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lightstorm
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Posted - 2005.08.03 23:43:00 -
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Yesterday evening GUC came "close" in what might have been the first Freighter that got killed in combat.
Which looked like to be a normal evening in the Dantumi system, two sniping battleships blocking the Aurohunen gate (Blade UK and Lightstorm) and not that much traffic passing the system, turned out to be a FIX alliance rescue operation.
It all started when a FIX tristan entered the system, jumping via the Aurohunen gate into Dantumi. We both tried to lock it, but the little tristan got away. To our surprise not long after the tristan pilot decided to warp back to the gate and got killed and podded. This wasn't really a shocking or stunning event, but when shortly after the killing of the tristan a FIX Freighter appeared at the same location, will put this story in a different perspective. With our two sniping battleships we started shooting at the ship, got it into armor damage, but within 30 secondes it vanished.
We assumed that it jumped to get to a safer system. That assumption was wrong, we found out later on.
I didn't check time, but I believe it was around 15 minutes when the Dantumi system exploded with FIX alliance pilots and we had to warp to a safe. Then came the "shocking" news when a Council member stated that the FIX Freighter pilot had logged. The reason why the ship vanished from the screen wasn't jumping into another system but a simple press reset action. 
The FIX fleet made sure the guy was safe in the system, so he logged back on into eve. The rescue mission came to an end and they all lived happily ever after.
Well........ except for the FIX tristan pilot, he didn't make it.
The whole story raises a few questions:
1 Why was the Freighters entry point next to the Aurohunen gate, when the FIX tristan pilot knew we were at striking distance, if GUC had tackle battleships at the gate, like we had two days earlier, the chances for the very costly Freighter would have been small.
2 What was in the cargo of the Freighter, so i can start crying. 
3 Can any corporation confirm that they have killed a Freighter.
P.S. The reason I wrote this story is not because i want to degrade the FIX alliance or it's pilots, even the logging done by the Freighter pilot I can imagine.
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Voltron
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Posted - 2005.08.03 23:47:00 -
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Im pretty curious to hear if anyones ganked a freighter yet as well.
Volt
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Amataras
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Posted - 2005.08.03 23:52:00 -
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a close call... 
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Cloned Mark
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Posted - 2005.08.03 23:54:00 -
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I hope the scout got a slap
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.08.03 23:57:00 -
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Well seeing as this has made it onto the forums... and tbh it is vaguely news-worthy or at least of interest to the general reader....I'll copy and paste the thread referring to this incident from our very own forums, the names of the participants and other details shall be edited out to respect privacy.
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Heres my story.
I am a multi-account runner. ********* ********** *********.
while on a trade run with a freighter (2 bil cost ) i ******** entered dantumi system in lonetrek in a tristan for scout . 2 GUC corp members where there in a thron and apoc with T2 large guns they podded me, before i could turn autopilot off ********** (frieghter pilot) he jumped in. I freaked out and logged him off. Not knowing if he was gonna survive or not i requested alliance ch. for help. ******** quickly took over the situation. Within 10-15 min an extraction team was in dantumi and i logged ******** back on. HE WAS ALIVE AND FRIGHTER STILL THERE. He had 78% armor left. The gang then escorted me to my destination. The total value of ship and cargo was **********. i felt a reward of ***** total value was in order. I paid out 400 mil to be divide between the honorable men who came to save my butt.
This is my account and testimony that fix did care and did come to aid when asked.
I would like a list of the ppl involved posted here if possible so i can thank them individually.
To all of you i thank you.
And there you have a pretty accurate description of Events and a story that did have a happy ending for the freighter pilot and his rescuers at least 
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Altai Saker
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Posted - 2005.08.04 00:03:00 -
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why didnt the frieghter just warp out insteed of logging... what a dumbass.
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.08.04 00:24:00 -
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Good luck killing 100k+ structure fast with 2 sniping battleships :p |
Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.08.04 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: Altai Saker
why didnt the frieghter just warp out insteed of logging... what a dumbass.
Like it says in the account I posted, he panicked, that usually signifies good judgement goes out the window....  No need to be nasty....
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2005.08.04 00:36:00 -
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Panic or no panic, 2 isk or 2bil. Loging off is bad and a total disrespect of the game.
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flummox
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Posted - 2005.08.04 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Zarquon Beeblebrox
Panic or no panic, 2 isk or 2bil. Loging off is bad and a total disrespect of the game.
i don't think anyone could say it better...
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Valdi
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Posted - 2005.08.04 00:51:00 -
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cant blame the guy, act of panic i guess :)
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.08.04 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Zarquon Beeblebrox
Panic or no panic, 2 isk or 2bil. Loging off is bad and a total disrespect of the game.
Oh I and FIX agree entirely on that point, but thats not the main attraction of the story really, I would say the ship is the main focal point and the circumstances
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2005.08.04 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Zarquon Beeblebrox
Panic or no panic, 2 isk or 2bil. Loging off is bad and a total disrespect of the game.
I'll be the first one to say that I don't like logging.
Give the guy a break though, at least he was honest about it, unlike certain people that wander these forums and always seem to have a "system crash" about the same time their ship is going to die.
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CdCommander
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Posted - 2005.08.04 01:22:00 -
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logging is bad, mmmmmkay kids
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Rofel Meights
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Posted - 2005.08.04 01:29:00 -
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unlucky GUC, nice to see your still striking horror into some peoples eyes! 
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PhasmaNL
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Posted - 2005.08.04 03:42:00 -
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Originally by: Zarquon Beeblebrox
Panic or no panic, 2 isk or 2bil. Loging off is bad and a total disrespect of the game.
FIX agrees. And I can honestly say that the topic on the FIX Forums has been filled with FIX members posting exactly the same thing. The pilot knows he was wrong.
For other ppl reading this topic, please don't keep repeating this, we all agree and admit it is wrong.
