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Katjaa
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Posted - 2005.08.01 09:44:00 -
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Hi all. Our corp has come to the conclusion that we should join an allaince for various reasions, isk being the number one. So we started to orientate a bit but we can't make our minds up. Half of Eve is fighting the other half! An important issue for us is stability within the region and refining fees. I would like to ask the dear readers what you consider a good solid allaince and what the fees are. Who should we consider? Where should we never go? And why not?
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ThunderGodThor
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Posted - 2005.08.01 09:48:00 -
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I wouldnt go to 5 space. lots going on and every one is on the NBSI. You might try deep in stain i dont think there is any major fighting going on there for the moment but i dont know if stain sells minning passes tho. Or you can try up North in PA space. But there is a little war Going on with Xeles i think it is.
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munchy
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Posted - 2005.08.01 09:52:00 -
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stain has virii warring them atm, not a big corp, but i know they can do alot fo damage, fountain is probly not the best place either, neither is gw or....well, i think the only safe space atm is fix's region, querious, and possibly some of the north
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Tansien
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Posted - 2005.08.01 10:08:00 -
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 Originally by: ThunderGodThor
I wouldnt go to 5 space. lots going on and every one is on the NBSI. You might try deep in stain i dont think there is any major fighting going on there for the moment but i dont know if stain sells minning passes tho. Or you can try up North in PA space. But there is a little war Going on with Xeles i think it is.
We already know your corporation woulden't go to 5 space ;)
TBH, theres not really any 0.0 space which is "safe", all areas have their problems.
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2005.08.01 10:29:00 -
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It's just a matter of how good you are at dealing with that particular problem.
Forming up a gang and camping the tiny widdle gankers inside a system or station frustrates them the most and will probably make them get the hell outta that region sooner or later \o/
And btw half of eve isn't fighting the other half but 9999 factions are warring each other and napping each other in indecipherable ways 
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.08.01 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: ThunderGodThor
I wouldnt go to 5 space. lots going on and every one is on the NBSI. You might try deep in stain i dont think there is any major fighting going on there for the moment but i dont know if stain sells minning passes tho. Or you can try up North in PA space. But there is a little war Going on with Xeles i think it is.
Alternatively Imperium may be able to offer mining access to HED/Agil for around half the day. Or you could always join them in Half mining omber, 0.2 omber is better you know :o
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thebold
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Posted - 2005.08.01 10:55:00 -
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Alternatively Imperium may be able to offer mining access to HED/Agil for around half the day.
Easy Chow, one day Imp will claim SV5 when Xirt has finished mining the min's to put towards the cost of his next small pos. However you blowing the poor guy up in low sec put's his plans back another day :[
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DarkZaion
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Posted - 2005.08.01 11:07:00 -
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i dont think any allaince wants miners ... refining fee shouldnt be a worry
every allance i think, will want u to fight alot
then again u can buy mining pass, which is prob the best choice
ask bob they may be selling some (in fa space), fix also and stain i dont realy know, u gonna need to find the right person
those are tbh have most stable regions of other allaince (i can be wrong)
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.08.01 12:28:00 -
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I wouldn't ask permission to anybody and I'll just set up a POS in a very lost place with some good ores, then do my stuff there while watching local 
But heh, I'm a convicted Anarchist.
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.08.01 12:29:00 -
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Edited by: Saladin on 01/08/2005 12:31:11
As someone who lived in Curse for a long time, stay away, seriously. I would recommend PA which resides in Venal. The reason is following:
1. The Angel Cartel are the most difficult NPCs to fight and drop the crappiest items. I now live in Stain and when I kill npc's there, I weep for all those years wasted in Curse. Other NPCs are a cake walk by comparison and drop something nice all the time.
2. The North can be confusing, but the South has a few powerful corporations trying to force everyone to join in one huge NAP. Very boring for the alliance crowd.
3. Alliances in the south would look to you as a 'meat-shield' (to borrow a phrase from Lord Draco), while those in the north would likely treat you as equals.
