Daft question, I've seen some Aussie rules football, it looks fairly similar to Rugby and Gaelic Football, what are the differences? Between rugby and AFL, rugby is played in more or less of a line, whereas AFL is more akin to soccer in the positioning of players. Rugby is about getting over a line with the ball to score a try, whereas AFL is about kicking it through two posts to score a goal or two outer posts to score a point. Goals are 6 points. There is a rift in Australia as to which is more skillful. I feel AFL is more skillful but rugby needs the guys to be harder. At the end of the day they are both as bad as American football for the whole handegg situation (all though AFL less so as they kick it a whole lot more). Now what was this thread about again?
Aussie rules amuses me greatly when I watch it. If I am going to watch a bunch of burly, sweaty men playing a game of catch it might as well use a seemingly incomprehensible ruleset. I prefer League to Union for Rugby Football though, Union tends to be scrums and lineouts while league looks like a rucks and mauls version of touch.
Also, Soccer is terrible at a professional level. Going and watching my cousins play in their primary and intermediate games are more entertaining. I'm surprised Oscars weren't awarded for particular soccer matches I have watched.
now, onto the slightly less important things
no
There is no such thing as peacefully mining. |

Lugia3
Pirates Incorporated
268
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Posted - 2013.02.21 04:20:00 -
[40] - Quote
RubyPorto wrote:This thread is going fun places.
Mine! TM Give drones some love: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2176396&#post2176396 |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
957
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Posted - 2013.02.21 04:26:00 -
[41] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The world outside of the US and Canada would beg to differ.
... and would most likely beat the OP into a bloody smear on the sidewalk if he said it to their faces.
EvE Forum Bingo |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
3124
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Posted - 2013.02.21 04:33:00 -
[42] - Quote
Katran Luftschreck wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The world outside of the US and Canada would beg to differ. ... and would most likely beat the OP into a bloody smear on the sidewalk if he said it to their faces.
Depends, if the "World" he spoke to was English, they'd just burn down their own stadium in protest. If it was French, they'd just boo him off the field. If it was Italian, they'd fake an injury a second or so later to get the ref to send OP off field.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Felicity Love
STARKRAFT
283
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Posted - 2013.02.21 04:47:00 -
[43] - Quote
Katran Luftschreck wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The world outside of the US and Canada would beg to differ. ... and would most likely beat the OP into a bloody smear on the sidewalk if he said it to their faces.
Actually, the "bloody smear" part would involve some quality time with the lads on the hockey rink -- Eh? 
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |

kilteroff
Chillwater Ltd
0
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Posted - 2013.02.21 05:19:00 -
[44] - Quote
For the record: It's called football because the ball is a foot long. (American obviously) |

Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts Hegemonous Pandorum
94
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Posted - 2013.02.21 05:54:00 -
[45] - Quote
Mara Rinn wrote:Katran Luftschreck wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The world outside of the US and Canada would beg to differ. ... and would most likely beat the OP into a bloody smear on the sidewalk if he said it to their faces. Depends, if the "World" he spoke to was English, they'd just burn down their own stadium in protest. If it was French, they'd just boo him off the field. If it was Italian, they'd fake an injury a second or so later to get the ref to send OP off field.
I vote we allow the eastern europeans in first. Bloody smear is mild compared to what they will do. |

SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
38
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Posted - 2013.02.21 07:31:00 -
[46] - Quote
RubyPorto wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:I take exception to American football being called "handegg" unless you opt to refer to Rugby by the same term. Both are games which fall under the category of a game played on foot with a ball, hence "football" (as opposed to games played on horseback). So, we calling Polo "Hoofball" now? hoof club ball |

Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
251
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Posted - 2013.02.21 08:38:00 -
[47] - Quote
Katran Luftschreck wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The world outside of the US and Canada would beg to differ. ... and would most likely beat the OP into a bloody smear on the sidewalk if he said it to their faces.
Lean in clooooooooose to your screen.
"Soccer isn't a real sport. Soccer is warmup for ballet" |