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lord masher
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Posted - 2005.08.04 04:12:00 -
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that sounds like a sad story. sorry you missed out on a ganking lads logging off is a chickens way out and he should ov took the ganking like a good little boy.And the lad in the tristan should be podded just for being a muppet and not telling his corp members about the danger
ps.just think about the time you saved hauling the loot tho yar YAR YAR missed out on his pies and iskies YAR
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benwallace
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Posted - 2005.08.04 04:13:00 -
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my spies tell me teh cargo hold was full of morphite all m3 was fille 
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PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2005.08.04 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
Good luck killing 100k+ structure fast with 2 sniping battleships :p
What he said.
Close? I think not.
Nice try though.
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.08.04 04:20:00 -
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tbh, if FIX wants to retain any self-respect, they should kick the logger..
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.08.04 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
Good luck killing 100k+ structure fast with 2 sniping battleships :p
Yeah, structure has uber resists
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Voltex
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Posted - 2005.08.04 06:41:00 -
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GUC FTW!!!
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.08.04 07:28:00 -
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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka
tbh, if FIX wants to retain any self-respect, they should kick the logger..
Fun story, and yes the chapp panic. Fix have manny times shoot or kicked members for logging.
While i my self have encounterd manny pilots logging when i have got close o them, "scrambled and dieing ;)"
And a few days l8ter they have been saying on EVE-O i dont logg, logg is bad bla bla.
I even got a email from a ceo once that i mailed and told that his member logged to go to hell..
So basicly i dont give a rat ass about what u think m8t. Fix deals whit its members, u dont.
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Smith
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Posted - 2005.08.04 07:29:00 -
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Not trying to funny but unless that Frieghter was being tackled there is no way those Snipers would of got it. Im actually stunned the guy logged...if it were me I would of laughed tbh.
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Thyro
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Posted - 2005.08.04 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: Gungankllr
Originally by: Zarquon Beeblebrox
Panic or no panic, 2 isk or 2bil. Loging off is bad and a total disrespect of the game.
I'll be the first one to say that I don't like logging.
Give the guy a break though, at least he was honest about it, unlike certain people that wander these forums and always seem to have a "system crash" about the same time their ship is going to die.
Wasn't suppose that last patch added 30m waiting time or something like that?
30 minutes or 30 days? (now I'm confused!)
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V2GBR
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Posted - 2005.08.04 08:12:00 -
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Edited by: V2GBR on 04/08/2005 08:12:52
Well, im happy my pilots had some fun.
Even though the kill was not made and even if he never logged the kill may not have been made unless the pilot just sat there and held his hands up.
Im just glad they had a chance to shoot at the almighty freighter and have some fun.
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djNME
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Posted - 2005.08.04 08:30:00 -
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heya,
Great attitude v2...
As said all he had to do was warp out.It was not a situation of omg i'm running 5 systems being tackled with warp stabs and i have to log.I think logging is lame, but this was a mistake and he claimed it.I'm sure it wasn't received well, by other fixers like me.However mistakes happen and lets hope it don't happen again.The chance of them taking it anyways was very slim, but nice to know fix has one now eh... oh, well.
Good camping guys and i bet it was neat to see that ship in your overview and feel your heart pounding a bit with somethign different.;)
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Astarte Nosferatu
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Posted - 2005.08.04 08:52:00 -
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He paid out 400mil to his resque team...
What the hell was he carrying, and why didn't he use an escort in the first place?
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Nira Li
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Posted - 2005.08.04 09:04:00 -
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You should make him give you all the loot and then make him self-destruct it 
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JimmySav
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Posted - 2005.08.04 09:09:00 -
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go FIX...
the only other Alliance I like. (well i kind of admire the minma / mar rp ones to)
Apart from the logging (and panic can be excused sometimes..i often wonder how people can run multiple accounts) the rescue story and generious rescue payments are all admirable.
Hopefully [5] Will begin to post some freighter and dread kills soon....
Jim'll Fix it For You. ( and you and you!)
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Anna Sheridan
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Posted - 2005.08.04 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: TWD
Good luck killing 100k+ structure fast with 2 sniping battleships :p
Yeah, structure has uber resists
That's still the equivalent of 40-45k of tanked armor, more than enough time for the pilot to go take a coffee and warp away.
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.08.04 09:44:00 -
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All I can say is the poor guy did the wrong thing, having said that the ship was not scrambled it could have warped away np. the two snipping BS could not have killed it before it warped, no way it has 4k shields 21k armor and about 120k structure.
The guy also is not a pvp pilot in anyway and genrally runs 4 accounts ( think he is mad for that bit ), put it down to panic and forget about it, FIX does punish pilots who log off in combat but this pilot is as I said not a pvp jock in anyway.
" Stay Frosty "
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Farjung
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Posted - 2005.08.04 09:47:00 -
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If only you'd had some scan probes ;).
(This is based on the assumption that the pvp timer is activated when someone fires on you even if you don't aggress back, which I think is correct? But I could be wrong.)
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.08.04 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Farjung
If only you'd had some scan probes ;).
(This is based on the assumption that the pvp timer is activated when someone fires on you even if you don't aggress back, which I think is correct? But I could be wrong.)
even with the freighter having instas and its long alignment to warp it would have got away as it did not have to wait at gates for aggro timer like the 2 bs would. really the logging is lame but as said he did log ( not system crash isp failure or the usual excuse ) people use he just logged. he could have escaped anyway and they still would never have gotten the kill unless they could scramble him.
" Stay Frosty "
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Albus
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Posted - 2005.08.04 10:05:00 -
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Edited by: Albus on 04/08/2005 10:07:32
Edited by: Albus on 04/08/2005 10:06:44
Edited by: Albus on 04/08/2005 10:06:01
Edited by: Albus on 04/08/2005 10:04:52
Originally by: Farjung
If only you'd had some scan probes ;).
(This is based on the assumption that the pvp timer is activated when someone fires on you even if you don't aggress back, which I think is correct? But I could be wrong.)
Yes, the PVP timer is activated when someone fires on you (otherwise it would not serve it's purpose, which is to stop people running and instantly logging.)
