If nullsec gets industry on par with highsec, what reason will there be for trade between nullsec and highsec?

Though I'm sure the low-sec, gate-camping lobby would love to see dozens of freighters loaded with expensive goods passing by daily, the suggestion doesn't alter the reality that some of these ideas aren't just game-altering - they're potentially game-breaking. But debating this particular point is kinda silly, as CCP will never force all of high sec into low to manufacture goods. High sec pays their salaries and I'm sure they're keenly aware of the value those players represent.

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Well, people are already forced into sovereign nullsec if they want to produce supercaps.

There are 2 issues:
1. Jump freighters make even fairly remote nullsec closer to the nearest highsec trade hub than the highsec trade hubs are to each other.

2. There are higher priority manufacturing jobs for nullsec than T1 and T2 subcap ships and modules.

None of the suggestions for "fixing" nullsec industry so much as acknowledges either of these things, so all of the suggestions are doomed to miss their stated goals and accomplish other things entirely should they be implemented.

which is, from my experience, safer than highsec.

...Why would it be so conceptually difficult to transition the player economy away from NPC manufacturing facilities?

Sound like a very bad change.

I haven't said I am against improving areas of the game (0.0 industry).

Pretending that something must be torn down to make something else better is the sign of a serious lack of imagination, or a simple desire for destruction.

Well, tell me what you can make in highsec that you *can't* in nullsec.

Yet somehow nullsec manufacturing is inferior.

So, the huge fleets of capital ships and supercaps that exist in nullsec are there because it isn't practical to make T1 and T2 subcaps in sovereign nullsec?

How many battle cruisers worth of materials and time goes into the production of a single titan?

and yes, I am familiar with overhead, are you familiar with "disingenuous"?

You say those words, yet I know for fact that there exist industrialists that would happily take on the risks of nullsec industry for T1 and T2 production if it wasn't for "higher priority jobs": capital and supercap production.

Do you think that this prioritization would magically change if highsec had less productive capability?
Would it change if nullsec had more?

You are right, capital ship production doesn't make nullsec industry better, nor does drug production or moon mining, what it makes nullsec industry is qualitatively different.

You don't fix qualitative differences with quantity. It just doesn't work that way.

You should do some research as well, those POS manufacturing slots that are dedicated to titans could be as many as 60 module manufacturing slots. Each.

The amount of manufacturing capacity tied up in making supercaps is a lot more than most people understand it to be

The truth hurts that much?

I haven't seen so much parochial thinking since last time I browsed the WoW boards.

Nullsec has the most access, the most things that can be done, industry that is pulled many different ways by the demands of supercap production, moon mining, and drug production in addition to local production of things they can perfectly well produce and import from lowsec (where there are *quite* adequate production facilities at highsec prices without the need to brave a single gate camp for access)).

The only reason I can see for this crusade to gut highsec industry is that there are too many production lines to do a full manipulation to lock people out with the resources they have at the moment, because everything they are asking for but that they already have.