that and the fact that the ASB not only uses no cap with boosters, but also makes amuch better rep burst tank, then you got the AAR that not only needs the charges but still uses cap, still has a WAY longer Cycle time for what is still a very modest rep amount boost.

"The 5% resist is over all a better bonus than the 7.5% rep bonuses, it's also overall better than the 10% rep bonus."

http://wiggles.gamingradio.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/podcasts/Insertshownamehere.mp3

27 minutes in.

He continues to argue that it's an advantage that the AAR runs a lot longer. How is slow cycle time a good thing?

"So yeah, due to recent population control, over consuming have gone down for the better of mankind"
"Oh, and it was ****** that did the population control" Edit: Is Adolfs last name prohibited?

So there it is. Resist bonuses are overpowered and quote "better than 10% rep in almost all cases".

I know we are only at "Armor tanking 1.5", but where will this go to make active armor tanking balanced? Will we keep the local rep bonus?

WHo made that disgusting "******" quote?

Next time attribute quotes in your OP to the proper people better. Would create less confusion.

I'd be very happy with 10% local rep bonus on Myrm.

7.5 rep bonus is just an insult, and we certainly don't need two Gallente BCs with pure solo PVP bonus.

And yes I agree that the hilarious idea that 8 slower and weaker reps last longer than 9 faster and stronger reps should be buried asap. Less EHP gained over a longer period does not equal a longer lasting tank, it means you die faster.

To correct some people in this thread.

ASB is only 7 more powerful reps, not 9.

AAR reps for zero when your neuted.

Long live the ASB, armor tankers rot in hell =)

ASB has 9 with navy boosters, I'm sure you just "forgot" that little tidbit of info.

Current AAR is a silly solution with last minute mechanics based on no logic or balancing at all, it's below par when compared to ASB.

... nice to see that hornet's nest kicked with the first cup of the day ... patch isn't even 3 days old.... ooooo-rah.

@Fozzie: There is a world outside one versus one.

Without resistences med sized fights with triage carriers are not doable. Logistics is always more effective with more resistences.

What if rep bonuses were changed to "armor repair effects applied to this ship are 7.5% more effective per level"?

The solution here is simple increase the repair bonus to bring it inline with the resistance bonus.

The solution here is simple increase the repair bonus to bring it inline with the resistance bonus.

"The 5% resist is over all a better bonus than the 7.5% rep bonuses, it's also overall better than the 10% rep bonus."

http://wiggles.gamingradio.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/podcasts/Insertshownamehere.mp3

27 minutes in.

He continues to argue that it's an advantage that the AAR runs a lot longer. How is slow cycle time a good thing?

*Edit: Removed confusing and possibly offensive comparison*

So there it is. Resist bonuses are overpowered and quote "better than 10% rep in almost all cases".

I know we are only at "Armor tanking 1.5", but where will this go to make active armor tanking balanced? Will we keep the local rep bonus?

@Fozzie: There is a world outside one versus one.

Without resistences med sized fights with triage carriers are not doable. Logistics is always more effective with more resistences.

"The 5% resist is over all a better bonus than the 7.5% rep bonuses, it's also overall better than the 10% rep bonus."

http://wiggles.gamingradio.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/podcasts/Insertshownamehere.mp3

27 minutes in.

He continues to argue that it's an advantage that the AAR runs a lot longer. How is slow cycle time a good thing?

*Edit: Removed confusing and possibly offensive comparison*

So there it is. Resist bonuses are overpowered and quote "better than 10% rep in almost all cases".

I know we are only at "Armor tanking 1.5", but where will this go to make active armor tanking balanced? Will we keep the local rep bonus?

Shield bc's might use an X-large ASB, while armor bc's might be using a Medium AAR.

he has come to that conclusion because i continually pestered him about in the tanking 1.5 thread. I argued that the tanking bonus should include incoming RR and then he said that would be op. then people got upset and said how does not make the resist bonus not op?

my fix for the situation is to make the 5% or 25% to blanked armour/shield resist to 5% to effectiveness of passive resist mods.

pretty much it would make a passive resist mod as good as an active one. but you can only select certain damage resist profiles plus this would make energy adaptive as good as an invul on certain ships.

What I think is really important to consider is that it's simply inevitable that certain bonuses will be more powerful than other bonuses. However, what matters in the end is the overall package. So while a ship may have a resist bonus, it'll also be paired with bad fittings or other disadvantages that even things out. So, in the end it is eminently reasonable that buffing incoming RR on ships which have an active tank bonus would in all actuality be overpowered. Because the strength of their bonuses and the fittings that they have and the speed that they have were all designed with the whole package in mind.

I think it's a relatively reasonable approach to game design.

-Liang