An interesitng question though, is whether it is possible for the PVP timer to be activated AFTER you have logged off, even if you had not been in combat prior to logging off? Ie, if you see hostiles and log off just before they engage, do you still end up with a PVP timer if they manage to engage before your ship warps, or is the type of timer used determined by your state at log off and not altered thereafter? I have no idea, needs some testing.
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.08.04 10:10:00 -
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Originally by: Albus
Edited by: Albus on 04/08/2005 10:07:32
Edited by: Albus on 04/08/2005 10:06:44
Edited by: Albus on 04/08/2005 10:06:01
Edited by: Albus on 04/08/2005 10:04:52
Originally by: Farjung
If only you'd had some scan probes ;).
(This is based on the assumption that the pvp timer is activated when someone fires on you even if you don't aggress back, which I think is correct? But I could be wrong.)
Yes, the PVP timer is activated when someone fires on you (otherwise it would not serve it's purpose, which is to stop people running and instantly logging.)
An interesitng question though, is whether it is possible for the PVP timer to be activated AFTER you have logged off, even if you had not been in combat prior to logging off? Ie, if you see hostiles and log off just before they engage, do you still end up with a PVP timer if they manage to engage before your ship warps, or is the type of timer used determined by your state at log off and not altered thereafter? I have no idea, needs some testing.
well the ship disappeared and reappeared in armor damage so either a he logged while clocked at the gate and there fore the pvp timer does not activate as he is not online at the first shot been fired or B he logged after the first shot but because he did not shoot himself the timer only applies if you shoot back.
" Stay Frosty "
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whejl
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Posted - 2005.08.04 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: PaulAtreides
Originally by: TWD
Good luck killing 100k+ structure fast with 2 sniping battleships :p
What he said.
Close? I think not.
Nice try though.
On the other hand, imagine the repair cost if some of that hull goes away!
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Farjung
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Posted - 2005.08.04 10:50:00 -
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Edited by: Farjung on 04/08/2005 10:51:00
Originally by: Albus
Originally by: Farjung
If only you'd had some scan probes ;).
(This is based on the assumption that the pvp timer is activated when someone fires on you even if you don't aggress back, which I think is correct? But I could be wrong.)
Yes, the PVP timer is activated when someone fires on you (otherwise it would not serve it's purpose, which is to stop people running and instantly logging.)
An interesitng question though, is whether it is possible for the PVP timer to be activated AFTER you have logged off, even if you had not been in combat prior to logging off? Ie, if you see hostiles and log off just before they engage, do you still end up with a PVP timer if they manage to engage before your ship warps, or is the type of timer used determined by your state at log off and not altered thereafter? I have no idea, needs some testing.
I half-tested this in an op a couple of weeks ago. Had an apoc sitting at a safe after we entered local, initiated the scan and he logged just after I had started the scan. 75 seconds later the scan revealed the location of his log-off safe, and I activated the ecm on my buzzard (the only vaguely hostile module I had fitted on my buzzard at the time) as soon as I came out of warp. The rest of the gang also warped to me, but they dropped out of warp just as his log-off timer expired and his ship disappeared so they didn't get a chance to shoot at him.
So, assuming that ECM counts as a hostile act that is sufficient to activate the pvp timer, no it isn't possible to find a ship that's under the usual shorter timer and kick him into the pvp timer. But like you say it would need to be tested properly to be proven conclusively.
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Farjung
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Posted - 2005.08.04 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: corporal hicks
Originally by: Farjung
If only you'd had some scan probes ;).
(This is based on the assumption that the pvp timer is activated when someone fires on you even if you don't aggress back, which I think is correct? But I could be wrong.)
even with the freighter having instas and its long alignment to warp it would have got away as it did not have to wait at gates for aggro timer like the 2 bs would. really the logging is lame but as said he did log ( not system crash isp failure or the usual excuse ) people use he just logged. he could have escaped anyway and they still would never have gotten the kill unless they could scramble him.
My point was that when he got shot and logged, he was under the influence of the pvp timer, so his ship would have stayed in space for 15 minutes after he logged, during which they could have found his automatically created log-off safe (dropping three 3AU probes at the gate would have done the trick as the automatically created safe is only 1,000,000 km away from where the person logs off) and ganked him.
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Apoll
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Posted - 2005.08.04 11:01:00 -
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I think the Gods Unwanted guys need to do a petition ASAP.
Another new cheat/exploit found. The ship had to go first to warp either way with or without the timers. And it takes a hell of a lot time to do.
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.08.04 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Apoll
I think the Gods Unwanted guys need to do a petition ASAP.
Another new cheat/exploit found. The ship had to go first to warp either way with or without the timers. And it takes a hell of a lot time to do.
Nah it takes about 45 secs to do it and when it came back it had lost all its shileds and 25% armor so it had taken 10k damage in the space it needed to warp. remember they were using snipers with long range ammo so no exploit really happened, only thing is the log off, the ship was not scrambled and it could have escaped anyway.
" Stay Frosty "
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2005.08.04 11:55:00 -
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So it's okay to log off if you panic, or if you have expensive cargo, or do you have to panic because you have expensive cargo to be able to log off and it's "ok".
Whether or not he could have or would have escaped is irrelevant. The dude logged. He should fly his posh freighter back, full of goodies, and self destruct it for the pirates.
Sorry to hear your kill was taken from you gods.
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Redblade
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Posted - 2005.08.04 12:01:00 -
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About the logoff timer, got to test this yesterday as we scaned 2 ships that had loged in ss after a pvp engagement and sadly CCP have missed one small detail with it and that's if u manage to scan the ship down u better kill it before the original timer expires as it doesent restart even if u fire on the ship.
Pod seems to get a new timer after the ship have been destroyed tho.
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Posted - 2005.08.04 12:36:00 -
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Edited by: Hellspawn666 on 04/08/2005 12:37:01
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Hellspawn666
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Posted - 2005.08.04 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: KIATolon
So it's okay to log off if you panic, or if you have expensive cargo, or do you have to panic because you have expensive cargo to be able to log off and it's "ok".
Whether or not he could have or would have escaped is irrelevant. The dude logged. He should fly his posh freighter back, full of goodies, and self destruct it for the pirates.
