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kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:46:00 -
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I have been out of the game for a few years and I donGÇÖt fully understand what an incursion dose to a system. I do know that I lost 3 hulks do to my ignorance and almost my Orca, do to the fact that the rats in the belts were not the normal rats I was use to. I have accepted the fact that I have to deal with greefers and other people that are looking for a fight in high sec.. I worked my concord faction to lower this problem. I have accepted that fact that if I want to build anything that I must pay a high price for low sec. ore. I have no want to pvp or have to deal with low sec. rats in my belts in high sec. I have 4 account (costing me 60$ us ) so me and my sons can play together and all we do is mine and mission. And it is bowling my mind that CCP would cater so much to pvp player or player that r to chicken ___t to move to low sec. and play that they bring low sec to high sec for them. I would love to see the # of account that are not active just because CCP dose not realize that not everyone wants this kind of game play.  |

Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
256
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:53:00 -
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http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Incursion
move to another system for a few days
better yet, buy an incursion fit battleship and join one of the incursion fleets and make some isk. it's essentially group missioning / raiding.
yes it makes the belts unuseable.. too bad :P |

Jonah Gravenstein
Gordian Knot Holdings
5877
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Posted - 2013.02.20 18:56:00 -
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Incursions aren't PvP content, they're PvE content. Basically Sansha NPCs invade a constellation, plunder the planets for unwilling recruits and take on all comers in a fight. Depending on the level of control they have you'll find your ships tank is reduced and your damage output is reduced, mission rewards are also reduced.
They do all types of damage and hit hard, the only NPCs that are anywhere near as nasty live in wormholes, mining in an incursion system is not advised unless you're using a Skiff, even then you have to be careful.
TL;DR if you're in an incursion system, expect to explode in a PvE fitted ship.
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and everybody in it. |

kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:10:00 -
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Chandaris wrote:http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Incursion
move to another constellation for a few days
better yet, buy an incursion fit battleship and join one of the incursion fleets and make some isk. it's essentially group missioning / raiding.
yes it makes the belts mostly unuseable.. too bad :P ..
That is my point Why should i have to move, not that we dont at time for more ore. And why should i be forced to play in this manner when i dont want to: if i want to raid witch i have done in other games i would have stayed playing them and spent my 60$ some were else |

Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
275
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:13:00 -
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Op don't worry CCP will remove random for ya i am absolutely positive about that. Leeloo Dallas Multipass - "Big bada boom"
http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rbmgtGx.jpg Ninja over Black-ops. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Gordian Knot Holdings
5877
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:13:00 -
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You don't have to move, but you are advised to. The incursions occur randomly and are by no means anything like a raid.
On that note, I'm leaving this thread before it gets stomped all over by people who actually understand Eve, unlike the OP.
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and everybody in it. |

kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:15:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Incursions aren't PvP content, they're PvE content. Basically Sansha NPCs invade a constellation, plunder the planets for unwilling recruits and take on all comers in a fight. Depending on the level of control they have you'll find your ships tank is reduced and your damage output is reduced, mission rewards are also reduced.
They do all types of damage and hit hard, the only NPCs that are anywhere near as nasty live in wormholes, mining in an incursion system is not advised unless you're using a Skiff, even then you have to be careful.
TL;DR if you're in an incursion system, expect to explode in a PvE fitted ship.
Thank you for your explation of an incursion, and i understand that it is other player can do what ever they want, they pay to play the same as i do but ccp pop my ships in .7 space not a npc and that is my problem |

Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
256
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:15:00 -
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kinadyan wrote:That is my point Why should i have to move, not that we dont at time for more ore. And why should i be forced to play in this manner when i dont want to: if i want to raid witch i have done in other games i would have stayed playing them and spent my 60$ some were else
This is EVE. Adapt or die.
Incursions are a very good thing for highsec, and are very popular, and even *gasp* fun to do. They are not going anywhere,
Either join them, and run it (and make way more money than you will mining), move to another constellation until it's gone (usually 5-7 days) or logoff and do something else until it's gone. but for the love of god don't fill this thread with whine and butthurt about it :P |

Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
256
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:19:00 -
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I will add: you logged in, heard the eerie music, saw the green background and all the warnings and wierd icons on the left. undocked your stuff and warped to belt anyways when a simple google search or asking anyone in game would have saved you.l
there is no excuse. there is no 'safe' space in EVE. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Gordian Knot Holdings
5877
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:23:00 -
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kinadyan wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Incursions aren't PvP content, they're PvE content. Basically Sansha NPCs invade a constellation, plunder the planets for unwilling recruits and take on all comers in a fight. Depending on the level of control they have you'll find your ships tank is reduced and your damage output is reduced, mission rewards are also reduced.
They do all types of damage and hit hard, the only NPCs that are anywhere near as nasty live in wormholes, mining in an incursion system is not advised unless you're using a Skiff, even then you have to be careful.
TL;DR if you're in an incursion system, expect to explode in a PvE fitted ship. Thank you for your explation of an incursion, and i understand that it is other player can do what ever they want, they pay to play the same as i do but ccp pop my ships in .7 space not a npc and that is my problem
That's just the point, it's not other players or CCP that popped your ships, it was in fact NPCs, just not the ones you're used to. Incursion NPCs have a very nasty and devious AI that is vastly removed from that of the other 90% of NPCs in the game. They're about as close to other players as an AI can get in a game.
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and everybody in it. |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
1401
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:25:00 -
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kinadyan wrote: I have been out of the game for a few years and I donGÇÖt fully understand what an incursion dose to a system. I do know that I lost 3 hulks do to my ignorance and almost my Orca, do to the fact that the rats in the belts were not the normal rats I was use to. I have accepted the fact that I have to deal with greefers and other people that are looking for a fight in high sec.. I worked my concord faction to lower this problem. I have accepted that fact that if I want to build anything that I must pay a high price for low sec. ore. I have no want to pvp or have to deal with low sec. rats in my belts in high sec. I have 4 account (costing me 60$ us ) so me and my sons can play together and all we do is mine and mission. And it is bowling my mind that CCP would cater so much to pvp player or player that r to chicken ___t to move to low sec. and play that they bring low sec to high sec for them. I would love to see the # of account that are not active just because CCP dose not realize that not everyone wants this kind of game play. 
Gold
Pure, freaking unadulterated GOLD this post is.
When someone asks "hey, why all the hate for High sec and miners etc etc", i'ma just link this post and move on.
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Obvious Cyno
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:28:00 -
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kinadyan wrote: I have been out of the game for a few years and I donGÇÖt fully understand what an incursion dose to a system. I do know that I lost 3 hulks do to my ignorance and almost my Orca, do to the fact that the rats in the belts were not the normal rats I was use to. I have accepted the fact that I have to deal with greefers and other people that are looking for a fight in high sec.. I worked my concord faction to lower this problem. I have accepted that fact that if I want to build anything that I must pay a high price for low sec. ore. I have no want to pvp or have to deal with low sec. rats in my belts in high sec. I have 4 account (costing me 60$ us ) so me and my sons can play together and all we do is mine and mission. And it is bowling my mind that CCP would cater so much to pvp player or player that r to chicken ___t to move to low sec. and play that they bring low sec to high sec for them. I would love to see the # of account that are not active just because CCP dose not realize that not everyone wants this kind of game play. 
Yeah uh.. in 0.0 and lowsec the rats point you and blow up your shiny battleship just for jumping gates in incursion system. I'd day the big blue/red bar at the top is a big hint not to mine in that particular system.
Sorry you can't Play afk online in incursion belts. |

kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:30:00 -
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Chandaris wrote:I will add: you logged in, heard the eerie music, saw the green background and all the warnings and wierd icons on the left. undocked your stuff and warped to belt anyways when a simple google search or asking anyone in game would have saved you.l
there is no excuse. there is no 'safe' space in EVE.
1 not everyone find the same things fun. i raid for over 8 years in other game and dont realy want to do that anymore. 2 if you dont know the meen of somthing you should ask true and i did with no respon in genal chat it was not till i picked some one out of the system that it was expland to me 3 why dose it have to spill over in to the belts forceing me to move or perticapate in something i dont want to. 4 i pay to play and if same as u and know i dont want do these style of play and till this week i did not have to and dont think it is right that ccp force this on players that dont want to for the sake of others that do |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
1401
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:33:00 -
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kinadyan wrote:Chandaris wrote:I will add: you logged in, heard the eerie music, saw the green background and all the warnings and wierd icons on the left. undocked your stuff and warped to belt anyways when a simple google search or asking anyone in game would have saved you.l
there is no excuse. there is no 'safe' space in EVE. 1 not everyone find the same things fun. i raid for over 8 years in other game and dont realy want to do that anymore.
I was wrong, it's not Gold, it's PLATINUM. This poster delivers.
Also GBTWoW
Quote: 2 if you dont know the meen of somthing you should ask true and i did with no respon in genal chat it was not till i picked some one out of the system that it was expland to me 3 why dose it have to spill over in to the belts forceing me to move or perticapate in something i dont want to. 4 i pay to play and if same as u and know i dont want do these style of play and till this week i did not have to and dont think it is right that ccp force this on players that dont want to for the sake of others that do
What's better than Platinum guys? im running outta precious metals to compare this too!!
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3503
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:34:00 -
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Like is always said.....adapt or die.
I find it a great excuse to run Missions and do some Wormhole play for a few days.
Is there a shortage of things to do in EVE suddenly ? Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.-á-á-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |

