You would still have force projection at least to the edge of your own territory via jump bridges.

There would still be huge blobs, new comers to null sec would still be squashed.

Threads on nullsec in GD have a track record for ending really well...

Stellar contribution there, man.

Look who's talking, mate.

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I sort of assumed removing the jump mechanic would go along with removing cap ships.

As to huge blobs of subcaps attacking newcomers wouldn't that at least afford the defenders a chance to inflict signicicant damage? Would it really be worth the attackers effort?

Caps are fine, it is the conflict drivers, like Tec, Choice space, that use to produce fights that are now doing the exact opposite, case in point, the current lack luster state that is null. It is easier to pay off your enemy than to fight him, hence the blue donut effect. That needs attention not caps.

Horrid Sov mechanics aside....

The real problem with NullSec is the same problem with any crappy neighborhood... the inhabitants.
No imagination.

By no imagination, I'm going to assume that what you mean is, they want something different than you want them to want.

What could CCP possibly do to prevent large coalitions from accepting that peace is more profitable than war?


Seriously, as a high sec industrialist myself, I'd LOVE, LOVE, LOVE to see all the PVPers find lots and lots of fun ship-to-ship PVP outside of high sec. More customers for my goods and fewer threads on the forums calling for it to be easier to less with high sec carebears.

I just do not know what CCP could do to drive war, without also creating an exploitable mechanic.

If they move the tech moons, then there would REALLY be no reason for a little guy to try to move to null. One day you're set up in a quite backwater, the next day, 50 super caps show up because a moon in your system now has a valuable resource. That doesn't sound so great.

Plexing for sov? Forcing people that like to PVP, to PVE, in hopes another PVPer will show up to try to stop you? Sounds to me like sitting in a complex for hours and hours would be as, if not more, boring than dropping dreads on a structure.



I think everyone would agree that a constantly raging, relatively small fleet (dozen to hundreds of ships involved, not thousands or lopsided blobinations), state of war, providing meaningful and entertaining PVP for those interested in ship-to-ship PVP would be great.

I'm just totally unable to come up with a mechanic that would create this.

That is true balance. 1 type of ship with different models. FUN!

TL: Its because they have run out of people to fight in null sec, see: big blue donut.

also read the thread in my sig for a more in depth discussion of the OP.

TL: Its because they have run out of people to fight in null sec, see: big blue donut.

also read the thread in my sig for a more in depth discussion of the OP.

What could CCP possibly do to prevent large coalitions from accepting that peace is more profitable than war?


Seriously, as a high sec industrialist myself, I'd LOVE, LOVE, LOVE to see all the PVPers find lots and lots of fun ship-to-ship PVP outside of high sec. More customers for my goods and fewer threads on the forums calling for it to be easier to less with high sec carebears

Nullsec has more PvP then all other regions put together at present.
People complaining about 'lack of PVP in 0.0' are simply woefully misinformed.
If people are interested in increasing the level of PVP in EVE, maybe they could focus on the 71% of EVE's population only engaging in 21% of the PVP.

Need more raw materials? No need to have to pillage a neighboring region because you have infinite amounts in if in your few systems.

Want the best rats? No need to roam or pillage for the best ones, because again, you have an unlimited amount of rats in your own systems.

So you are the latest person to go "hot damn I heard this on a forum from an npc alt poster it must be true." Good to know.

That's just stupid. Resources are 'unlimited' because we import 100% of them from Jita. Industry and Mining in 0.0 is not worth it whatsoever since you are actually making less money there than in highsec.

And Rats are only unlimited in the sense that they respawn after a while. There is very much a limit as to how many ratters a system can support at the same time (a very low one). If you want actually unlimited rats you do missions in highsec because 500 dudes can do missions in the same system.

That's just stupid. Resources are 'unlimited' because we import 100% of them from Jita. Industry and Mining in 0.0 is not worth it whatsoever since you are actually making less money there than in highsec.

And Rats are only unlimited in the sense that they respawn after a while. There is very much a limit as to how many ratters a system can support at the same time (a very low one). If you want actually unlimited rats you do missions in highsec because 500 dudes can do missions in the same system.

Cap ships are not the issue, whether they exist or not the large alliances will still outgun the newer entrants to null sec.

Caps are fine, it is the conflict drivers, like Tec, Choice space, that use to produce fights that are now doing the exact opposite, case in point, the current lack luster state that is null. It is easier to pay off your enemy than to fight him, hence the blue donut effect. That needs attention not caps.

The "Problem" is that some alliance leaders decided they were going to team up, this means that the only people they have left to fight is the new comers.

Military upgraded systems have anomalies that respawn within minutes, this effectively gives you unlimited rats.

So tell me good sir, what incentives are there for the goons to suddenly want to invade a separate region entirely?

the same one there always has been, the unadulterated joy of taking something from someone, lighting it on fire, and peeing on the ashes

it's just that with the sov system the way it is victory hurts almost as much as defeat, the defender may lose their space but they're not the ones stuck grinding hundreds of millions of ehp