Sorry to hear your kill was taken from you gods.
Dude dont be so harsh when people are not experieanced with pvp they panic and do stupid **** like this everyone makes mistatkes. Maybe if hed been in a fully fitted pvp bs and logged i might of *****ed but this isnt really a big deal dont make it one. People from every alliance used to log anyway i know this because i used to hunt in pretty much every alliances space and have experainced logs offs every time, but now it isnt an issue consideirng hte 15 minutes timer which is also bugged (my ship died 33 minutes after id logged at a safespot with no probs and 15 minutes after id last been aggressted), So if theyd really been after him theyd of had plenty of time to kil him.
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.08.04 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Hellspawn666
Originally by: KIATolon
So it's okay to log off if you panic, or if you have expensive cargo, or do you have to panic because you have expensive cargo to be able to log off and it's "ok".
Whether or not he could have or would have escaped is irrelevant. The dude logged. He should fly his posh freighter back, full of goodies, and self destruct it for the pirates.
Sorry to hear your kill was taken from you gods.
Thx for a good post hellspawn, just what i planed to say, it aint ok to logg. But its more understandble then alot of "hardcore uber pvpers" that have logged when we have ganked them.
Dude dont be so harsh when people are not experieanced with pvp they panic and do stupid **** like this everyone makes mistatkes. Maybe if hed been in a fully fitted pvp bs and logged i might of *****ed but this isnt really a big deal dont make it one. People from every alliance used to log anyway i know this because i used to hunt in pretty much every alliances space and have experainced logs offs every time, but now it isnt an issue consideirng hte 15 minutes timer which is also bugged (my ship died 33 minutes after id logged at a safespot with no probs and 15 minutes after id last been aggressted), So if theyd really been after him theyd of had plenty of time to kil him.
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Posted - 2005.08.04 13:37:00 -
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Sorry, but I disagree, its never ok to log, under any circumstances.
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2005.08.04 13:39:00 -
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I am reading from the great Alliances that log off is bad!
Good thing PVP pilots dont do that! They are "initiating strategic military plans of aggression". They are not logging off to avoid an overwhelming fight!
Carebears that do it should be kicked!!!
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2005.08.04 13:49:00 -
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lightstorm Quote:
I believe it was around 15 minutes when the Dantumi system exploded with FIX alliance pilots and we had to warp to a safe.
OHHH the Horror!!! Run away you little snipers it would be soo unfair that a fleet would harm your ships.
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Admiral Pieg
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Posted - 2005.08.04 14:09:00 -
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He travelled around without an escort? borderline insanity ftw?
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.08.04 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: KIATolon
Whether or not he could have or would have escaped is irrelevant. The dude logged. He should fly his posh freighter back, full of goodies, and self destruct it for the pirates.
I concur. And for the sake of the well-being of the community as a whole, I think he should bring another one to me so I could shoot it.
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.08.04 14:26:00 -
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was he scrambled: NO
was there a chance the 2 snipers could kill him: NO
Did they have the ability to warp scamble him: NO they probably did not.
Did he say he had a system crash lag crash ect: NO he addmited he panicked plain and simple instead of the usual bull all the pvp types do, o man lag crash O man system crash O man Blue screen of death ect.
Is he a Pvp pilot: NO
Does FIX condone logging in comabt to save your ship : NO
was he going to lose his ship: NO
No matter how you try spin it, the 2 snipers had no chance in hell of killing this ship without been able to scramble it, he could have warped to his next insta into the next system and away the snipers with aggro timer would never have caught the ship.
Its not like you were denied a kill by what happened even if he did not log you would not have gotten the kill.
" Stay Frosty "
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2005.08.04 14:37:00 -
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i am glad it surived.. then i still have the chance to be on the first freighter kill mail MUhaha
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Jezebel
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Posted - 2005.08.04 14:38:00 -
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I say for loothauling Tormentor FTW!!
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Katyan Silverspear
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Posted - 2005.08.04 14:45:00 -
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just becouse his a freighter carebear pilot and could lose billions doesnt mean its "OKAY" to log off.
makes me sick tbh!
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.08.04 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Katyan Silverspear
just becouse his a freighter carebear pilot and could lose billions doesnt mean its "OKAY" to log off.
makes me sick tbh!
When was it said its ok to log off? no one said that all that has been said is there is no chance that him logging would have changed the outcome, they simply could not have killed the ship in time without a scramble.
" Stay Frosty "
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Jinten Chorm
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Posted - 2005.08.04 14:48:00 -
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Can't believe some of you people, one person logs and all hell breaks loose. Someone else logs off and yeash its fine he paniced.
I can't see the FIX boards, but I'm quite sure people are having a dig at him.
Lame lame lame lame...
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.08.04 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jinten Chorm
Can't believe some of you people, one person logs and all hell breaks loose. Someone else logs off and yeash its fine he paniced.
I can't see the FIX boards, but I'm quite sure people are having a dig at him.
Lame lame lame lame...
I can and yes they are , its not as bad as here but yes he has been spanked on our boards also.
" Stay Frosty "
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Jonkai
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Posted - 2005.08.04 14:49:00 -
[59]
That was me... 
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lightstorm
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Posted - 2005.08.04 14:57:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Farjung
If only you'd had some scan probes ;).
(This is based on the assumption that the pvp timer is activated when someone fires on you even if you don't aggress back, which I think is correct? But I could be wrong.)
Farjung, like i said the Freighter vanished while we were shooting at it, the ship didn't warp away. We both scanned the system after the inciedent, no Freighter popped up on our scanners. Scanning probes wouldn't have made any difference in the outcome. This might had to do with his logging straight away, before getting shot at, or a timer malfunction, or he didn't shoot back himself. No Freighter on the scanner, no target, bye bye loot or some nice X amount ransom cash from the FIX alliance.
But we will get our next chance, might not be FIX, ....... cause the more Freighters in the game the bigger the chance.
