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Esteban Dragonovic
Odyssey Inc
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
16
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:11:00 -
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Tax highsec income for the saftey provided by concord in high security space.
-Creates a new isk sink.
-Incourages exploration out into less safe areas for "tax free" income.
-Provides an excellent and logical balance for the low risk in highsec.
I'm fairly certain this has been proposed before and it is probably the best option there is.
*Que the rabbit highsec masses entering a critical mass of carebear rage* |
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
782
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:15:00 -
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Please see this here for the proper forum. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
2283
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:17:00 -
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Esteban Dragonovic wrote:Tax highsec income for the saftey provided by concord in high security space.
-Creates a new isk sink.
-Incourages exploration out into less safe areas for "tax free" income.
-Provides an excellent and logical balance for the low risk in highsec.
I'm fairly certain this has been proposed before and it is probably the best option there is.
*Que the rabbit highsec masses entering a critical mass of carebear rage*
That's some serious one dimensional thinking.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade
The East India Co.
1007
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:17:00 -
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Esteban Dragonovic wrote:Tax highsec income for the saftey provided by concord in high security space.
-Creates a new isk sink.
-Incourages exploration out into less safe areas for "tax free" income.
-Provides an excellent and logical balance for the low risk in highsec.
I'm fairly certain this has been proposed before and it is probably the best option there is.
*Que the rabbit highsec masses entering a critical mass of carebear rage*
tl;dr: CCP Punish people who don't play my way and won't come out where I can kill them easily.
The Margin Trading Scam: If you fell for it, it's your own damned fault.
Malcanis for CSM 8
Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |
Shadow Lord77
Shadow Industries I
147
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:24:00 -
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Concord should also periodically explode ships in high sec, I too believe that this will cause people to either unsubscribe or travel to Low-Sec areas. |
Esteban Dragonovic
Odyssey Inc
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
16
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:24:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:Esteban Dragonovic wrote:Tax highsec income for the saftey provided by concord in high security space.
-Creates a new isk sink.
-Incourages exploration out into less safe areas for "tax free" income.
-Provides an excellent and logical balance for the low risk in highsec.
I'm fairly certain this has been proposed before and it is probably the best option there is.
*Que the rabbit highsec masses entering a critical mass of carebear rage* tl;dr: CCP Punish people who don't play my way and won't come out where I can kill them easily.
I fly logistics ships, kinda hard to kill things with armor reppers. :V |
Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
1197
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:28:00 -
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Shadow Lord77 wrote:Concord should also periodically explode ships in high sec
tbh this is the probably the best and easiest way I've seen so far of balancing risk vs. reward in high-sec, just having **** randomly explode...
If you're not already part of a bloc, this is the best guy for CSM8. |
Yuki Shin-Jan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:29:00 -
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I'll just create a one man corp alt to do all my buying/selling through which never leaves the station. Besides, the NPC corp has a 11% tax rate is fair enough for concord which doesn't even prevent people from getting ganked. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
774
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:31:00 -
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Shadow Lord77 wrote:Concord should also periodically explode ships in high sec, I too believe that this will cause people to either unsubscribe or travel to Low-Sec areas.
I vote for this, merely for the hilarity of it.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
2282
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:35:00 -
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I think Highsec can be balanced by once a month having all of CCP rampage through all highsec systems and randomly destroy ships. 40 Enigmas decend on an icebelt and WTFBBQ all miners... Random Jove Battleships pilotted by the best pilots CCP can muster rain death on the Jita undock, Concord randomly goes haywire and thinks everything is a crime, Random missions spawn Incursion strength/AI rats, the fun can go on and on.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Esteban Dragonovic
Odyssey Inc
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
16
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:35:00 -
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Yuki Shin-Jan wrote:I'll just create a one man corp alt to do all my buying/selling through which never leaves the station. Besides, the NPC corp has a 11% tax rate is fair enough for concord which doesn't even prevent people from getting ganked.
This would not be something dictated by what corporation you would be in, it would be a basic tax levied across isk making activites in highsec, ie bounties, mission payouts, refining, and incursion payouts. |
Joran Dravius
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
116
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:48:00 -
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Esteban Dragonovic wrote:Tax highsec income for the saftey provided by concord in high security space.
-Creates a new isk sink.
-Incourages exploration out into less safe areas for "tax free" income.
-Provides an excellent and logical balance for the low risk in highsec.
I'm fairly certain this has been proposed before and it is probably the best option there is.