PS> ASCN are probably nice guys, but I wouldn't join them because of (1)
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.08.01 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Saladin
Edited by: Saladin on 01/08/2005 12:31:11
As someone who lived in Curse for a long time, stay away, seriously. I would recommend PA which resides in Venal. The reason is following:
1. The Angel Cartel are the most difficult NPCs to fight and drop the crappiest items. I now live in Stain and when I kill npc's there, I weep for all those years wasted in Curse. Other NPCs are a cake walk by comparison and drop something nice all the time.
2. The North can be confusing, but the South has a few powerful corporations trying to force everyone to join in one huge NAP. Very boring for the alliance crowd.
3. Alliances in the south would look to you as a 'meat-shield' (to borrow a phrase from Lord Draco), while those in the north would likely treat you as equals.
PS> ASCN are probably nice guys, but I wouldn't join them because of (1)
Oh no no no. The NPCs around curse are simply lovely and there are a vareity of good ores.
However Saladin does correctly point out that the people of the South are attempting to live in harmony, resulting in a more productive atmosphere. Anyone just needs to look at the north of the Map at those blobs and see it is in utter turmoil.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.08.01 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Saladin
Edited by: Saladin on 01/08/2005 12:31:11
As someone who lived in Curse for a long time, stay away, seriously. I would recommend PA which resides in Venal. The reason is following:
1. The Angel Cartel are the most difficult NPCs to fight and drop the crappiest items. I now live in Stain and when I kill npc's there, I weep for all those years wasted in Curse. Other NPCs are a cake walk by comparison and drop something nice all the time.
2. The North can be confusing, but the South has a few powerful corporations trying to force everyone to join in one huge NAP. Very boring for the alliance crowd.
3. Alliances in the south would look to you as a 'meat-shield' (to borrow a phrase from Lord Draco), while those in the north would likely treat you as equals.
PS> ASCN are probably nice guys, but I wouldn't join them because of (1)
Oh no no no. The NPCs around curse are simply lovely and there are a vareity of good ores.
However Saladin does correctly point out that the people of the South are attempting to live in harmony, resulting in a more productive atmosphere. Anyone just needs to look at the north of the Map at those blobs and see it is in utter turmoil.
Yes NPCs in Curse are great if you prefer Basic Damage control mods to 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Plates. They are also better if you enjoy NPCs that spam missles from the entire damage spectrum, tank like maniacs and have battleships that drop 1MN afterburners
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IamBen
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Posted - 2005.08.01 13:11:00 -
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Scalding Pass is a lovely place to live.
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.08.01 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: Chowdown on 01/08/2005 13:38:02
Originally by: Saladin
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Saladin
Edited by: Saladin on 01/08/2005 12:31:11
As someone who lived in Curse for a long time, stay away, seriously. I would recommend PA which resides in Venal. The reason is following:
1. The Angel Cartel are the most difficult NPCs to fight and drop the crappiest items. I now live in Stain and when I kill npc's there, I weep for all those years wasted in Curse. Other NPCs are a cake walk by comparison and drop something nice all the time.
2. The North can be confusing, but the South has a few powerful corporations trying to force everyone to join in one huge NAP. Very boring for the alliance crowd.
3. Alliances in the south would look to you as a 'meat-shield' (to borrow a phrase from Lord Draco), while those in the north would likely treat you as equals.
PS> ASCN are probably nice guys, but I wouldn't join them because of (1)
Oh no no no. The NPCs around curse are simply lovely and there are a vareity of good ores.
However Saladin does correctly point out that the people of the South are attempting to live in harmony, resulting in a more productive atmosphere. Anyone just needs to look at the north of the Map at those blobs and see it is in utter turmoil.
Yes NPCs in Curse are great if you prefer Basic Damage control mods to 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Plates. They are also better if you enjoy NPCs that spam missles from the entire damage spectrum, tank like maniacs and have battleships that drop 1MN afterburners
Sal lets not get hung up on the specifics of npcing, if you find them to tough why don't you start a thread in the general section. I beleive there are a lot of people moaning about npcng there and how tough agent missions are now.
