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Araviel
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Posted - 2005.08.05 17:35:00 -
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i leave for a couple days and all hell breaks loose,
oh well, "picks up baseball bat tech 2 from under the bed",
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2005.08.05 17:40:00 -
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araviels bat is even more powerful than the nerf bat.
My vids and random stuff
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Cown
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Posted - 2005.08.05 19:15:00 -
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hehe the bat of doom..
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.08.05 19:37:00 -
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Araviel has a very hot avatar!!!
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Laythun
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Posted - 2005.08.05 19:55:00 -
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good luck epic. i know u can sort it out and get back to pwning 
"I believe in the theoretical benevolence, and practical piquants of cheese wotsits" |
Krapz
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Posted - 2005.08.05 20:22:00 -
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Yeah, I really wish you guys can keep that boat sailing. I always respect ppl who adhere to basic principles, and the principle behind Epic is as pure as it can be.
It truely would be sad if the corp doesn't make it out of this, but I'm sure Araviel can keep it going. Loyal and dedicated PvP'ers are not easy to find. Loyal and dedicated leaders are much more rare than that.
I wish you guys the best of luck! See ya out there.
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Araviel
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Posted - 2005.08.05 20:34:00 -
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 Originally by: Asheara March
People were talking about where our corp freighter had gone, our POS, and our corp wallet. Many claimed Caybn had taken it with him.
items are missing, however not any of our most valuable assets are gone and the corp wallet is untouched.
if anyone belives caybn would have taken anything from the corp i can say that is 100% incorrect.
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Jonkai
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Posted - 2005.08.05 20:39:00 -
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Glad to hear you've still got your nice items and wallet untouched.
Hope that you pull out from this and become stronger.
Makes you wonder though, is this a foiled Merc contract! 
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Mr Crown
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Posted - 2005.08.05 20:48:00 -
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mmkay, that was not quite the way it happened was it Ash?
1. Some ppl who have flown together decided to leave due to internal differences. They were leaving on good terms--no theft, no backstabbing just differences of opinion.
2. One of the leaving members while afk gets podded by Gryganne. He has flown many times in the same gang with Gryganne. In fact he was in his new uninsured BS he just bought to replace the one he lost on an Epic op.
3. Ash immediately starts spamming the corp chat with announcements of 'End of Epic'--thats because 8 ppl out of 60 left. Must have seemed like the right thing to do at a difficult time for the corp.
4. Ash goes on the vent and really feels there is nothing wrong to in killing ppl who fought and lost ships with you just because they decided to leave.
5. At the same time quite a bit of Ashe's and Hanze's shady history comes out--much of it because Ash had a bout of verbal diarrhea on the vent. Small things such as backstabbing your own corp and such.
6. Acting director decided that these individuals' values are not compatible with Epic.
End of story.
P.S. On the vent you asked if we could part on good terms so that your 'bad reputation' stops following you around. I guess you just could not help yourself yet again.
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rugg burne
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Posted - 2005.08.05 20:51:00 -
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Mr. Crown is me btw
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Asheara March
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Posted - 2005.08.05 21:02:00 -
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Everything I said in my post is what i saw. Maybe in your little private chats things went differently, but me being a low priority member I heard nothing of what was truly going on.
I never spammed corp chats with "end of epic", if anything I have been the one person who has tried to hold epic together.
I never said I agreed with Gryganne on killing Dantane, I just wanted to present his side of the story since no one else would. Since he was the only officer left in Epic when we neede leadership, I wanted to keep him around.
And my bad history coming out on vent? Maybe if you would have been there from the start you would have known that Caybn asked me if what he had heard about me was true so i gave him the whole story. You just came in near the end.
And as far as my bad history goes, you dont know the half of it. But since this keeps coming to haunt me, I am going to go write my own autobiography woot woot! From now on when joining a corp, people will know all about my history from the start.
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Veni Vidi Varpi
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Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2005.08.05 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Asheara March
Maybe in your little private chats things went differently, but me being a low priority member I heard nothing of what was truly going on.
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Asheara March
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Posted - 2005.08.05 21:56:00 -
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There are no villains in this whole fight. Everything that has gone wrong is due to a lack of communication along with the absence of a command structure in Epic due to Araviel being busy in RL and so many officers leaving. I have been made to be some sort of villain in this whole thing, when all I have done from the start is try to hold the corp together. Gryganne was one of our last officers left, and he was kicked without anyone even talking to him about why he killed the other guy. I step up to try and bring his point of view to the table, and in return I get dubbed a corp killer and kicked from the corp?
This is why groups of people need leaders 
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Veni Vidi Varpi
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Rei Storm
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Posted - 2005.08.05 22:15:00 -
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I think something that has been totally missed is the support the many corps have shown towards epic. I can only speak for myself, as I'm no one special, but I thank those who have shown support, even the ones on the other side of the guns.
<3 to you guys and girls.
Epic will stay strong, we arent going anywhere
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I hate to advocate sex, drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone... But they've always works for me... |
Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2005.08.05 22:16:00 -
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i am not one to engage in forum wars, as you can all see by my lack of posts, but i will simply state what i consider to be the key facts that make your opinion invalid ash.
