I'm back [...] and considering running another offering [...]

Mostly I guess this is just an "I'm back" thread.

For full effect, avoid offering collateral.

I never offer collateral. If I wanted to offer collateral I'd just sell the stuff, have my own isk and not pay any dividends. The isk lost (the difference between the sell price and re-buy price), assuming I wanted to replace my sold assets in the future, would surely be less than the interest I'd pay over the term of the bond. It just makes no financial sense. I never had a problem filling a small bond without collateral before, and I was always very consistent in paying what I owed.

On the other hand, this subforum looks dead compared to last I was here.

Times can't have changed that much.

Thanks Flake :)

Edit - Were they in on something together, or did they both just happen to scam? Were they big ones?

/me settles in for the gossip.

Huh, interesting. Somehow I doubt it was all a scam from the beginning (Cosmo), but that's probably just me not wanting to believe I was fooled, he seemed like an all around decent guy when we interacted.

I'm sure all sociopaths are nice until they reveal themselves.

I didn't mean to drag anything up about those 2, or let this thread degenerate into an MD thread, that's why I kept it vague. Apologies if the 'tone' was abrasive.

I suppose my next question is, who can I trust to hold the goods to secure whatever portion of my bond ends up needing to be secured?

What sort of 'goods' are you looking to leverage, should it come to it?

Good question. Ideally it'd be something nonvolatile, small, and with a relatively clear value.

[quote=Stardust CEO][quote=Candy Oshea]
Interesting, So something you intend to buy? If you have the isk, then why not follow your own advice (sell it).

As long as no isk is exchanged in between the 2 phases (selling unsecured at good rate(1) & Selling secured at crappy rate (2), you wont be accused of Trickery (buying collateral for (2) with borrowed isk from(1), as you noted 3 days later)

If you wanted to get a loan against an item (tech 2 rigged items w/e) there is a few pawn shops that do loans against those, If its a Blueprint stiplulate it in the terms that you want research added to it, do some homework on the ones that make an offer.

I intend to find something in my assets that will work. Likely a bpo or something fancy that isn't likely to change value too much in the next 6 months. I'm still getting re-familiarized with my assets, they're spread out a bit.

Molic blackbird will hump your leg for every 5 procurers he sells. (so 1 hump every 40 days) hint take a look at the build cost for a procurer, and the price its selling for, (you can't melt them either, "extra materals" dont come out) Procurer is a bit of a dog, try the old Teir 1 BC's

this is an important point - CCP broke the old "reprocessing value == build cost" paradigma for t1 ships.

the mineral cost for frigates, cruisers, mining barges and battlecruisers (but not yet for battleships) was increased as part of "tiericide" but to prevent excessive speculation (build before patch, reprocess after, free minerals!) the additional minerals are not returned upon reprocessing.
the result is that some of these ships (which people built large stockpiles of in anticipation of an eventual rise in prices after the BPO changes) are trading below mineral cost (but above reprocessing value).

The Insurance Exchange Ratio was taken care off by a system that rebalances insurance payouts based on (long-term) average market prices.
Initially CCP made it sound as if such rebalancing would occur once every few months but in practice it is quit rare.

Mineral prices are much higher than you remember them as meta0 loot was removed from mission/rat loot tables and the drone region rats were changed from dropping alloys to having bounties.

you really missed out on a lot of changes and should tread very carefully while you catch up.

That explains it then (about mineral prices). Is the insurance payout worthwhile now? I assume it's got to be quite a bit higher than it was before, to match current prices.