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V2GBR
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Posted - 2005.08.04 15:01:00 -
[61]
Originally by: lightstorm
P.S. The reason I wrote this story is not because i want to degrade the FIX alliance or it's pilots, even the logging done by the Freighter pilot I can imagine.
Just thought i would qoute that again as the topic seems to be drifting.
Oh and ill qoute my last comment.
Originally by: V2GBR
Edited by: V2GBR on 04/08/2005 08:12:52
Well, im happy my pilots had some fun.
Even though the kill was not made and even if he never logged the kill may not have been made unless the pilot just sat there and held his hands up.
Im just glad they had a chance to shoot at the almighty freighter and have some fun.
Please all of you calm down.
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2005.08.04 15:28:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: TWD
Good luck killing 100k+ structure fast with 2 sniping battleships :p
Yeah, structure has uber resists
Real men structure tank.
"TO THETR DRUMNBS OF WAR WET GHO"
2005.06.17 07:15:13 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer
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Leilani Solaris
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Posted - 2005.08.04 15:34:00 -
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Nobody in FIX thinks it is ok to log off, and it certainly isn't encouraged. that being said, you can't always gaurantee a pilot will stay logged on. also, there was no way 2 sniping battleships would have killed the freighter. I'm sure if it was a stain freighter that logged off there wouldn't be such a fuss...
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Waut
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Posted - 2005.08.04 16:52:00 -
[64]
Freighters have feelings to you know
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hezie99
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Posted - 2005.08.04 17:01:00 -
[65]
tbh id log my freighter off to lol if i had one of course heh
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2005.08.04 17:50:00 -
[66]
Nice going boys, shame there werent more of us
On a side note, i`m very impressed with the Fix responce time, for an alliance thats amazing.
Guc arent interested in petitioning or anything else for those in the thread that asked. I would be interested to know if FIX diciplined him in anyway, other than the forum?(doesnt matter tbh just curious)
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.08.04 17:58:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Kaleeb
Nice going boys, shame there werent more of us
On a side note, i`m very impressed with the Fix responce time, for an alliance thats amazing.
Guc arent interested in petitioning or anything else for those in the thread that asked. I would be interested to know if FIX diciplined him in anyway, other than the forum?(doesnt matter tbh just curious)
he is not a FIX pvp pilot, dont think he has ever even been to the Querious region tbh, he has been verbally bashed on the FIX forums, the rest is up to his CEO, am sure knowing his CEO he will get a bashing there also.
As said it is a big deal, we do not want pilots to do stuff like this, but considering the pilot in question and his total and I mean total lack of any type of pvp I put it down to just what it is panic.
" Stay Frosty "
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Waut
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Posted - 2005.08.04 17:59:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Kaleeb
I would be interested to know if FIX diciplined him in anyway, other than the forum?(doesnt matter tbh just curious)
Apart from sacrifing and/or eating his first born son I have no idea
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Static Ga'lraith
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Posted - 2005.08.04 22:24:00 -
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I can't say anything that hasn't already been said in this thread except you'll get 'em next time, GUC
Oh, and while I can fully understand that the pilot paniced and logged off, I can also understand that if he had kept calm, he could have warped away. He made a mistake. The only thing I would expect from the offending pilot is to offer an apology to the GUC pilots and let his own corp deal with him how they see fit.
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1tch
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Posted - 2005.08.04 22:30:00 -
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I am amazed that the content off the freighter as stated on the FIX forums still is not named here.
Or the estimate total value.
Typical FIX to reprimand on something that is not even theirs.
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2005.08.04 23:02:00 -
[71]
Originally by: 1tch
I am amazed that the content off the freighter as stated on the FIX forums still is not named here.
Or the estimate total value.
Typical FIX to reprimand on something that is not even theirs.
Huh?
www.hadean.org
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Silk 1972
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Posted - 2005.08.05 00:08:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Silk 1972 on 05/08/2005 00:09:39
Why should the pilot disclose his cargo... U guys need a life, the guy got caught off guard and survived and even if u don't like his log off tactics SO WHAT....
All u guys who are *****ing are just jealous cause u cant afford a Freighter or the cargo.
Sad To***rs
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2005.08.05 02:14:00 -
[73]
He really should have used an escort in the first place instead of trying to use 2 accounts. That was his mistake.
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.08.05 02:19:00 -
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normally i would agree that logging is lame ;p but that guy obviously did not do it on purpose, it probably would have been faster (and safer, cause it could have stayed there for a full 15min ;p) if he just warped to an ss or station, hell he coulda made an ss and safed. this guy didnt do it intentionally, and im sure if u guys thought ur hard worked for 2 bil isk ship was in danger u would have some kind of spaz reaction
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.08.05 04:11:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Dao 2
this guy didnt do it intentionally
Quote:
Heres my story.
I freaked out and logged him off.
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BirdBleed
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Posted - 2005.08.05 04:50:00 -
[76]
a industrial character logs off his freighter ....
a F-E pilot in his arma sits on a gate ... has 3 named wcs fitted ... and after we kill him he logs to save his pod ...
which is worse hmmmmm......
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LokeDemonG
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Posted - 2005.08.05 07:36:00 -
[77]
Log off was a trick i learnd from FIX in 9c, unfortnaly me first try to log off i forgot to turn on the armor rep's, was learing experince.
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csebal
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Posted - 2005.08.05 07:52:00 -
[78]
From what i understand, the ship wasnt 'warping out to a logoff safespot', but 'disappearing'.
Given the fact, that it was being shooted at, i can only imagine that there is a bug in the logoff code, where if you log off before the enemy starts to shoot you, you get the 1 minute timer, even if the enemy starts to engage you in the meantime.
Not that it would have killed the guy, as two sniper BSes would not have been able to prevent it from warping out. Its just odd, as it also means, that dreads / freighters are invincible, as long their pilots log off in time.
I do smell a bug here.
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.08.05 07:54:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Mindlles on 05/08/2005 07:55:29
Originally by: LokeDemonG
Log off was a trick i learnd from FIX in 9c, unfortnaly me first try to log off i forgot to turn on the armor rep's, was learing experince.
who was your teacher, as u wherent to good at it, As we bashed ur ss and poofed u guys before u realised what happend, well untill u stoped logging in... more then 85 sec ;)
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.08.05 08:35:00 -
[80]
Logging off is for scum.