I know a vast amount of the inhabitants of the southwest find them quite reasonable. Anyway npcng is not disinteresting, did I mention how great the ore is.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.08.01 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: Chowdown
Sal lets not get hung up on the specifics of npcing, if you find them to tough why don't you start a thread in the general section. I beleive there are a lot of people moaning about npcng there and how tough agent missions are now.
I know a vast amount of the inhabitants of the southwest find them quite reasonable. Anyway npcng is disinteresting, did I mention how great the ore is.
The only reason they find them reasonable is because , like me until recently, that is all they know. Perhaps you haven't noticed because you blob the npcs as well.
Consequently, I suggest that you start a thread about how the ore is so nice.
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However Saladin does correctly point out that the people of the South are attempting to live in harmony, resulting in a more productive atmosphere
The plan is to NAP everyone and then backstab one ally, finishe him off and then to move on to the next. The problem is that they can't keep things in game, they have to betray out of game confidences as well, and encourage it.
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.08.01 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Saladin
Originally by: Chowdown
Sal lets not get hung up on the specifics of npcing, if you find them to tough why don't you start a thread in the general section. I beleive there are a lot of people moaning about npcng there and how tough agent missions are now.
I know a vast amount of the inhabitants of the southwest find them quite reasonable. Anyway npcng is disinteresting, did I mention how great the ore is.
The only reason they find them reasonable is because , like me until recently, that is all they know. Perhaps you haven't noticed because you blob the npcs as well.
Consequently, I suggest that you start a thread about how the ore is so nice.
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However Saladin does correctly point out that the people of the South are attempting to live in harmony, resulting in a more productive atmosphere
The plan is to NAP everyone and then backstab one ally, finishe him off and then to move on to the next. The problem is that they can't keep things in game, they have to betray out of game confidences as well, and encourage it.
Thats not true Sal, I've NPCd all over the map, PB, stain, fountain, 'the north'. Quite the regular carebear me.
With regards to your conspiracy theory and think its very cute.
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Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2005.08.01 14:19:00 -
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mk ultra backstabbed me, does that count?
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.08.01 14:20:00 -
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I reccomend you go to curse and stay there for a minimum of one moneth.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.08.01 14:23:00 -
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Nice the way you just dismiss it as conspiracy theories when you know who in your corp was complicit in it. But on the whole it freed me from any second thoughts about Shinra as I hold you all in the same contempt.
As for the Angel Cartel, it does drop named mods with the worst frequency, and thats a fact 
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.08.01 14:28:00 -
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I would suggest getting mining/living passes from BoB to live in period basis or delve. Theres no hostiles around there anymore and its deep into 0.0, and blood raiders are ridiculously easy to kill and drop good loot (named large reps and lasers). I'd say go north but it looks a mess lately, I'd say go west but syndicate is always a clusterfck, and the east is also a mess w/ all the people fightin for f-e space.
Originally by: Sochin
CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.08.01 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Saladin
Nice the way you just dismiss it as conspiracy theories when you know who in your corp was complicit in it. But on the whole it freed me from any second thoughts about Shinra as I hold you all in the same contempt.
Which would explain your baseless accusations with regards to the south, as merely spitefull rhetoric.
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As for the Angel Cartel, it does drop named mods with the worst frequency, and thats a fact
I think you should think about some of the complexes, unfortunatley the good ones require more than one person.
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.08.01 14:44:00 -
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Edited by: LUKEC on 01/08/2005 14:45:49
Originally by: Katjaa
Hi all. Our corp has come to the conclusion that we should join an allaince for various reasions, isk being the number one. So we started to orientate a bit but we can't make our minds up. Half of Eve is fighting the other half! An important issue for us is stability within the region and refining fees. I would like to ask the dear readers what you consider a good solid allaince and what the fees are. Who should we consider? Where should we never go? And why not?
