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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2005.08.06 22:33:00 -
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I thought after the patch there was a 15min time before a ship disapeared when in comabt and scrambled? I ask this because Armageddonpsa came through a gate in his geddon, we dutifully scrambled him and began to shoot him.
http://www.webinventions.co.uk/blade/log1.jpg
He immediatley logged off, and after 47secs or so dissapeared.
http://www.webinventions.co.uk/blade/log2.jpg
So A: its lame logging off (y does everyone do it?) B: what happened to these new timers etc? and it wasnt even 2 minutes
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Mikelio Raijan
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Posted - 2005.08.06 22:44:00 -
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You linked them both to the same image :P *Pikkie 2*
Sounds like he sploited and should be petitioned, this thread will get lockz0red!
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Sku1ly
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Posted - 2005.08.06 22:44:00 -
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http://www.webinventions.co.uk/blade/log2.jpg
Not got anything to say to help, but theres a fixed link for the second one.
Plus, I believe they havn't fixed it so that changing characters doesn't make you dissapear.
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2005.08.06 22:49:00 -
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Fixed
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Screek
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Posted - 2005.08.06 22:50:00 -
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The annoying part about it all is he is -10 and the ceo of the corp :(
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V2GBR
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Posted - 2005.08.06 22:51:00 -
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Edited by: V2GBR on 06/08/2005 22:51:13 That was me :/ ----------
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Panshin Bolo
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Posted - 2005.08.06 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: Sku1ly
Plus, I believe they havn't fixed it so that changing characters doesn't make you dissapear.

