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Pewty McPew
EVE Corporation 2357451
224
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Posted - 2013.02.24 14:40:00 -
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The current ship self-destruct system seems to be in place for 2 reasons.
1. Pod yourself to get back to your clone 2. Deny the enemy a killmail
What if CCP created an AOE damage wave to go along with the self destruct. The larger the ship the greater the damage wave and the further it extends. This wave would effect all the ships within it, friendly and enemy alike. Kinda like a smartbomb, only bigger.
for example something like:
Frigate - 500 hp to 4,000 meters Cruiser - 750 hp to 5,000 meters Battleship - 2500 hp to 7,500 meters Carrier - 25,000 hp to 10,000 meters Titan - 75,000 hp to 15,000 meters
These numbers are just examples and would certainly have to be tweaked.
It would give the player a list ditch, If I'm going down, I'm taking them with me option.
Would you be more apt to use the self destruct option knowing you might be able to take a few with you on the way out?
How would this change the fleet tactics being used currently?
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Dave Stark
1861
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Posted - 2013.02.24 14:42:00 -
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hooray, suicide ibis.
oh also, self destruct doesn't deny a killmail any more, i don't think. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |
Markku Laaksonen
EVE University Ivy League
93
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Posted - 2013.02.24 14:48:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:hooray, suicide ibis.
Suicibis? |
Joran Dravius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
151
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Posted - 2013.02.24 14:50:00 -
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Pewty McPew wrote:The current ship self-destruct system seems to be in place for 2 reasons.
1. Pod yourself to get back to your clone 2. Deny the enemy a killmail
What if CCP created an AOE damage wave to go along with the self destruct. The larger the ship the greater the damage wave and the further it extends. This wave would effect all the ships within it, friendly and enemy alike. Kinda like a smartbomb, only bigger.
for example something like:
Frigate - 500 hp to 4,000 meters Cruiser - 750 hp to 5,000 meters Battleship - 2500 hp to 7,500 meters Carrier - 25,000 hp to 10,000 meters Titan - 75,000 hp to 15,000 meters
These numbers are just examples and would certainly have to be tweaked.
It would give the player a list ditch, If I'm going down, I'm taking them with me option.
Would you be more apt to use the self destruct option knowing you might be able to take a few with you on the way out?
How would this change the fleet tactics being used currently?
You know self destruct has such a long countdown you'll be dead before it goes off, right? |
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
369
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Posted - 2013.02.24 14:59:00 -
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Wasn-¦t something similar done in the Star Trek MMO? Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
Mangala Solaris for CSM 8 |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
787
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:00:00 -
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lol 25000 HP Thats like a poorly tanked cruiser's worth of HP Brass shines as fair to the ignorant as gold to the goldsmiths. -Elizabeth I
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Glathull
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
165
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:03:00 -
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This couldn't possibly turn into a horrible cluster**** of an idea, could it. To repeat, the skill split is scheduled for the big Summer 2013 expansion. ~CCP Fozzie |
stoicfaux
2420
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:16:00 -
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Glathull wrote:This couldn't possibly turn into a horrible cluster**** of an idea, could it. Like a cluster of rookie ships or cheap T1s at the Jita undock? Nah.
Now if your cargo, e.g. ammunition, added to the explosion then you would have a cluster**** of an idea. Imagine self-destructing a Charon carrying 19,625,000 rounds of Large Anti-matter rounds, or 13,000 bombs at the Jita undock.
Also, why limit it to self-destruct? Why not have a chance for an externally initiated self-destruct (i.e. you've been destroyed by other people's guns) to explode catastrophically with an AoE as per a self-destruct?
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Thur Barbek
Republic University Minmatar Republic
57
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:23:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Glathull wrote:This couldn't possibly turn into a horrible cluster**** of an idea, could it. Like a cluster of rookie ships or cheap T1s at the Jita undock? Nah. Now if your cargo, e.g. ammunition, added to the explosion then you would have a cluster**** of an idea. Imagine self-destructing a Charon carrying 19,625,000 rounds of Large Anti-matter rounds, or 13,000 bombs at the Jita undock. Also, why limit it to self-destruct? Why not have a chance for an externally initiated self-destruct (i.e. you've been destroyed by other people's guns) to explode catastrophically with an AoE as per a self-destruct?
WTB 13k bombs going off at once. |
Jess Maine
Kaesong Kosmonauts Test Alliance Please Ignore
44
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:29:00 -
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Something like this WOULD work in theory (it will be abused like everything else, but sincerely who gives a **** - stuff gets abused in EVE every single day)
- Have the ships mass affect the explosions base damage and inside ordanance (the bigger the ship the bigger the base damage, the more ordnance in a bigger ship the even greater explosion)
- Don't have ships explode in this manner through self destruct, instead simply blowing it up with gunfire.
Also; if CCP didn't want to add damage to the explosions, can't ships with large amounts of ordance blow up like structures do in missions/anomolies? |
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Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
1234
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:30:00 -
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Thur Barbek wrote:WTB 13k bombs going off at once. Good Christmas, this would be epic. If you're not already part of a bloc, this is the best guy for CSM8. |
Liam Inkuras
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
168
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:41:00 -
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I fully support this, but add an extra 0 to the end of each of your numbers, then we're talking. |
Pewty McPew
EVE Corporation 2357451
224
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:41:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote: Now if your cargo, e.g. ammunition, added to the explosion then you would have a cluster**** of an idea. Imagine self-destructing a Charon carrying 19,625,000 rounds of Large Anti-matter rounds, or 13,000 bombs at the Jita undock.