Signal11th
The Retirement Club
901
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Posted - 2013.02.21 09:29:00 -
[48] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Arronicus wrote: Soccer (Football, to you Euros) is not a real sport. It is a game of actors and actresses, who flop about lacking real effort and enthusiam, until someone else bumps into them, and they are called on to make the performance of a lifetime, pretending like they are being violently murdered, in the hope of a penalty being inflicted on the other team. Soccer is a boring, slow paced game, played by pansies. Which race would win a football (soccer) match is irrelevant, because only the gallente would be silly enough to participate, and would still likely lose, with no other competitors.
The world outside of the US and Canada would beg to differ. Those countries have their own sports called football, so they refer to it as soccer. Pretty much everywhere else calls it Football, soccer is a derivative of Association Football, which is the game that is played internationally. While American Football (henchforth known as Handegg  ) is played outside of the US it's very much a minority sport internationally.
To be honest I'm a old 80's football fan from the UK and football is now more a theatre than a sport. Rugby is and has always been a much better sport plus they don't roll around like they have been shot usually after someone has broke an arm let alone when someone pushes them lightly.
To be honest though as an American you can really say anything about football being a pansies game when your lot are all padded up like michelen men and basketball is just like the old game of pong.
Where you yanks have got it right is ice hockey! Quality game and one I wish the UK got more involved with. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |

baltec1
Bat Country
5367
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Posted - 2013.02.21 09:56:00 -
[49] - Quote
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
I take exception to American football being called "handegg" unless you opt to refer to Rugby by the same term. Both are games which fall under the category of a game played on foot with a ball, hence "football" (as opposed to games played on horseback).
They use their hands far more than their feet and the ball looks like an egg, that why it gets called handegg. Rugby doesn't try to trick people |

Irya Boone
TIPIAKS
205
|
Posted - 2013.02.21 11:02:00 -
[50] - Quote
NO
Sandbox doesn't mean only PvP
you miss the first misconception in this game Improve C2 class WH More anos more signs ...RENAME null sec system With the name Of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It xill be awesome-á |

Propelled
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
20
|
Posted - 2013.02.21 11:21:00 -
[51] - Quote
kilteroff wrote:For the record: It's called football because the ball is a foot long. (American obviously) Wait really? I had no idea, that's pretty interesting. A foot is about 30cm right? |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2251
|
Posted - 2013.02.21 11:38:00 -
[52] - Quote
No
GD doesn't care about your OP and wants to talk about something else instead. |

Tialano Utrigas
Critical Mass Inc. Nexus Fleet
7
|
Posted - 2013.02.21 11:47:00 -
[53] - Quote
Yes
Mined minerals are free because i'm not f**king paying for them!! If i get given vegetable seeds and plant them...then the f**king carrots are free.
The fact I could be doing something else with my time to allow me to buy carrots is irrelevent.
I get given a Venture I mine the ore That ore didnt cost me ****!

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Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
253
|
Posted - 2013.02.21 12:59:00 -
[54] - Quote
Tialano Utrigas wrote:Yes Mined minerals are free because i'm not f**king paying for them!! If i get given vegetable seeds and plant them...then the f**king carrots are free. The fact I could be doing something else with my time to allow me to buy carrots is irrelevent. I get given a Venture I mine the ore That ore didnt cost me ****! 
Relevant insights belong in market discussion as well, where everyone can benefit from them! |

Felicity Love
STARKRAFT
285
|
Posted - 2013.02.21 13:17:00 -
[55] - Quote
Signal11th wrote:
Where you yanks have got it right is ice hockey! Quality game and one I wish the UK got more involved with.
Yanks? Check your map, lad. 
Come spend some time in the "Great White North", on a frozen lake in the middle of winter, and we'll show you how it's really played. Fresh bodies on the ice are always welcome.
Oh, and bring spare teeth. First thing to go is usually the teeth. 
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |

Davith en Divalone
Plate of Beans Incorporated
81
|
Posted - 2013.02.21 15:13:00 -
[56] - Quote
Op reminds me of this song.
Or is it this one? |

LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
415
|
Posted - 2013.02.21 15:46:00 -
[57] - Quote
Arronicus wrote: Eve is not an ecosystem. We, the players, are the only non-static entity. Nothing revolves around us, changes, or relies on us, that would continue to exist if we were not here.
Ecosystem: a system formed by the interaction of a community of organisms with their environment.
EVE is an ecosystem of player (organisms) interacting with each other and their environment (game mechanics). My problem with the "EVE is an ecosystem" thread was it's assertion that the ecosystem is sick because high sec is too safe and the rewards are too high, and the proposed solution to the illness (nerf high sec while making it more dangerous.
I believe the issue remains, as it has been, in the mind set of the PVPers that think they can dictate play style onto others.
EVE can have different areas of the game, with different rule sets, that accommodate various play styles.
I've never been opposed to, say, buffing the mineral yield of low/null ores. For example, make basic veld in high sec, make condensed produce 2x as much trit instead of 1.1x as much, then put it only in low. Have Dense produce 4x as much trit, and only be in null. The result, of course, would be to increase mineral production from low/null pushing down prices and being a stealth nerf to high sec miners.
However, I'm STRONGLY opposed to making high sec a more dangerous place, and am in favor of any additional changes needed to keep high sec a safe place for the carebears and causal players. You can not force carebears to live in a more dangerous EVE. All you can do is force them to quit, and despite what some may say, that helps no one.
Arronicus wrote: Making highsec safer will not make the game better. It will make it even more stale and boring than it has become. What it lacks is proper conflict drivers, and common sense between highsec dwellers on safe fitting/hauling guidelines.
Disagree. There is no reason not to keep/make high sec safe for carebears. Any conflict drivers should be focused on creating conflict between players that enjoy the conflict aspects of the game, leaving in place, the non-hostile conflict drivers for those not interested in conflict.
Arronicus wrote: Ratting with drones is not harder post Retribution 1.0 in december, it is easier. Fit an ecm or RR module, activate it, and all the rats will stay focused on ships activating Ecm or RR in regular anomalies and most missions.
I've moved to missioning with two toons perma cross RRing shield to each other. On initial spawn of each wave, the rats will still engage my drones, killing them before I've had a chance to get them back into my ship. Yes, once I get the aggro off the drones, it does not switch back to the drones. However, for that time between spawn and drones getting back in the bay, they do, in fact, get shot.
Also, giving up a high for ECM or RR does in fact, lower DPS, making ratting "more difficult". |

Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1161
|
Posted - 2013.02.21 16:12:00 -
[58] - Quote
No.
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Amirite?? "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." -á --- Sorlac |

Signal11th
The Retirement Club
902
|
Posted - 2013.02.21 16:46:00 -
[59] - Quote
Felicity Love wrote:Signal11th wrote:
Where you yanks have got it right is ice hockey! Quality game and one I wish the UK got more involved with.
Yanks? Check your map, lad.  Come spend some time in the "Great White North", on a frozen lake in the middle of winter, and we'll show you how it's really played. Fresh bodies on the ice are always welcome. Oh, and bring spare teeth. First thing to go is usually the teeth. 
My apologies, As I've actually been to Canada lots more times than the USA I should have known better. In fact one of my wishes came true in Edmonton watching them play NJ Devils (although I was there to watch NJ Devils not Edmonton, :-) ) plus it was dirt cheap as well 30 bucks or something like that. Even better to watch it live than on the TV. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |

CMD Ishikawa
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
|
Posted - 2013.02.21 17:04:00 -
[60] - Quote
Katran Luftschreck wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:The world outside of the US and Canada would beg to differ. ... and would most likely beat the OP into a bloody smear on the sidewalk if he said it to their faces.
Yes, incude some dismembering.
Never undesrtood why people likes soccer that much, I get bored most of the time.
I prefer to play with little internet spaceships ... =P |

Google Voices
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
54
|
Posted - 2013.02.21 17:06:00 -
[61] - Quote
Look, another person who thinks he knows how the game works, and can dictate how other people play.....how cute....
And lol, at having to fit a special module, just to use drones....How many other weapons system require that? "Fozzie could not comment on when this issue would be resolved and stated that GÇ£one day Veritas will come up to me and say GÇÿhey I fixed off-grid boostingGÇÖGÇ¥, but he had no idea on a potential timeframe for this sort of miracle." |

Random Majere
Epsilon Lyr Nulli Secunda
61
|
Posted - 2013.02.21 17:20:00 -
[62] - Quote
Felicity Love wrote:Signal11th wrote:
Where you yanks have got it right is ice hockey! Quality game and one I wish the UK got more involved with.
Yanks? Check your map, lad.  Come spend some time in the "Great White North", on a frozen lake in the middle of winter, and we'll show you how it's really played. Fresh bodies on the ice are always welcome. Oh, and bring spare teeth. First thing to go is usually the teeth. 
I usually remove my teeths before playing Hockey...And I never forget to wear a jockstrap. |