*Que the rabbid highsec masses entering a critical mass of carebear rage*
They did say they needed a new ISK sink. I say leave level 1 and 2 missions alone. No reason to hurt the newbies. Tax level 3 and 4 missions 60% to encourage older players to put their big boy pants on and move out of their parents' house. |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
777
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:50:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I think Highsec can be balanced by once a month having all of CCP rampage through all highsec systems and randomly destroy ships. 40 Enigmas decend on an icebelt and WTFBBQ all miners... Random Jove Battleships pilotted by the best pilots CCP can muster rain death on the Jita undock, Concord randomly goes haywire and thinks everything is a crime, Random missions spawn Incursion strength/AI rats, the fun can go on and on.
Just run a lottery on all uninsured ships. One in 100 (or 1000 or whatever) develop a fatal "maintenance fault."
BOOM.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1626
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:49:00 -
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Esteban Dragonovic wrote:Yuki Shin-Jan wrote:I'll just create a one man corp alt to do all my buying/selling through which never leaves the station. Besides, the NPC corp has a 11% tax rate is fair enough for concord which doesn't even prevent people from getting ganked. This would not be something dictated by what corporation you would be in, it would be a basic tax levied across isk making activites in highsec, ie bounties, mission payouts, refining, and incursion payouts.
Rat bounties are lower as the rats are smaller in high sec than low sec.
Mission payouts are already less in high sec than low sec, effectively a tax.
Incursion payouts are already lower in high sec than low sec, effectively a tax.
PI exporting is taxed in high sec at a higher rate than low sec, at least if you got access to the right POCO.
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Artimis Scout
Wormhole Cartography
10
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Posted - 2013.02.20 21:11:00 -
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Every ISK I make in hi-sec generates another null sec tear. They taste so sweet. |
Tesal
204
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Posted - 2013.02.20 21:28:00 -
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Esteban Dragonovic wrote:Tax highsec income for the saftey provided by concord in high security space.
-Creates a new isk sink.
-Incourages exploration out into less safe areas for "tax free" income.
-Provides an excellent and logical balance for the low risk in highsec.
I'm fairly certain this has been proposed before and it is probably the best option there is.
*Que the rabbid highsec masses entering a critical mass of carebear rage*
This is clearly a well thought out post.
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Google Voices
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2013.02.20 21:36:00 -
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Why are people so worried about people staying in highsec?
Have you really played the game long enough to have an opinion, and still do not understand that people prefer to make their own choices?
Do you also have this issue in real life?
"Fozzie could not comment on when this issue would be resolved and stated that GÇ£one day Veritas will come up to me and say GÇÿhey I fixed off-grid boostingGÇÖGÇ¥, but he had no idea on a potential timeframe for this sort of miracle." |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
3993
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Posted - 2013.02.21 00:19:00 -
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Yuki Shin-Jan wrote:concord which doesn't even prevent people from getting ganked.
Of course it does.
Malcanis for CSM 8
Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Bane Veradun
Black Sun Dawning
1
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Posted - 2013.02.21 00:23:00 -
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Esteban Dragonovic wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:Esteban Dragonovic wrote:Tax highsec income for the saftey provided by concord in high security space.
-Creates a new isk sink.
-Incourages exploration out into less safe areas for "tax free" income.
-Provides an excellent and logical balance for the low risk in highsec.
I'm fairly certain this has been proposed before and it is probably the best option there is.
*Que the rabbit highsec masses entering a critical mass of carebear rage* tl;dr: CCP Punish people who don't play my way and won't come out where I can kill them easily. I fly logistics ships, kinda hard to kill things with armor reppers. :V
Murder by proxy then. Either way, your ideas are ancient in respect to the game.
While you only co-opt the darkness for your petty purposes, I was borne of the darkness. |
Bane Veradun
Black Sun Dawning
1
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Posted - 2013.02.21 00:27:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I think Highsec can be balanced by once a month having all of CCP rampage through all highsec systems and randomly destroy ships. 40 Enigmas decend on an icebelt and WTFBBQ all miners... Random Jove Battleships pilotted by the best pilots CCP can muster rain death on the Jita undock, Concord randomly goes haywire and thinks everything is a crime, Random missions spawn Incursion strength/AI rats, the fun can go on and on.
So in other words, just break the game to amuse yourself, yes? Violate the very nature of New Eden because it needs a balance. Tell you what, I will agree to the above as long as it sweeps across every star system in game. That's fair, yes?
While you only co-opt the darkness for your petty purposes, I was borne of the darkness. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
603
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Posted - 2013.02.21 00:31:00 -
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Gate guns in high sec should also and randomly become wacco, shoot at everyone and firepower increase with time at the point freighters would get insta pop and POSes self destruct with fear.