1. gryganne attacked someone who was still in his corp.
2. he says he is justified because they were leaving epic, and epic has an nbsi policy. regardless, you never shoot someone who has lost ships taking damage for you, unless you have a damn good reason. and no "i wasnt invited to bydi" is not a damn good reason.
3. bydi is +10 to epic, there goes even the slightest possability of it being a reasonable action, even if he wasnt in the corp..... he would still be blue.
4. end of discussion, if you were kicked from epic and banned from their forums, dont come on public forums trying continue the arguement.
5. i did not try to control Kalast after making him acting director in my abscence. period. any descisions he made were his opinion of what was best for epic. and if youll look at his history, you might notice he was one of the first members of epic, after araviel and myself.
6. omg stfu n00b
7. wub you arav, always will, and that goes for everyone else in epic that kicked ass by my side
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Cown
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Posted - 2005.08.05 22:26:00 -
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Word.
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Bone
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Posted - 2005.08.05 22:31:00 -
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Caybn - I Agree Completely. Simple as that.
Always was a pleasure to deal with you in the corp.
You got me into all this and I wholeheartedly thank you.
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Insomniac
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Posted - 2005.08.05 22:42:00 -
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Best of luck Epic.
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Magic Trev
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Posted - 2005.08.05 23:13:00 -
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 i wish you all the best of luck pulling out of this situation i started (tried) my own corp around the same time as epic began and spoke reasonably frequently with ara, Epic. is still going and strong and is well known... Cl17 is now supporting 2 alts afaik.. therefore i have every confidence in ara's abbility to run a corp and pull it out of ****
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Reiisha
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Posted - 2005.08.05 23:22:00 -
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Edited by: Reiisha on 05/08/2005 23:23:09
Originally by: Seleene
Edited by: Seleene on 05/08/2005 10:25:07
Why do I have this image of Avariel showing up soon with a baseball bat to sort things out? 
You're not the only one.
edit: i was too late :P
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.08.05 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: Stormfront
Araviel has a very hot avatar!!!
I think the madamouselle looks a bit on the fat side tbh. Nothing wrong if you like em large, though, each to his own.
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.08.06 01:39:00 -
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Ooooh the drama 
One mans loss is another mans new toooooys I mean err new corp mates
*touches Cown* 
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Insomniac
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Posted - 2005.08.06 02:14:00 -
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*sigh* i might of known you'd show up mate...
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Asheara March
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Posted - 2005.08.06 05:50:00 -
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Well I tried my best, but by trying to present all sides of the story I have been dubbed a corp killer. (Like a lawyer being imprisoned for defending a murderer). Oh well. Epic I just want to say, its been great. I learned a lot from you guys and really appreciate everything you taught me. Where I go now, I am not sure.
As I leave though, one thing keeps popping into my head... one small thing I can not stop humming/imagining. Can't explain it, not sure if it has anything to do with epic, but everyone go check it out!
http://weebls-stuff.com/toons/badgers/
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Veni Vidi Varpi
I came, I saw, I warped the hell out |
Sadist
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Posted - 2005.08.06 06:39:00 -
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Why would you put up something like this on public forums? Revealing a matter this private...is, well, unpunctual at best.
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
"One Trit to rule them all, One Trit to find them, One Trit to bring them all, and in the veldspar bind them"
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Layrex
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Posted - 2005.08.06 07:29:00 -
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God it's like ****ing Eastenders.
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Morikai Acler
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Posted - 2005.08.06 08:31:00 -
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Well, I wish epic and the guys who left good luck with all the others. The Whitesands having lost most of it's officers and 2 CEOs in the past knows all too well what these kinds of things can do to a corp. But, if you've got a good CEO and directors, and don't let a morale blow occur from this you'll go on strong.
I doubt Kalast would of made a snap decision like that without proof. If I remember correctly I've flown with him in the past, in the north. Didn't seem like the kind of guy to make decisions like that without just cause back then, and doubt he does so now.
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eX0rc1st
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Posted - 2005.08.06 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Jezala
I'm saddened to hear about Epic's internal strife. 
It has always been an honor and a great pleasure to fly up agianst you guys in Providence. I wish all of you Epic members, current and former, the best of luck in resolving this. Hopefully I'll get a chance to fight agianst you guys another time.
agreed.....gl epic
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Xathax
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Posted - 2005.08.06 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: Xathax on 06/08/2005 18:32:05
Huh. Here's everything from my perspective (as a little-known Epic officer - hell, little known anything).
2005.08.03 23:13:00
Caybn resigns as Co-ceo. (66 members in corp, 80% active)
2005.08.04 05:24:00
Xathax installs World of Warcraft.
2005.08.06 17:58:00
Xathax stops playing World of Warcraft, logs into Eve to see what's up.
46 members in corp. Corp in-box full, forum in flames.
Conclusion:
1) People couldn't cope with me being gone for two days. :p
2) World of Warcraft is the devil.
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FaTA1
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Posted - 2005.08.06 18:52:00 -
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bet this is gona be horrible for our recruitment campaign.. |
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