Fix should be ashamed.
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we is doing it in space.
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Lord Sidon
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Posted - 2005.08.05 09:18:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Mindlles
Edited by: Mindlles on 05/08/2005 07:55:29
Originally by: LokeDemonG
Log off was a trick i learnd from FIX in 9c, unfortnaly me first try to log off i forgot to turn on the armor rep's, was learing experince.
who was your teacher, as u wherent to good at it, As we bashed ur ss and poofed u guys before u realised what happend, well untill u stoped logging in... more then 85 sec ;)
Mindlles m8 it's not called a MASS LOG OFF for nothing as we all know.
and as for the FIX pilot logging off it's a damn good job i was not online or I would have gone to help him die
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Soros
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Posted - 2005.08.05 09:23:00 -
[82]
Close, but no cookie :p
he was carrying goods to the value of roughly 2 billion.
The tristan pilot had a FACTION WEBBER, i kinda feel sorry it didn't survive,
Its great the fact that this isn't a smack thread, like gingermagitians OMG I KILLED A LARGE ARMOUR REP II BPO . . .
-= Soros =-
BoB
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Dray
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Posted - 2005.08.05 09:35:00 -
[83]
I have an alt with a freighter, so just for future reference with this thread in mind, I will panic and log off. Thnx for understanding.
I picked up this ace book today everyone rates it as a must buy for the budding military genius, tho ive decided to rename it as "Sun Tzu's art of the bloody obvious" |
LokedemonM
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Posted - 2005.08.05 12:30:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Mindlles
Edited by: Mindlles on 05/08/2005 07:55:29
Originally by: LokeDemonG
Log off was a trick i learnd from FIX in 9c, unfortnaly me first try to log off i forgot to turn on the armor rep's, was learing experince.
who was your teacher, as u wherent to good at it, As we bashed ur ss and poofed u guys before u realised what happend, well untill u stoped logging in... more then 85 sec ;)
That true Mindles, i still suck at it. It was numours FIX members that eveing that logged off so thats who the teacher was. when our SS got hit i PANICKED and logged. hence i forgot the reps i think.
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Shavril Pandora
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Posted - 2005.08.05 12:43:00 -
[85]
So, after the amount of whining from FIX regarding certain people logging off in space (and not during combat, which is bad enough), most of the FIX posts here are actually in defence of a FIX freighter pilot logging, while in combat. Apparently not being a PVP pilot, or panicking, or having a huge amount of cargo, or something, makes it acceptable for a FIX pilot to log during combat, but heaven forbid anyone logs off in space in their claimed territory, whilst not actually in combat.
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Lord Sidon
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Posted - 2005.08.05 12:53:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Shavril Pandora
So, after the amount of whining from FIX regarding certain people logging off in space (and not during combat, which is bad enough), most of the FIX posts here are actually in defence of a FIX freighter pilot logging, while in combat. Apparently not being a PVP pilot, or panicking, or having a huge amount of cargo, or something, makes it acceptable for a FIX pilot to log during combat, but heaven forbid anyone logs off in space in their claimed territory, whilst not actually in combat.
Hypocrisy. Complete and total hypocrisy.
read the post. we dont flame our own on the E-O forums m8. but on our own forums we have said and done all that needs doing.
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Boldyn
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Posted - 2005.08.05 13:43:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Shavril Pandora
So, after the amount of whining from FIX regarding certain people logging off in space (and not during combat, which is bad enough), most of the FIX posts here are actually in defence of a FIX freighter pilot logging, while in combat. Apparently not being a PVP pilot, or panicking, or having a huge amount of cargo, or something, makes it acceptable for a FIX pilot to log during combat, but heaven forbid anyone logs off in space in their claimed territory, whilst not actually in combat.
Hypocrisy. Complete and total hypocrisy.
Mommie look, a Stain alt with no hair, run awaaaay!!!11
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2005.08.05 13:47:00 -
[88]
funny
whenever in danger, do the panic manouver!
"We brake for nobody"
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1tch
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Posted - 2005.08.05 13:53:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Soros
Close, but no cookie :p
he was carrying goods to the value of roughly 2 billion.
The tristan pilot had a FACTION WEBBER, i kinda feel sorry it didn't survive,
Its great the fact that this isn't a smack thread, like gingermagitians OMG I KILLED A LARGE ARMOUR REP II BPO . . .
Webber + freigther ..........I see a deadly combi there.
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Dray
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Posted - 2005.08.05 14:29:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Lord Sidon
read the post. we dont flame our own on the E-O forums m8. but on our own forums we have said and done all that needs doing.
Where you flame him isnt the issue, I find it hard to accept a player with multiple accounts whos been playing long enough to amass enough isk to buy a freighter and fill it with a 2B cargo would "panic" in my opinion and to brutally blunt hes lying. Any panic would probably been in the order of "OMG my 2B freighter and its cargo" then even tho he probably realised he would be ok he wasnt prepared to take that chance so he quite deliberately logged.
Good effort tho, as i said in my earlier post we now have a get out of jail free card without fear of being flamed, lets all fit a panic button.
You choose to take risks and weigh them against the consequences, some you win, some lose. But luckily for some theres also a 3rd option in eve he chose that one.
I picked up this ace book today everyone rates it as a must buy for the budding military genius, tho ive decided to rename it as "Sun Tzu's art of the bloody obvious" |
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Posted - 2005.08.05 14:40:00 -
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Edited by: Trina Tron on 05/08/2005 14:40:09
I like how this guy logged off his main guy on to a alt to avoide the 15minute pvp log off timer. Im pritty sure thats a exploit and if not it should be. Fix your polits have much honnor.