Jita iswhereIsit
University of Caille Gallente Federation
21
|
Posted - 2013.02.21 17:25:00 -
[63] - Quote
Arronicus wrote:
Soccer (Football, to you Euros) is not a real sport. It is a game of actors and actresses, who flop about lacking real effort and enthusiam, until someone else bumps into them, and they are called on to make the performance of a lifetime, pretending like they are being violently murdered, in the hope of a penalty being inflicted on the other team. Soccer is a boring, slow paced game, played by pansies. Which race would win a football (soccer) match is irrelevant, because only the gallente would be silly enough to participate, and would still likely lose, with no other competitors.
Football is known as football in every non american country around the world. It's a little ironic you would refer to it as a "slow paced game" that is played by "pansies" yet american hand-egg players wear mountains of body armor and have long breaks every few seconds to essentially play a bad version of rugby.
Geez no wonder you were kicked out of ethereal dawn for being an ass. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2788
|
Posted - 2013.02.21 18:16:00 -
[64] - Quote
Ginger Barbarella wrote:No.
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Amirite??
Totes to the motes. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Jonah Gravenstein
Universal Corporate Repossession Inc.
5893
|
Posted - 2013.02.21 18:56:00 -
[65] - Quote
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote: Sir, you are the first individual I've encountered who actually knows the origins of the term "soccer". It's amazing how many Europeans become quite upset when a lowly American educates them on the history of "their" game. It should be noted that the earliest known use of "soccer" was in England, not America.
I take exception to American football being called "handegg" unless you opt to refer to Rugby by the same term. Both are games which fall under the category of a game played on foot with a ball, hence "football" (as opposed to games played on horseback).
The funniest thing is that I flatly refuse to watch professional level Football, it's not a particularly entertaining sport at that level, amateur games are much more entertaining, with less drama queens.
Give me Rugby and Ice Hockey any day of the week, I've played both at a relatively high level (county and local teams) and enjoyed them immensely. When they closed our local ice rink and hockey team down a few team members and I switched to inline roller hockey, and promptly got banned for being too aggressive, turned out body checking is not a legitimate tactic even though they like to call it a full contact sport.
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and everybody in it. |

Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
257
|
Posted - 2013.02.21 21:11:00 -
[66] - Quote
Jita iswhereIsit wrote:
Geez no wonder you were kicked out of ethereal dawn for being an ass.
Hahaha, who fed you that one? Did someone seriously say I was kicked? I remember they wanted to kick me for shooting goons in Burn Jita, and they wanted to kick me, for shooting neutrals, who were blue a week or two later, because they were too stupid to check the players corp history, and see that he was neutral when I killed him. They were pretty freaking butthurt about that. They were also butthurt because I left bpinc 'without saying goodbye' (Some period of time previously). Apparently making a big fuss in corp when you leave a corp is preferable? Infact, the last time I left ED, I forgot a couple toons BLHI, and had to come remove them some 4-6 months later, because no, I was not kicked. But if that's what your friends are telling you, I'm laughing my ass off. This makes the entire thread worth it. Well, aside from all the soccer tears.
PS. Clerence Thomas is pretty damn alright. I'm pretty sure if you talk to him, (he was my CEO while in ED last) he will confirm to you that you've been fed a load of bull. Don't take my word for it, take his. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
2286
|
Posted - 2013.02.21 21:36:00 -
[67] - Quote
SniffleBum KissyLips wrote:Hue hue hue hue hue
No. Just no.
CCP, ban this before it takes over like that Harlem shake thing. Please put the word 'hue' into the filter until this blows over.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

SUPER J0SH
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
6
|
Posted - 2013.02.21 22:36:00 -
[68] - Quote
So would golf be CartClubBall or FootClubBall? not everyone uses a golfcart
and how would that be different from the aformentioned field hockey as FootClubBall?
perhaps another modifier for where to put the ball, making it FootClubBallHole vs FootClubBallNet?
but then what's the difference between Golf and Pool? or would Pool be FootStickBallHole?
jeez I'm confused
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2789
|
Posted - 2013.02.21 22:41:00 -
[69] - Quote
Mr Epeen wrote:SniffleBum KissyLips wrote:Hue hue hue hue hue No. Just no. CCP, ban this before it takes over like that Harlem shake thing. Please put the word 'hue' into the filter until this blows over. Mr Epeen 
Look at this marvelous hue. I've never seen a hue quite like this hue. Where did you get this hue, Hugh? Did you hew through the outback to get this hue from a rare spot? This hue should go anywhere a hue can go. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Kamden Line
Sovereign Citizen and other Tax Evasion Schemes
131
|
Posted - 2013.02.22 03:22:00 -
[70] - Quote
That's Japan you monkey. |

Markatta
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
6
|
Posted - 2013.02.22 04:00:00 -
[71] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Rugby doesn't try to trick people  I don't see no rugs.  |