Also, why limit it to self-destruct? Why not have a chance for an externally initiated self-destruct (i.e. you've been destroyed by other people's guns) to explode catastrophically with an AoE as per a self-destruct?
I like it, add ammo and cargo into the damage calculations :)
If someone wanted to invest that much ISK/time/effort into an epic Gank bomb and undock Jita 4-4 one day, I personally would have no problem with that, but others might.
It sure would make for a change of tactics.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
849
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:43:00 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:Wasn-¦t something similar done in the Star Trek MMO? was this that thing starfleet dental did? self-destruct spaceships near people to kill them?
dear OP, no you can't have it because Something Awful |
Whitehound
966
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:52:00 -
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Please use Features & Ideas Discussion.
To the idea:
No. You fight and you win, or you lose while trying. Suicide should never be rewarded or have any form of power, ever. Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
Alavaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.02.24 15:55:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:No. You fight and you win, or you lose while trying. Suicide should never be rewarded or have any form of power, ever. We have to redo that tutorial mission, the newbies might get confused.
Our newbies, of course, do get rewarded for dying in a fire. Sometimes they even grab an enemy long enough for us to send the enemy with them. |
Whitehound
966
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Posted - 2013.02.24 16:00:00 -
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Alavaria wrote:Our newbies, of course, do get rewarded for dying in a fire. And I am sure they tried and fired many shots before they died. I am sure they did not simply self-destruct.
You want to try again to come up with a response or shall we just say this was not the best of yours? Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
Fredfredbug4
The Scope Gallente Federation
444
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Posted - 2013.02.24 16:09:00 -
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This will be abused so much, that CCP will be forced to add the 1812 Overture to the EVE soundtrack. I accidentally my assets, is this bad?-á |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
144
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Posted - 2013.02.24 17:32:00 -
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New Year's would be everyday... |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4030
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Posted - 2013.02.24 17:33:00 -
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Pewty McPew wrote:The current ship self-destruct system seems to be in place for 2 reasons.
1. Pod yourself to get back to your clone 2. Deny the enemy a killmail I'm surprised nobody in this thread has yet pointed out to you that #2 doesn't work anymore.
EDIT: Aw ****, Dave Stark edited his post as I was posting this. Malcanis for CSM 8 Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
571
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Posted - 2013.02.24 17:38:00 -
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I personally like this idea. I Read an eve book once, and I'm pretty sure one ship blew up and had a blast wave and everything. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Dave Stark
1861
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Posted - 2013.02.24 17:41:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:EDIT: Aw ****, Dave Stark edited his post as I was posting this.
i edited my post before the third reply had been submitted.
gonna have to be quicker to catch me, good sir. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2861
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Posted - 2013.02.24 17:46:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:EDIT: Aw ****, Dave Stark edited his post as I was posting this.
Oh my god, Dave killed James. That Bastard! This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate WHY so Seri0Us
1064
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Posted - 2013.02.24 18:11:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:lol 25000 HP Thats like a poorly tanked cruiser's worth of HP
I believe he said 25k hp, not 25k ehp. CISPA - Readin' your secret corptheft mails since 2012 |
Felicity Love
STARKRAFT
292
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Posted - 2013.02.24 20:20:00 -
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I'd love it, the "AoE" idea when a ship blew up.
I'd also like to see the amount of damage incrementally increased by the skill level the pilot had with that ship skill (ie, Amarr Cruiser 5 being more dangerous to those in the AoE than Amarr Cruiser 4).
Oh, and I want that damn Corpse Launcher, too.
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Dave Stark
1861
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Posted - 2013.02.24 20:28:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:EDIT: Aw ****, Dave Stark edited his post as I was posting this. Oh my god, Dave killed James. That Bastard!
wasn't me. it's all lies. i did nothing. you got no proof! "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |
Sentinel zx
Shadow Phoenix Special Forces
11
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Posted - 2013.02.24 20:40:00 -
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like the idea but only if it comes with random explosion delay
for example
Frigate 1-2sec Cruiser 1-4sec Battleship 1-5sec Carrier 1-10sec Titan - 1-15sec |
Zenos Ebeth
Eclipse Navy. Test Friends Please Ignore
52
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Posted - 2013.02.24 20:46:00 -
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Yes please , i was very sad when ccp removed smartbombing within docking range , this would be a nice substitute. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2864
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Posted - 2013.02.24 21:02:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:RubyPorto wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:EDIT: Aw ****, Dave Stark edited his post as I was posting this. Oh my god, Dave killed James. That Bastard! wasn't me. it's all lies. i did nothing. you got no proof!
But I caught you on camera.
I saw the marks on your shoulder I heard the words that you told me
(Man, that brings me back....) This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Dave Stark
1861
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Posted - 2013.02.24 21:15:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:(Man, that brings me back....)
me too.
oh god, the nostalgia. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |
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