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Shafty
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Posted - 2005.08.05 14:42:00 -
[92]
Afternoon all, I think the lesson learned here is that we will always have a huge impassable gatecamp on the go in future :)
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.08.05 15:41:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Shafty
Afternoon all, I think the lesson learned here is that we will always have a huge impassable gatecamp on the go in future :)
No the lesson is to scramble people before you kill them :P
If they had of had one tackler there would be one very angry FIX pilot and a few very happy pirates
Logging is lame, but he would have escaped that first engagement anyway.
That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.08.05 16:49:00 -
[94]
I'd like to take a moment to further defend the actions of the FIX pilot as well as clarify how some mechanics in this game works. I'll start with the mechanics in question.
When you log off, the game takes a log-off timer which is dependent on your PvP-state. This state has it's own timer which ticks down 15 minutes from when you last took part in an act of agression (doesn't matter if you were on the recieving end). The log-off timer is completely independant of the agression timer.
This means that if you log off before you take part in an agression, your log-off timer will not be the full 15 minutes regardless of how people try to shoot at you (or in the case of a stuck smartbomb, get into the blast sphere)!
Hence, the pilot clearly logged off before he was engaged in combat.
When you log off, your ship will try to warp away before (or actually, regardless) the game "cloaks" the ship. If the ship is unable to warp away, it will keep trying until it does. I'm fairly certain that the ship will not try to gather speed, as per a normal "warp to object" action that fails due to scrrambling.
If the ship is unable to establish where it is and thus is unable to establish a valid warp-to location, such as when you log when doing a stargate jump, your ship will not try to warp away at all. This is a common and well known feature that has been in the game for a very long time. I myself learnt it by watching the CA russians (and others who were merely visiting Cache) save their ships by "ghost-jumping", but I am certain the occurence of these kind of jumps were not limited to CA in any way.
Hence the pilot logged before he got into the system, while recieving the "jumping to stargate in system" information overlay
Also, if the information that he payed 400 million to make his hauler safe, then we may all, as the unaffected community, consider this a good fine for his action. Considering unthreatened the freighter truely was, this is not something to cause a fuss over at all. Not to mention the faction webbifier lost due to the panic (I am certain a calm pilot would never send his futile scout back to check again).
I am willing to simply make a statement on those who do make a fuss over it: these people are completely unconcerned about the use of exploits, pilot ethics and combat ethics. The people expressing and pressing concern over this event are simply out for simplistic and very base political slander.
In closing, I'd like to add my curiosity to lightstorm and ask what truely was freighted (a general description, please) to merit such a panic as well as 400 million to make it safe again. I'd also like to note that lightstorm kept his replies (as far as I saw) proffessional, friendly, and to the point.
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Shavril Pandora
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Posted - 2005.08.05 18:55:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Ithildin
Hence, the pilot clearly logged off before he was engaged in combat.
Originally by: Ithildin
The people expressing and pressing concern over this event are simply out for simplistic and very base political slander.
Professional spin meister to the rescue \o/
Well, not really. Spin it however you like, the pilot logged when he knew his ship was in danger.
The pilot did NOT know the 2 sniping BS were the only ships in system, or close at hand. He did not know they didn't have a scrambling frigate nearby, or on a safespot, etc.
What he did know was that he was in danger of losing an expensive ship, with an expensive cargo. He then logged. The oh-so-very-fine distinction that the freighter was not quite yet actually engaged when he logged is pointless and meaningless and everyone reading these forums knows it. The freighter pilots alt saw the enemy ships. The freighter pilot knew of the danger. He was actually shot at, and unless I'm very sorely mistaken, I believe that constitutes "combat".
He logged.
The people expressing concern over this event are the same Eve citizens and forum readers who have for quite a long time listened to FIX slander many groups for questionable actions, and yet now a FIX pilot performs the most questionable act of them all, logging off during combat (or if you prefer, logging off JUST BEFORE combat, although you're fully aware of it).
What do we see in response? FIX posts trying to rationilize and excuse why, in this case, its okay the pilot logged. Panic, or expensive cargo, or "hes not a PVP pilot", or whatever else are not acceptable and we all know it.
It is hypocrisy of a wonderfully grand scale. It is arrogance and underhandedness. FIX has now demonstrated that they fully deserve any "political slander" anyone, anywhere cares to throw their way, although its hardly political slander when its quite evidently the truth. |
Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.08.05 20:48:00 -
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to the guys still keeping this post up, Come and play whit us or stfu.
This has been delt whit, and it was a nice post of the gods guys.
To the rest of u, as the vice boldyn always said, STFU
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heavyg
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Posted - 2005.08.05 22:24:00 -
[97]
Edited by: heavyg on 05/08/2005 22:27:17
Edited by: heavyg on 05/08/2005 22:23:58
how many times must it be said it has been dealt with internally.
I am sorry but until CCP puts Stocks in Yulai there is little more we can do mkay
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Boldyn
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Posted - 2005.08.05 23:28:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Shavril Pandora
Originally by: Ithildin
Hence, the pilot clearly logged off before he was engaged in combat.
Originally by: Ithildin
The people expressing and pressing concern over this event are simply out for simplistic and very base political slander.
Professional spin meister to the rescue \o/
Well, not really. Spin it however you like, the pilot logged when he knew his ship was in danger.
The pilot did NOT know the 2 sniping BS were the only ships in system, or close at hand. He did not know they didn't have a scrambling frigate nearby, or on a safespot, etc.
What he did know was that he was in danger of losing an expensive ship, with an expensive cargo. He then logged. The oh-so-very-fine distinction that the freighter was not quite yet actually engaged when he logged is pointless and meaningless and everyone reading these forums knows it. The freighter pilots alt saw the enemy ships. The freighter pilot knew of the danger. He was actually shot at, and unless I'm very sorely mistaken, I believe that constitutes "combat".
He logged.
The people expressing concern over this event are the same Eve citizens and forum readers who have for quite a long time listened to FIX slander many groups for questionable actions, and yet now a FIX pilot performs the most questionable act of them all, logging off during combat (or if you prefer, logging off JUST BEFORE combat, although you're fully aware of it).
