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Dominara Shadowfey
Liandri Sanctuary Corps
Liandri Covenant
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Posted - 2013.02.24 21:45:00 -
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Amazing idea. Have a set of skills to improve your explosions.
Random delay and large damage range (could do from 10-1000 damage) would make it still fun but less abuseable.
Give structures a "explosives dampening field" which stops people suicide bombing station undocks and gates. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
4041
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Posted - 2013.02.24 23:51:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:lol 25000 HP
Thats like a poorly tanked cruiser's worth of HP I believe he said 25k hp, not 25k ehp.
25k damage removes 25k EHP ,assuming the damage dealt by the weapon has the same resist profile as what's used to calculate the EHP - 25k EM damage will remove 25k EHP as calculated using EM resist only.
Malcanis for CSM 8
Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Aren Madigan
EVE University
Ivy League
110
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Posted - 2013.02.24 23:53:00 -
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In before a corp called the Zeros form as a result of the idea. |
Naes Mlahrend
KINGS OF EDEN
Sev3rance
53
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Posted - 2013.02.25 00:09:00 -
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Liam Inkuras
Chaotic Tranquility
Casoff
168
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Posted - 2013.02.25 03:38:00 -
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I can see it now, flying to Jita undock, and the this message is displayed across the screen as I land, "Liam Inkuras has begun self destruction of his Orca, and will explode in 2 minutes." The whole grid clears out. |
Hallvardr
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.02.25 04:47:00 -
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I too have wonder why we don't have this. You pop a battle ship class hull either by pushing the big red button under the glass or by being a ordinance magnet. I'm sure that the fusion reactor is going to have something to say about it. |
Angelique Duchemin
Divine Intentions
8
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Posted - 2013.02.25 06:10:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Alavaria wrote:Our newbies, of course, do get rewarded for dying in a fire. And I am sure they tried and fired many shots before they died. I am sure they did not simply self-destruct. You want to try again to come up with a response or shall we just say this was not the best of yours?
I think she's referring to the mission where you fly a ship with a bomb planted on it and literally suicide bomb an outpost for mission success.
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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
441
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Posted - 2013.02.25 06:12:00 -
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Glathull wrote:This couldn't possibly turn into a horrible cluster**** of an idea, could it.
That's what makes it so great.....
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Gorn Arming
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
194
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Posted - 2013.02.25 06:22:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Dave Stark wrote:RubyPorto wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:EDIT: Aw ****, Dave Stark edited his post as I was posting this. Oh my god, Dave killed James. That Bastard! wasn't me. it's all lies. i did nothing. you got no proof! But I caught you on camera.I saw the marks on your shoulder I heard the words that you told me (Man, that brings me back....)
Suddenly I'm in 9th grade gym class again. |
Zaraz Zaraz
Imperial Planetology Academy
85
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Posted - 2013.02.25 11:23:00 -
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Zenos Ebeth wrote:Yes please , i was very sad when ccp removed smartbombing within docking range , this would be a nice substitute.
WTF is there some kind of transponder in the smartbomb module that detects that its illegally close to a station and won't activate?
You'd think that if you build the ship and smartbomb module yourself you could, oh I dunno, just NOT INSTALL THE TRANSPONDER?
Talk about breaking immersion...
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
618
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Posted - 2013.02.25 11:28:00 -
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Joran Dravius wrote:You know self destruct has such a long countdown you'll be dead before it goes off, right?
Well, imagine a suicide carrier fitted with max tank dealing over 25000 AOE, this would be funny to see on KB's
Ships killed 7B -Ships lost 12B to an AOE effect ;)
Suicide ganking blobs !!
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries
xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
72
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Posted - 2013.02.25 11:42:00 -
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Having a monocle should enable this feature!
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Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
229
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Posted - 2013.02.25 12:15:00 -
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*reads thread title*
then so will ships that explode due to excessive weapon damage.
bad idea is bad kthxbai |
Xearal
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
489
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Posted - 2013.02.25 12:28:00 -
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You forgot freigthers and jump freighters...
Now.. a freighter filled to the brim with ammo / inustrial explosives / bombs what have you.. it would be the new superweapon ;)
or if you don't mind spending a little.. a jump freighter..
Fleet fight ensues... hero cyno flies in and goes up in the middle of the enemy fleet.. Jump Freighter jumps in, and explodes.
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Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
229
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Posted - 2013.02.25 12:48:00 -
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Xearal wrote:You forgot freigthers and jump freighters...
Now.. a freighter filled to the brim with ammo / inustrial explosives / bombs what have you.. it would be the new superweapon ;)
or if you don't mind spending a little.. a jump freighter..