Your corp is not welcome in any alliance. Btw, posting with alt is bad.
Edit: careberism is often connected with selfishness... so just go away.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.08.01 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Saladin
Nice the way you just dismiss it as conspiracy theories when you know who in your corp was complicit in it. But on the whole it freed me from any second thoughts about Shinra as I hold you all in the same contempt.
Which would explain your baseless accusations with regards to the south, as merely spitefull rhetoric.
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As for the Angel Cartel, it does drop named mods with the worst frequency, and thats a fact
I think you should think about some of the complexes, unfortunatley the good ones require more than one person.
And your praise of the ore is not motivated by the desire for more tax payers? Give me a break, don't act all impartial.
As for my accusations, you and your corp showed your true colours when you all jumped into defend the act. You all thought that racially motivated comments were funny and defended the fact that he used out of game data from your forums to do it. Thats how baseless the accusations were.
As for the complexes, did plenty of them pre-cold war on my own as well as with others. Except for the overseer packages, didn't see anything to write home about.
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.08.01 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Saladin
And your praise of the ore is not motivated by the desire for more tax payers? Give me a break, don't act all impartial.
As if  it's a know fact that the southwest has good ores.
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As for my accusations, you and your corp showed your true colours when you all jumped into defend the act. You all thought that racially motivated comments were funny and defended the fact that he used out of game data from your forums to do it. Thats how baseless the accusations were.
This thread is about access to 0.0, not your personal grievances.
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As for the complexes, did plenty of them pre-cold war on my own as well as with others. Except for the overseer packages, didn't see anything to write home about.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.08.01 14:56:00 -
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Try some lonly regions in syndicate, should be easy for you to get access and quite safe, only pay the local pirates when thy get you.
Also you could check cloud ring and set up a POS there, but probably G will come and kill your POS, maybe you should negotiate that before, but besides G claiming it, cloud ring is pretty safe, at least compared to other 0.0
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Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2005.08.01 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Saladin
As for my accusations, you and your corp showed your true colours when you all jumped into defend the act. You all thought that racially motivated comments were funny and defended the fact that he used out of game data from your forums to do it. Thats how baseless the accusations were.
Perhaps you should attend an ADL workshop. It would certainly help prevent such careless, hasty generalizations about something members of Shinra had no control over.
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.08.01 15:20:00 -
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It is quite easy to see that Sal is quite simply jealous of the 5 and their regions. However, I am inclined to agree with Drunkenone, BoB space is very secure, as is FIX at the moment (i believe). And sal lies when he says Curse npcs drop crappy mods... i personally looted namy named siege, cruise, and 1400 arty. And the loot from complexes can be simply amazing, with Gistii X type loot.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.08.01 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer
Perhaps you should attend an ADL workshop. It would certainly help prevent such careless, hasty generalizations about something members of Shinra had no control over.
Nebba, the only judgements I made were from your very own posts and those of other people that lunged in defense. My very valid complaint on your forums was responded to by a banning. I'm glad I was so adamant to not be recorded by you in TS or I am sure you would have modified those and made them public as well.
Chow is right though, this thread is not about that. I won't post anymore as long as I am not given anything to respond to.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.08.01 15:31:00 -
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Edited by: Saladin on 01/08/2005 15:37:50
Originally by: Kyle Caldrel
It is quite easy to see that Sal is quite simply jealous of the 5 and their regions.
If regional control was what I sought I would have joined when invited. Or did you ATUK people not know about that either?
Regional Control is something I dismissed long ago as an fun-inhibiting headache. I still enjoy the bounties of 0.0 all the same. The bistot parachute was not too bad either.
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Katjaa
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Posted - 2005.08.01 15:34:00 -
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Thx all for your responses, taking me serously. P.A spokesman was rather nasty in his respons. No need to react in such way m8. As I see it now we should look for a place south west of the map but curse space was also recommanded often. Can somebody tell what refining fees Bob or Atuk take?
Many thanks, Katja.
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