Oh great... 
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Mikelio Raijan
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Posted - 2005.08.06 22:53:00 -
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umm does anyone else think that telling people how to do the exploit is a bad idea? m'kay bad monkey!
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2005.08.06 22:58:00 -
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Lame, very lame Might be worth filing an exploit petition. ------------------------------------------
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strang
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Posted - 2005.08.06 23:04:00 -
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We did, the GM replied that even with the images we provided he/she couldnt do anything and we'd have to file it as a bug report.
We didn't lose anything, it's just the point that the guy was a -10 player, CEO, Had a bounty and logged.
Strang
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subvert
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Posted - 2005.08.06 23:05:00 -
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People do it because thjey are presented with a situation where:
A. They have no chance to win, so they sit there and lose 120 million ISK battleship.
B. They log off and save 120 million ISK.
Unless made impossible people will always do it, just because it takes like a week 15 hours a day mining to get enough ISK for a battleship 120m ISK.
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2005.08.06 23:07:00 -
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I have always felt that us -10 peeps give of an aura of sorts (kinda fear and excitement), and it really ruins it when 1 of us logs . Us pirates alreasy have a bad enough rep
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Mikelio Raijan
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Posted - 2005.08.06 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: subvert People do it because thjey are presented with a situation where:
A. They have no chance to win, so they sit there and lose 120 million ISK battleship.
B. They log off and save 120 million ISK.
Unless made impossible people will always do it, just because it takes like a week 15 hours a day mining to get enough ISK for a battleship 120m ISK.
First point, insurance 4tw! 33mill lost from a BS + mods (and tbh your only using expensive ones if you can afford to loose them)
Second point, logging off and using the method described earlier to make your ship vanish IS an exploit, and it is in fact sopposed to be impossible for people to vanish in combat, thats why the new 15min timer appeared...
But seriously, they cant tell when a client disconnects and when the ship actually disappears? dosnt this just leave the door wide open to people using this expliot..
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Kelene
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Posted - 2005.08.06 23:35:00 -
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Cant it just be made that if a ship logs and is scrambled it doesnt dissapear full stop?
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strang
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Posted - 2005.08.06 23:42:00 -
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I think it shoudl be like that.
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2005.08.06 23:45:00 -
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Should tell the devs to check their logs at the time it happened. Should be enough evidence.
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2005.08.07 00:02:00 -
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Strang already spoke with the devs, and they said they cant do anything even with the evidence we provided , i think its a real shame and believe an example should be made at some point so that no1 even thinks about doing it.
Having said that maybe he hadnt pvp'd before and panicked....
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2005.08.07 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleeb Strang already spoke with the devs, and they said they cant do anything even with the evidence we provided , i think its a real shame and believe an example should be made at some point so that no1 even thinks about doing it.
Having said that maybe he hadnt pvp'd before and panicked....
Sure you're not mixing up the GMs with the Devs?? Might be worth mailing kieron about it, seems lots who posted here think it's an exploit. ------------------------------------------
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2005.08.07 00:09:00 -
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Good point Gaz cheers
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Plim
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Posted - 2005.08.07 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kelene Cant it just be made that if a ship logs and is scrambled it doesnt dissapear full stop?
That would make sense, you crazy person you. -----------------
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V2GBR
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Posted - 2005.08.07 00:11:00 -
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Nice sig Plim :) ----------
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Lodhi
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Posted - 2005.08.07 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: V2GBR Nice sig Plim :)
Me and Malken came up with it when we were silly drunk. Phear the swedes 
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PsyBoRG
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Posted - 2005.08.07 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: subvert People do it because thjey are presented with a situation where:
A. They have no chance to win, so they sit there and lose 120 million ISK battleship.
B. They log off and save 120 million ISK.
Unless made impossible people will always do it, just because it takes like a week 15 hours a day mining to get enough ISK for a battleship 120m ISK.
you are quite wrong there i recently tried mining in an apoc made about 200mill in 2 days
well regarding the topic we have actualy killed alot of ppl that logged on us ie. we had 3 destroyers 1 punisher kill an apoc that logged and he stayed though his pod of course insta warped and so far since the change i have seen it like 10 times ship stays pod warps but can be scan probed probably some bug that happened 
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Lodhi
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Posted - 2005.08.07 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: PsyBoRG
Originally by: subvert People do it because thjey are presented with a situation where:
A. They have no chance to win, so they sit there and lose 120 million ISK battleship.
B. They log off and save 120 million ISK.
Unless made impossible people will always do it, just because it takes like a week 15 hours a day mining to get enough ISK for a battleship 120m ISK.
you are quite wrong there i recently tried mining in an apoc made about 200mill in 2 days
well regarding the topic we have actualy killed alot of ppl that logged on us ie. we had 3 destroyers 1 punisher kill an apoc that logged and he stayed though his pod of course insta warped and so far since the change i have seen it like 10 times ship stays pod warps but can be scan probed probably some bug that happened 
Probes 4tw :)
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Karoth Tyu
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Posted - 2005.08.07 02:34:00 -
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The 15 minute timer works, but they still haven't fixed the exploit where people can log off and log in another character to disappear faster.
We had a corp thief pull this on us the other day and disappear after about 35 seconds with 6 ships scrambling him. Didn't save his battleship, but still, what a jerk 
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Blind Fear
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Posted - 2005.08.07 06:06:00 -
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1) The PvP timer only works sometimes.
2) Logging off still saves pods.
3) You can still sploit to disappear your ship in seconds.
4) Unlike prepatch, CCP apparently no longer considers logging to an alt to be an exploit, since it was 'fixed'. Yay.
Ctrl+Q 4tw. Again.
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n1ghtmar3
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Posted - 2005.08.07 09:28:00 -
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I hope that's not a Cap Power Relay in the low slot of that Raven/Scorp.

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V2GBR
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Posted - 2005.08.07 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: n1ghtmar3 I hope that's not a Cap Power Relay in the low slot of that Raven/Scorp.

Yup it is, the only reason is there is nothing else i can fit in there :/ ----------
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.08.07 10:35:00 -
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It wasn't a million km away on scanner?
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.08.07 11:50:00 -
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Your gimping your setup by putting the cap power relay. You would be better putting a nanofiber or something in.
Also why the 4 nos? ----------------------------------------- wts all new "burberry" warp core stab II's |
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