With the ship rebalancing program well on its way, pruning legendary ships to mere metal scraps all in the name of GÇ£Ship BalanceGÇ¥ makes you wonder where that very thin line between overpower and just right lies.

Sounds a lot like a stealthy whiny thread about tengus, drakes and hurricanes.

Damn yungins!
In my youth "OP" was used to describe a megalomanic egomaniac who could, and would, kick you out of the channel if you didn't fall in line and conform to their definition of appropriate behaviour! He could also turn other normal people into OPs but that would usually not happen as it would comflict with the megalomanic egomaniac side of things.

Then there are hOPs and sOPs why are like a sugar-free and napalm-death versions of the OP, respectively.

But sure. Go on and redefine a completely meaningful word into something else. I'll just stay here, not understand anything of what's going on around me, and lament my youth.

Damn yungins!
In my youth "OP" was used to describe a megalomanic egomaniac who could, and would, kick you out of the channel if you didn't fall in line and conform to their definition of appropriate behaviour! He could also turn other normal people into OPs but that would usually not happen as it would comflict with the megalomanic egomaniac side of things.

Then there are hOPs and sOPs why are like a sugar-free and napalm-death versions of the OP, respectively.

But sure. Go on and redefine a completely meaningful word into something else. I'll just stay here, not understand anything of what's going on around me, and lament my youth.

With the ship rebalancing program well on its way, pruning legendary ships to mere metal scraps all in the name of GÇ£Ship BalanceGÇ¥ makes you wonder where that very thin line between overpower and just right lies.

Considering the following :

-Your training time vs. your capabilities & survivability.
-The cost of a ship vs. capabilities & survivability.
-Fun factor

I find this quite difficult to grasp let alone answer, can you make any sense of this?

Damn yungins!
In my youth "OP" was used to describe a megalomanic egomaniac who could, and would, kick you out of the channel if you didn't fall in line and conform to their definition of appropriate behaviour! He could also turn other normal people into OPs but that would usually not happen as it would comflict with the megalomanic egomaniac side of things.

Then there are hOPs and sOPs why are like a sugar-free and napalm-death versions of the OP, respectively.

But sure. Go on and redefine a completely meaningful word into something else. I'll just stay here, not understand anything of what's going on around me, and lament my youth.

If it's better than my ship, it's OP
If it's worse than my ship, it's balanced

Damn yungins!
In my youth "OP" was used to describe a megalomanic egomaniac who could, and would, kick you out of the channel if you didn't fall in line and conform to their definition of appropriate behaviour! He could also turn other normal people into OPs but that would usually not happen as it would comflict with the megalomanic egomaniac side of things.

Then there are hOPs and sOPs why are like a sugar-free and napalm-death versions of the OP, respectively.

But sure. Go on and redefine a completely meaningful word into something else. I'll just stay here, not understand anything of what's going on around me, and lament my youth.

Sounds a lot like a stealthy whiny thread about tengus, drakes and hurricanes.

With the ship rebalancing program well on its way, pruning legendary ships to mere metal scraps all in the name of GÇ£Ship BalanceGÇ¥ makes you wonder where that very thin line between overpower and just right lies.

Considering the following :

-Your training time vs. your capabilities & survivability.
-The cost of a ship vs. capabilities & survivability.
-Fun factor

I find this quite difficult to grasp let alone answer, can you make any sense of this?

I find this quite difficult to grasp let alone answer, can you make any sense of this?

Something is OP when after careful consideration and all reasoning it remains as the only choice for having success and its alternatives lead to failure.

"OP" = Over Pathetic

Now it makes sense.

lol, rly? succes is OP, might be...

I see you prefer to fail.

...now maybe you care to explain how did you get to this conclusion?

You seem to be making no connection between your choices and your success.

...just because i suggested that things leading to succes might be OP, considering what YOU said upper?

...

I see your edit now!

I did not think an "old wolf" would be capable of rolling over. I learn new every day.

I THOUGHT BECAUSE THE TOPIC WAS IN CAPS AND HAD A GM TAG THIS WAS A REALLY IMPORTANT THREAD

But no.

Well, usually whatever is overpowered is overrepresented. That's how you spot something overpowered - people go with what works, not with something that works half the time or only works when you do everything right.
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For me OP is pretty simple. If there is only one accepted way of doing something despite other methods being provided, there is something wrong. For example, if there are four ships that are built as sniper ships, all of them doing a good job at it, but one does such a great job at it to the point you're insulted if you don't use that ship over the others, then its probably OP.

I THOUGHT BECAUSE THE TOPIC WAS IN CAPS AND HAD A GM DEV TAG THIS WAS A REALLY IMPORTANT THREAD

But no.

e:dohhhh

This.
Sadly, this won't apply to nothing. Let's say we pick cruisers. Every race has a cruiser wich is best, or at least decent, to a precise task. Other races are for that task useless. There's no 4 race cruisers good at the same thing. We have one able to do the task, and rest of 3 are trash. Correct solution is to kill the good one, and leave the rest being also ****** as they were before?
Eve's ships are meant to be oportunistic and task oriented.

With the ship rebalancing program well on its way, pruning legendary ships to mere metal scraps all in the name of GÇ£Ship BalanceGÇ¥ makes you wonder where that very thin line between overpower and just right lies.

Considering the following :

-Your training time vs. your capabilities & survivability.
-The cost of a ship vs. capabilities & survivability.
-Fun factor

I find this quite difficult to grasp let alone answer, can you make any sense of this?

More to the topic ...whats your dope ? Would you like to be a rock star one day ? You pop into a wormhole ...ur in a legion with about 80mil combat sp , your fit ....all faction. Ur up against 3...no make that 4 battle cruisers ....the pilots are about 2 years old ...who wins more importantly who should win and why ?

A bit off the topic ..........Il be straight forward with you lot ...for me ONE OF THE BIGGEST OPGÇÖS OUT THERE (forget ship balancing) IS BLOBS ...that in a nutshell imo is the biggest cancer and game breaking aspect of Eve. If CCP is really serious about cause and effect ... I would institute a separate indicator, called reputation. If your in a fleet of 10 pilots and you go and gank a lone pilot somewhere out there then you should get a negative reputation over time. Not even mentioning the word honourable, what is so special on your kill board if you outnumber your enemy 5-1 on every engagement?

My thoughts exactly.
CAPSLOCK IS OP

Since there's a time honoured Eve tradition of finding a way to subvert any attempt at using game mechanics to influence behaviour, I give you...rep griefing.

Get a rookie ship, fit some warp scrams and webs, find a slow ship in a big fleet and tackle it. If anyone shoots you, they all take a reputation hit.

With the ship rebalancing program well on its way, pruning legendary ships to mere metal scraps all in the name of GÇ£Ship BalanceGÇ¥ makes you wonder where that very thin line between overpower and just right lies.

Considering the following :

-Your training time vs. your capabilities & survivability.
-The cost of a ship vs. capabilities & survivability.
-Fun factor

I find this quite difficult to grasp let alone answer, can you make any sense of this?