How about a kind of structured seige system in high sec?
I'm thinking along the lines of Lineage 2 castle seiges. Allow one corporation to effectively "schedule" an engagement with another corp over whatever control of whatever the station provides. Winner gets whatever control the station offers for a week or so, and then it becomes vulnerable again.

Industry needs to be phased out of NPC stations and into POSs ... if it makes people happer, allow small refineries in POSs in 0.5 systems. Make it a conflict driver! ;)

Their are loads of free office space in 0.5 systems, just not in the ones close to trade hubs, to get closer you need to use a 0.6 or 0.7 system and they really have a lot of space available, so the should just allow refineries where ever you can anchor a POS.

Player owned should always be better than NPC free.

lol EVE is rife with total and radical changes demanded by players throughout its entire 10 year history

Yet CCP have never balked at removing NPC crutches once the player economy proved it was capable of handling the load; NPC buy orders for minerals, NPC goods, etc. Why would it be so conceptually difficult to transition the player economy away from NPC manufacturing facilities?

Whereas, now I am able to mine in an unlimited number of systems, have perfect refining at all the stations owned by 14 npc corps (so far) and can manufacture at any npc station, anywhere at all.

My bad. I thought we were discussing the lack of risk vs reward regarding nullsec vs highsec. The topic on the thread is obviously missing the part where it's a RP discussion.

I'm very sorry and I'll retire from this discussion

sigh I never thought I'd like a post by you Frying but you've grown on me :).

Exactly right. Why should paying someone to do all the work be cheaper than having your own facilities? where does that make sense anywhere?

I'm not sure I'm getting where this affects my point.

MY point is that all in the same country owning your own facilities is almost intrinsically better than hiring work out to others especially in manufacturing as you do not need to factor in everyone upon the chains markup for profit.

In the company I work for we only hire out work to toll manufacturers for prototypes after that we try and backintegrate fully for the larger scale as it's a lot cheaper.

nowhere did I mention outsourcing to cheaper labour countries.

Stealth edit: If it was in other countries then there is still the gradient between your own facilities in that country and outsourcing to facilities owned by others in that country.

You completely lost me on that one.

Are you saying that you built the facilities and then sold them to China at a lower price than you do to Europe?

Or are you saying that you built the facilities and then rented them to china, so they cost the Chinese less to operate?

I'm glad people are taking the time here to ensure that my internet spaceship industry mirrors as closely as possible their bastardized version of economic history.

CCP I request a downvote button specifically for Buzzy Warstl's posts.

I haven't seen so much kneejerk since they decided to buff mining barges and exhumers.

Mostly depends on the ratio of high sec poster to null sec poster. If it follow in-game population, null sec poster are doomed to negative likes count...

That would totally hurt them btw.

Yes, yes they are...

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Sovereignty_guide#Claiming_Sovereignty