General Nusense
Not Posting With My Main
39
|
Posted - 2013.02.22 06:18:00 -
[72] - Quote
Arronicus wrote:No.
Eve is not an ecosystem. We, the players, are the only non-static entity. Nothing revolves around us, changes, or relies on us, that would continue to exist if we were not here.
No.
Tiercide was not a nerf. Most of the ships got buffed, new ship roles got added for ships that didn't otherwise have them, and even in the case of the drake, dps for properly skilled players increased.
No.
The mineral changes in the tiercide were not snuck in. They have been known about for months, some of us have been planning for the mineral change to BCs, for the past 4 or 5 months.
No.
Making highsec safer will not make the game better. It will make it even more stale and boring than it has become. What it lacks is proper conflict drivers, and common sense between highsec dwellers on safe fitting/hauling guidelines.
No.
Soccer (Football, to you Euros) is not a real sport. It is a game of actors and actresses, who flop about lacking real effort and enthusiam, until someone else bumps into them, and they are called on to make the performance of a lifetime, pretending like they are being violently murdered, in the hope of a penalty being inflicted on the other team. Soccer is a boring, slow paced game, played by pansies. Which race would win a football (soccer) match is irrelevant, because only the gallente would be silly enough to participate, and would still likely lose, with no other competitors.
No.
Ratting with drones is not harder post Retribution 1.0 in december, it is easier. Fit an ecm or RR module, activate it, and all the rats will stay focused on ships activating Ecm or RR in regular anomalies and most missions.
You're welcome.
How much do you guys charge for Titans? I was wondering because you are in PLs super building alt corp.
|

Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts Hegemonous Pandorum
98
|
Posted - 2013.02.22 06:43:00 -
[73] - Quote
Markatta wrote:baltec1 wrote:Rugby doesn't try to trick people  I don't see no rugs. 
Obviously you haven't seen what about a third of the field sports around their chins.
http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2007/10/11/va1237271482414/Sebastien-Chabal-5696634.jpg
Though the actual answer is that the name is derived from the school who first played it which was Rugby school. They're a bunch of toffs but they managed to come up with a good game. |

Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
257
|
Posted - 2013.02.22 09:33:00 -
[74] - Quote
General Nusense wrote:Arronicus wrote:No.
Eve is not an ecosystem. We, the players, are the only non-static entity. Nothing revolves around us, changes, or relies on us, that would continue to exist if we were not here.
No.
Tiercide was not a nerf. Most of the ships got buffed, new ship roles got added for ships that didn't otherwise have them, and even in the case of the drake, dps for properly skilled players increased.
No.
The mineral changes in the tiercide were not snuck in. They have been known about for months, some of us have been planning for the mineral change to BCs, for the past 4 or 5 months.
No.
Making highsec safer will not make the game better. It will make it even more stale and boring than it has become. What it lacks is proper conflict drivers, and common sense between highsec dwellers on safe fitting/hauling guidelines.
No.
Soccer (Football, to you Euros) is not a real sport. It is a game of actors and actresses, who flop about lacking real effort and enthusiam, until someone else bumps into them, and they are called on to make the performance of a lifetime, pretending like they are being violently murdered, in the hope of a penalty being inflicted on the other team. Soccer is a boring, slow paced game, played by pansies. Which race would win a football (soccer) match is irrelevant, because only the gallente would be silly enough to participate, and would still likely lose, with no other competitors.
No.
Ratting with drones is not harder post Retribution 1.0 in december, it is easier. Fit an ecm or RR module, activate it, and all the rats will stay focused on ships activating Ecm or RR in regular anomalies and most missions.
You're welcome. How much do you guys charge for Titans? I was wondering because you are in PLs super building alt corp.
Your best bet is to send the corp CEO a mail ingame. He'll be better able to provide quotes. |

Arronicus
Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made.
257
|
Posted - 2013.02.22 09:34:00 -
[75] - Quote
I'm just going to point out that I stared at his beard for quite some time, trying to spot what was hidden inside it, before I realized you meant that his beard was a rug. 1:30am isn't good for my thinking. |

Fearghaz Tiwas
ZOMBIEBEACHPARTYPATROL Circle-Of-Two
4
|
Posted - 2013.02.22 14:15:00 -
[76] - Quote
As someone who has played football, american football and rugby, and has an admiration for hurling and ice hockey I dont get why people have to put the other down.
Football is the most popular sport in the world, regardless of whether its played by pansies or not. It's not just about how big/fast/far you can kick/throw something.
Rugby is hard, and brutal. Played by men, but requires nowhere near the technique required for football.
American football is not just rugger in pads. That analogy actually quite annoys me, but thats probs cause I hear it all the time. I prefer it to rugby because of the playcalling/strategy of it, and the sheer force of the hits. Saying that, it is the easiest to play if you have no talent at all.
As much as i admire hurling and ice hockey, I lack the testicular fortitude to take part in these sports. Throw gaelic and aussie rules in here too. Great sports, but the players must be bloody nutters |

Markatta
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
6
|
Posted - 2013.02.22 19:00:00 -
[77] - Quote
That's fine and all, but what about womens' rugby? Got any pictures for that?
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