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Styth spiting
Ion Corp.
NightSong Directorate
287
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Posted - 2013.02.21 00:33:00 -
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Esteban Dragonovic wrote:Tax highsec income for the saftey provided by concord in high security space.
-Creates a new isk sink.
-Incourages exploration out into less safe areas for "tax free" income.
-Provides an excellent and logical balance for the low risk in highsec.
I'm fairly certain this has been proposed before and it is probably the best option there is.
*Que the rabbid highsec masses entering a critical mass of carebear rage*
Taxing high sec income I'm assuming you mean ratting or mining? Because selling items, buying items, PI, refining (if standings are not high enough), researching, manufacturing, corp hangars, if you're safe in a NPC corp are all ready taxed.
A tax would simply decrease the amount of risk/reward a player would receive which is how it all ready is setup. Decreasing the reward to risk value wouldn't change anything as the market would simply change to reflect this.
Nullsec should be taxed and things should be done to move players out of null to WH space. Null has far less risk to reward and has far more carebares these days then highsec. |
Kathern Aurilen
27
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Posted - 2013.02.21 01:44:00 -
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silens vesica wrote:Shadow Lord77 wrote:Concord should also periodically explode ships in high sec, I too believe that this will cause people to either unsubscribe or travel to Low-Sec areas. I vote for this, merely for the hilarity of it. I think it would also be DA FUNNY if ships were pulled over on the side of the space lanes with the engine hood open cause the broke down or ran outta gas cause they didn't fuel up before leaving dock
Ba-ba-blam, victory dance, in yo pants :P
Forum alt, unskilled in the was of pewpew! |
Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
251
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Posted - 2013.02.21 02:04:00 -
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President Obama, you play Eve too?
No good deed goes unpunished |
Felicity Love
STARKRAFT
283
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Posted - 2013.02.21 04:52:00 -
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Esteban Dragonovic wrote:Tax highsec income for the saftey provided by concord in high security space.
-Creates a new isk sink.
-Incourages exploration out into less safe areas for "tax free" income.
-Provides an excellent and logical balance for the low risk in highsec.
I'm fairly certain this has been proposed before and it is probably the best option there is.
*Que the rabbid highsec masses entering a critical mass of carebear rage*
Except for one teesy-weesny fact: if you're clever enough you can avoid paying taxes altogether and it really doesn't matter what part of space you're in. It's difficult, yes, but doable.
Good luck puzzling that one out. 
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion
Of Mordor
105
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Posted - 2013.02.21 06:53:00 -
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Screw the Taxes. End free hanger space and replace it with limited number of year long leases that can be sub-leased in monthly contract auctions.
Supply and demand will force the riff raff out of the high rent systems into unused areas. Spread the love man.  |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
957
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Posted - 2013.02.21 06:59:00 -
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Every newbie corp pays 11% ... and everyone pays sales tax and brokers frees to the SCC, which just happens to be a subdivision of CONCORD. I dare say that they are rather well funded and that people pay them plenty as it is.
Please stop trying to find logic to your endless parade of "nerf hisec" threads - there isn't any. Spite is not logic.
EvE Forum Bingo |
dark heartt
I Own Four Sheep
Silent Requiem
24
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Posted - 2013.02.21 07:18:00 -
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Esteban Dragonovic wrote:Tax highsec income for the saftey provided by concord in high security space.
-Creates a new isk sink.
-Incourages exploration out into less safe areas for "tax free" income.
-Provides an excellent and logical balance for the low risk in highsec.
I'm fairly certain this has been proposed before and it is probably the best option there is.
*Que the rabbid highsec masses entering a critical mass of carebear rage*
I've played in Null and Low sec space and I have been beating the Eve should be harsh drum for the last month or so pretty hard, and even I think this is a TERRIBLE idea. The fact is that CCP will never do this as the mass unsub would hurt the bottom line. People who say high sec needs to be nerfed don't live there. The people who say null needs to be nerfed don't live there. You are saying things that help you in some way shape or form. There is no need for a tax, there is a need to fix the way null sec money is made. At the moment there is no real pull out to null for people other than PVP (please note this is my opinion from what I have seen from talking to people) and a lot of the people in high sec aren't interested in that. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
5469
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Posted - 2013.02.21 07:36:00 -
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Oh no, not the 'Tax Man' crap again.
DMC |
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GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
446
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Posted - 2013.02.21 07:44:00 -
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the factions should charge all hisec residents rent, and if you don't pay on time they keep calling your home until you pay up
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