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drunkenmaster	Posted - 2003.07.22 08:18:00 - [31] Edited by: drunkenmaster on 22/07/2003 08:18:29 Jash's idea was perfectly acceptable, shame it wasn't an ore-whiner that took the time to think it up... oh, and isn't animated on the posting page. While I'm here, I'll check the quote system.. Quote: Jash's idea was perfectly acceptable, shame it wasn't an ore-whiner that took the time to think it up... Did that work? edit: yes! sweet. .
Jash Illian	Posted - 2003.07.22 08:30:00 - [32] Quote: Jash, I saw your post to another for using the secure cargo containers, but I think I noticed them in the market and they only held 490 and from your post, you can hold 10 of them in the Indy. Well, 10x490 of course is 4,900; but my Indy holds 5,000. Is the only benefit to this 'maneuver' is so that someone who is concerned about the ore they leave in the fields, have a way to be the only one to retreive it? Seems like a waste of time to me, but I have yet to have a can problem; so maybe that is why I don't think about it. Your post just caught my eye because of the 10x490 and the time wasted just seems too much. However, I did read the other day that someone had put 70k Scordite into their jettisoned cargo and thought that was chancy. :-) The downside of the secure containers is they hold 490m3 apiece (though allegedly in the patch notes they gain a whole 20%). The upsides are: They require a password to open They require a password to scoop to cargo They are apparently indestructible Anyone with the password can open or scoop the container. The last one is a biggie for anyone that has had a lucky missile from a npc pirate pop a night's work. So the benefit to the solo miner is they now have a way to secure their cargo and mine faster using multiple mining lasers. And mine solo in less secure areas. While testing these out for possible corp use, I went to a .3 system with my Rupture armed with 4 mining lasers, 2 launchers with rockets and 3 infiltrator drones. The infiltrator drones easily handled the pirates that spawned while I mined uninterrupted. Corp benefit is a container that is apparently much more hardy than the standard container. A standard container can only handle around 80hp damage before it'll pop. A heavy missile from a depredator+ will kill a container in 1 shot. I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
CT BadIronTree	Posted - 2003.07.22 08:56:00 - [33] I hate people when they say "you leave it fling next to you so is not yours" WTF? men (btw: im not a noob... i play this game since beta 5... stop flaming me :P) i dont have to use secure conteines only for traveling with something like BP or move good stuff. i use them also like folders in hangar so i dont mix up stuff... :) if someone steal from me he is dead in 1-2sec with my thorax... and i run like crazy to get away from police... the thing is that if you park your car next to you house and leave your stuff-box-shoping out to the car next to it to do something and someone steal it from you... THE STUFF ARE YOURS they did not find them buy actident in the street.. and pick it up... If you find a wallet full of money you give it to police you dont trow the wallet and keep the money.... your way that peoples mind think scare me... i went on holiday on a vilage in greece and they never lock the car... they left the key of the car on it... they did not have lock on the doors... and the strangers they give them something to drink freely and they invite me to come and eat with them and if i wanted to sleep on the sofa.... this sound like a dream but is not... if you dont have thiefs is beatifull... THINK right stealing is wrone... (you will go to hell :PPP ) ask before you pick up stuff from a conteinar... what happend to the good all times that 2 people with noob ship get 50/50 the stuff. one was mining and the other was hauling.... no indastrial ships then and one cruiser... if you mine alone you have to go back and forword 100 times if you leave the cargo and go to station to pick the indy. i will propably pick it up my self if i dont know that you where mining there so leave a bookmark in it saying that this is yours... ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
Jash Illian	Posted - 2003.07.22 09:05:00 - [34] Quote: the thing is that if you park your car next to you house and leave your stuff-box-shoping out to the car next to it to do something and someone steal it from you... THE STUFF ARE YOURS they did not find them buy actident in the street.. and pick it up... If you find a wallet full of money you give it to police you dont trow the wallet and keep the money.... Of course it's your stuff. Ask the thief that steals it out of your car if he cares. And yes I do keep wallets I find full of money (bad experience after not even being told "thank you" after returning the first one I ever found as a wee lad). I'm no can thief as I find it to be rather dull. But if I were a can thief in this game my response to you would be: If you refuse to take the basic precautions provided by CCP and described in detail many many times by others, I'm the slap to the forehead for being so silly. The game allows theft. Moral outrage isn't worth the dust they'll leave in your empty cans. And it's not CCP's responsibility to create solutions for a person's greed. Mine securely or take the risk. I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
Arlana	Posted - 2003.07.22 09:48:00 - [35] Some occurances make you wonder how dumb people are: I was mining away Kernite the other day and stumbled upon a container with 2k Kernite and 20k Omber. It was unguarded and I kept an eye on it while mining. No one came to fetch the contents and as it would have been a terrible waste to let the container just disappear I put the contents into a new container after 40 minutes. Half an hour later I started to empty it but stopped after about 2k Omber and 1k Kernite as I was feeling bad about it :/
yarr	Posted - 2003.07.22 10:39:00 - [36] what's there to feel bad about, Arlana? A small measure af guilt is understandable if you steal their ore from right in front of them, but if they have left the system, then nobody can argue that is isn't fair game. Like drones. You leave them in the field, and someone else is free to take them. I would have cleaned that can out. _____ sig
M4ya	Posted - 2003.12.23 03:39:00 - [37] f
Hodokie Seek	Posted - 2003.12.23 03:53:00 - [38] Quote: A Rupture with 4 mining lasers and 3 Infiltrator drones can easily mine in .2 space with a Medium Shield Booster. I did it as an experiment. Despite constantly spawning Ruffians, Nomads and the occasional missile frigate pirate (can't remember which one it was) the drones easily took care of 4-5 pirates at a time before they could reduce my rupture's shields past 1/4th remaining. I am in a Vexor with a Miner II, Guns, and Drones and do ok in .2 space but will loose drones more often now since the new patch has come out. Pirates do pack a bigger punch. Ore theifs are low life scum buckets that unfortunately have a right to exist in Eve so yes, use secure cans. It is nice though when you pull up next to one with nothing but smartbombs and blow up his ship and pod him though. The securty hit you take bites. __________________________________________ Quote: [07:11:41] Hodokie Seek > k, will probably go in my Tristan. [07:12:18] xxxx > tristan? is it a hazardous area? [07:12:27] Hodokie Seek > Yep [07:12:34] xxxx > nuts [07:12:37] Hodokie Seek > Yep [07:12:52] xxxx > wouldn't be so bad, but i'd hate to lose my implants [07:13:06] xxxx > i'll go in my omen /emote Hodokie Seek <---- No implants and no brains.

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