Jonah Gravenstein
Gordian Knot Holdings
5880
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:35:00 -
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I used to consider myself a carebear, now I'm ashamed of labelling myself that way, because of threads like this and people that can't accept Eve for what it is.
I need a new label, because the real carebears make me look bad.
@ Jenn Aside, Unobtainium
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and everybody in it. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
3503
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:36:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:
What's better than Platinum guys? im running outta precious metals to compare this too!!
Apparently Rhodium. Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.-á-á-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |

Rico Minali
The Straw Men Dark Therapy
1230
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:38:00 -
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I agree, if ccp want my money then Eve should work how I want it to! Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
2288
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:40:00 -
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I like how OP tells us how much he spends and how many accounts he has in an effort to change CCPs mind about incursions.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
1404
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:42:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:
What's better than Platinum guys? im running outta precious metals to compare this too!!
Apparently Rhodium.
Got it. Not to make a Song with it.
""They see my Rhodium, They hatin! patrolllin, tryin to catch me ridin dirty!!!!!""
Hope that ain't copyrighted! |

Itazukii Kumori
Shoto-Khan
1
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:44:00 -
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So in essence you want CCP to cater to your needs even if other people enjoy incursions, hisec pvp and ganking etc. I'm sorry but you are not a unique and special snowflake.
You have a choice in this matter a: Play EvE the way CCP intended to cater to the playerbase as a WHOLE as well as their vision for the game b: Find a different game which caters more to your needs.
You are quite arrogant if you believe that your needs/desires for gameplay supersedes others'. I personally enjoy incursions, hisec pvp, ganking as well as mining - so what makes your needs more important than mine? |

kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:46:00 -
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you know out of all the responce no has mentioned my question about how much money ccp has lost do to the fact there r alot of people out there that think like me, and have just left the game. |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
1405
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:48:00 -
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kinadyan wrote:you know out of all the responce no has mentioned my question about how much money ccp has lost do to the fact there r alot of people out there that think like me, and have just left the game.
Dear God, I do honestly hope you're trolling (i'd give good odds that's what this is), because you've damn near used every tired high sec argument for safety/entitlement I've ever seen on this forum.
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Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
727
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:49:00 -
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EvE is not a game that is meant to cater to as many people as possible. Not every resturaunt is McDonalds. EvE makes a great living as a game intended for a specific subsection of gamers, and being effected by the world around them is one of the things that appeals to those players. Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement. |

Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
256
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:49:00 -
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kinadyan wrote:you know out of all the responce no has mentioned my question about how much money ccp has lost do to the fact there r alot of people out there that think like me, and have just left the game.
there is an old saying that goes "You can please some of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time. But you can never please all of the people, all of the time."
CCP introduced incursions at the request of the community. If you got your head outta your keister for a moment and tried running them you might find they are a lot more fun than sitting on your hands in top belt.
Or, like I said, move out of the constellation.. Did your ******* warp drive break down or something? Can your precious mining barge not fly three jumps or something? |

kinadyan
Get Minning and Sons
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:50:00 -
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Itazukii Kumori wrote:So in essence you want CCP to cater to your needs even if other people enjoy incursions, hisec pvp and ganking etc. I'm sorry but you are not a unique and special snowflake.
You have a choice in this matter a: Play EvE the way CCP intended to cater to the playerbase as a WHOLE as well as their vision for the game b: Find a different game which caters more to your needs.
You are quite arrogant if you believe that your needs/desires for gameplay supersedes others'. I personally enjoy incursions, hisec pvp, ganking as well as mining - so what makes your needs more important than mine?
so what u are say is you fall under the chicken caragory of play that wont just leave it in .4 space or less u force other to play your game even if they dont want to |

Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
256
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:51:00 -
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you aren't getting it mate. incursions are primarly a highsec activity, that were created to give something to people like you to do other than just mine and mission.
i give up this guy is hopeless. |

Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
260
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:51:00 -
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OP needs to try out Progress Quest. You're guaranteed not to be interrupted by anything there. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Gordian Knot Holdings
5880
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:54:00 -
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kinadyan wrote:you know out of all the responce no has mentioned my question about how much money ccp has lost do to the fact there r alot of people out there that think like me, and have just left the game.
In short. none, well not any of those that they wanted to keep anyway. Subs have been increasing steadily for years, with the very occasional glitch. Any players that leave because they don't like it, are rapidly replaced by those that do.
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and everybody in it. |

Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
256
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:55:00 -
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Takseen wrote:OP needs to try out Progress Quest. You're guaranteed not to be interrupted by anything there.
Oh wow. Progress Quest is ******* epic, thankyou for that ahahaha |
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