What do we see in response? FIX posts trying to rationilize and excuse why, in this case, its okay the pilot logged. Panic, or expensive cargo, or "hes not a PVP pilot", or whatever else are not acceptable and we all know it.
It is hypocrisy of a wonderfully grand scale. It is arrogance and underhandedness. FIX has now demonstrated that they fully deserve any "political slander" anyone, anywhere cares to throw their way, although its hardly political slander when its quite evidently the truth.
Omg is there no stopping this hairless, spineless, stain/coalition/5/random muppet group -alt from posting..these are indeed dark times we live in..
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Posted - 2005.08.06 01:45:00 -
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Edited by: BladeUK on 06/08/2005 01:47:53
The pilot did NOT know the 2 sniping BS were the only ships in system, or close at hand. He did not know they didn't have a scrambling frigate nearby, or on a safespot, etc.
Well he should have done with the amount of time his alliance friends were in local before the freighter actualy jumped in to system.As for flaming WE at GUC do not flame or smack in any way shape or form.If he logged he logged,we knew we never had a chance to kill the freighter it just made a change of target.As I was there I would like to say that I **** meself aswell as the freighter pilot as ive never seen anything that big on my screen before.So to all involved I would like to say good shooting to Lightstorm and myself(Bladeuk).And thank you to HART TAR(the frieghter pilot)who gave US the opportunity to shoot at such a fine vessel...Now can we call this post closed plz much appreciated.....GUC
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OVERCOPES 1
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Posted - 2005.08.06 03:22:00 -
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ffs let this thread die,no one cares.
worry about your own eve life.
Im a real wiltshire headbanger,generally getting podded whilst comatozed on cider.
i mayv or may nit abe a bit drunk-parMizan.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.08.06 16:19:00 -
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When 5+ FIX pilots disappear at once to avoid combat, like the enemies of FIX do every day, THEN you can call hypocrisy.
People could have easily said "he had connection issues" which is what the kiddies say when they use logoff/logon tactics... instead FIX owned up to it, said the dude had a minor panic attack and as a result two sniping battleships with no chance in hell to actually take down the freighter... didn't take down the freighter...
When you try to make an alliance look bad you pick and choose your battles. When you choose small, admitted mistakes and try to make them big it makes you look like you have very, very little ability to make that alliance actually look bad.
Either way, FIX wins. Not sure what the hubbub is about.
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Jon Liberty
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Posted - 2005.08.07 13:04:00 -
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Is CCP gooing to do anything about this as they are openly admitting using a exploit?
And while I remember, hypocrasy(sp?) 4tw
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NumBerGuy
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Posted - 2005.08.07 13:22:00 -
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I like chesse
FFS drop it
CCP wont do anything about it cause they said its "part of the game"
The pilot in question has apologised, FIX said they spanked him what else do you guys want.
PS hi 7 you waste of skin
Perscrition drugs 4tw
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V2GBR
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Posted - 2005.08.07 13:31:00 -
[104]
Originally by: NumBerGuy
I like chesse
FFS drop it
CCP wont do anything about it cause they said its "part of the game"
The pilot in question has apologised, FIX said they spanked him what else do you guys want.
PS hi 7 you waste of skin
Perscrition drugs 4tw
GUC want nothing from this.
My guys had fun shooting and thats all that matters. Leave this thread be.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.08.07 15:58:00 -
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It is likely that the frieghter in question was hauling miscellaneous items for the entertainment of the lonely troops and miners of FIX. It would have likely included
100k units of Tobacco
20k Long Limb Roes
10k Holoreels
20k Spiced Wine & Spirits
10k Planetary Vehicles
2k Liz Hurley Clones
5k Livestock (don't ask)
and finally 10k Janitors (to clean up the mess)
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Liger
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Posted - 2005.08.08 09:48:00 -
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I think Fix owes the hunters a pay-off of lets say 500K exotic dansers. That should keep them happy for making FIX look bad
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Rauk Bascha
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Posted - 2005.08.08 10:24:00 -
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Edited by: Rauk Bascha on 08/08/2005 10:27:56
lol
I dont see what vthe big fuzz is about...so what if you log off ...its a game, the game has its rules and game mechanics set by ccp...they have set logoff timers, use those timers and stop whining about it.
If the timers has a bug, report it to ccp.
I honestly dont know if ccp views logging off during combat to be an exploit...but if they do...thats the ONLY reason it could be wrong to do...otherwise its just playing bye the rules
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Isonkon Serikain
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Posted - 2005.08.08 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka
tbh, if FIX wants to retain any self-respect, they should kick the logger..
We don't really care what you think of us.
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2005.08.08 20:05:00 -
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1. FIX took care of the pilot.
2. The corporation shooting at the freighter doesn't care.
3. Everyone else can leave the peanut gallery now.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.08.08 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: NumBerGuy
I like chesse
FFS drop it
CCP wont do anything about it cause they said its "part of the game"
The pilot in question has apologised, FIX said they spanked him what else do you guys want.
PS hi 7 you waste of skin
Perscrition drugs 4tw
Numbah! I'm gonna come find you and teach you once and for all that Badgers pwn Squirrels.
Er... on topic. The other night I logged onto EVE, two hours later I logged off. Did I sploit?
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Lorth
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Posted - 2005.08.09 04:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mindlles
I even got a email from a ceo once that i mailed and told that his member logged to go to hell..
This actually happened to me the reply I got was.
Aww go cry to your mommy, maybe she will want to hear you whine.
One of the very few things that has actually made the key behind the keyboard mad, in anygame.
As for the FIX pilot logging. Bah big deal, they wouldn't have gotten the kill anyways. People panic, and do stupid things. Doesn't mean I support it, though. Only that it happened, and FIX arn't known for employing lame tactics, so I'm sure its a rare incident when something like this happens.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.08.09 06:18:00 -
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What is the big deal everyone is making over this? He logged before he was engaged in any combat, pretty much the same as warping to safe and logging off.
To top it off, none of the involved parties care. The flamers in this thread really need to get out more.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Abdalion
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Posted - 2005.08.09 07:36:00 -
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Thread has run its course.
Click.
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