Fleet fight ensues... hero cyno flies in and goes up in the middle of the enemy fleet.. Jump Freighter jumps in, and explodes.
Bringing doomsday back!
that's definitely a winning argument why self-destructing should cause damage around the ship. |
Markku Laaksonen
EVE University
Ivy League
94
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Posted - 2013.02.25 13:29:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Why not have a chance for an externally initiated self-destruct (i.e. you've been destroyed by other people's guns) to explode catastrophically with an AoE as per a self-destruct?
And externally initiated self-destruct is called being blown the **** up. |
Arkane Mystic
POT Corp
Semper Ardens Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.02.25 14:20:00 -
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I support this idea.
I could put cargo expanders on my T1 frigate, load it up with T2 ammo and go fly it into the side of a unsuspecting freighter. |
Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
321
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Posted - 2013.02.25 14:24:00 -
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I support the idea of more damage, especially in the docking range of Jita 4-4.
New inventory: Getting better since version 1.2, but what about back and forward buttons? |
Degren
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2100
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Posted - 2013.02.25 15:10:00 -
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All I could think was Corpse Explosion from D2...but that was before I noticed 'self-destruct'
OP is bored/outraged/emotional? -áCheck. -áOP is in high sec? -áCheck. -áOP is in NPC or solo corp? -áCheck. -áOP demands CCP fix the situation? -áCheck. -áLaugh at OP |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2514
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Posted - 2013.02.25 16:34:00 -
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Pewty McPew wrote:2. Deny the enemy a killmail
Patchnotes: They are your friend. You now get a killmail.
Apparently booking your flight & accomodation to Iceland BEFORE you buy the tickets for the convention which is pretty much the only reason you wanted to go there in the first place is popular. |
Sentamon
687
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Posted - 2013.02.25 16:50:00 -
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Arkane Mystic wrote:I support this idea.
I could put cargo expanders on my T1 frigate, load it up with T2 ammo and go fly it into the side of a unsuspecting freighter.
I like the way you think.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
4055
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Posted - 2013.02.25 17:25:00 -
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Having AOE self destruct would be a rather cheap game mechanic. I don't think it has any place in this game.
Malcanis for CSM 8
Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
862
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Posted - 2013.02.25 17:44:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:
Also, why limit it to self-destruct? Why not have a chance for an externally initiated self-destruct (i.e. you've been destroyed by other people's guns) to explode catastrophically with an AoE as per a self-destruct?
So - Ammo that doesn't drop, instead goes off in secondary explosions? Cooooool...
And can those secondaries pod the pilot? Please..?! Maybe even trigger tertiary detonations in ammo that hasn't yet 'cooked off..?'
Even if the secondaries don't do AOE damage, I'd still lke to see them. Pop a frieghter full of ammo, instant fireworks! 
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Malcanis for CSM8 |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
285
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Posted - 2013.02.25 17:51:00 -
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Oh hey. Our thousands of suicide bombers newbies are our strength. +¦+¿+¡+º+å +º+ä+ä+ç.
You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Xearal
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
490
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Posted - 2013.02.26 02:06:00 -
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Ofcourse the person flying the ship that explodes would get podded instantly from an explosion like that, who cares, I want to ram a freighter filled to the brim with Bombs into a Titan.
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Ris Dnalor
L'Avant Garde
Happy Endings
454
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Posted - 2013.02.26 05:41:00 -
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Pewty McPew wrote:The current ship self-destruct system seems to be in place for 2 reasons.
1. Pod yourself to get back to your clone
2. Deny the enemy a killmail
What if CCP created an AOE damage wave to go along with the self destruct. The larger the ship the greater the damage wave and the further it extends. This wave would effect all the ships within it, friendly and enemy alike. Kinda like a smartbomb, only bigger.
for example something like:
Frigate - 500 hp to 4,000 meters
Cruiser - 750 hp to 5,000 meters
Battleship - 2500 hp to 7,500 meters
Carrier - 25,000 hp to 10,000 meters
Titan - 75,000 hp to 15,000 meters
These numbers are just examples and would certainly have to be tweaked.
It would give the player a list ditch, If I'm going down, I'm taking them with me option.
Would you be more apt to use the self destruct option knowing you might be able to take a few with you on the way out?
How would this change the fleet tactics being used currently?
in 2003 this was true, but the damage was so horribly small it didn't matter, then they took it away, and they took away the torpedo aoe splash damage, and they took away the deployable mines.... something about the client having to check to see what's damaged creating lag... boo
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Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron
Heart 0f Darkness
1629
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Posted - 2013.02.26 08:12:00 -
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I always liked this idea.
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