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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:38:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:Charlepetit LaJoie wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:Do you even know what Interval settings do? Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that the interval setting would turn off the cloud effects. However, setting that to "Interval one" will tend to improve fps in general. Interval one is a limiter on the number of FPS that a GPU will render. Example, a lite graphical environment your GPU could render 200fps causing GPU utilization to hit 100% for no good reason. Where in a heavily populated graphical environment that same GPU will only render 25FPS. Setting Interval one keeps the GPU from rendering 200FPS in the lite graphical environment lowering overall GPU utilization. The issue with gas clouds has nothing to do with the interval. The particle count in them is so high as to cause GPU utilization to shoot through the roof while FPS crashes. The GPU is being overtaxed for no good reason. You failed to tell him what that so called "limiter" actually represents ... |

Psyche Atheos
Cypronic Development Army of Dark Shadows
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Posted - 2013.03.05 18:19:00 -
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NO IM A GEEK |

M'pact
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.05 18:24:00 -
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The gas clouds have been a problem since they were introduced. For instance, if you were flying with a cloud in the background then your thruster flame would basically 'melt into' the cloud rendering. If you maneuvered the camera so the thrusters were outside the cloud, the flame would return to normal. I believe that particular problem was finally fixed something like a year later. Clouds reducing FPS was a problem back then too, so don't count on a quick resolution. |

Venom Xorium
Bigger than Jesus
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Posted - 2013.03.05 18:54:00 -
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Guys try turning off VSYNC...
I'm not running the most super insane computer possible in the world and I've still got 300+fps in all situations AT ALL TIMES.
theres nothing wrong with the gasclouds, its the vysnc thats messed up. |

Orlacc
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Posted - 2013.03.05 19:33:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Obvious Cyno Alt wrote:Archa4 Badasaz wrote:Obvious Cyno Alt wrote:So you play on a 90s Texas Instruments Calculator? Please tell me more!  FFS, EVE is probably one of the lightest games out there at the moment and people still find time to actually ***** about their own crappy, 20 year old calculator not being able to run the game properly in some cases. CCP should just post up the MINIMUM requirements and tell you to **** OFF when you complain about the game and don't match up to those requirements. I think YOU should "**** OFF". You do realize this game came out ~2003? Some people started playing this game a long time ago and invested money and time in this game. It is possible not to have enough to buy a 1000$+ computer and there should be an option to play without those fancy graphics. About the clouds - yeah zooming out helps and i think I read similar things to previous poster, about this issue being looked at... Do I realize that this game came out in 2003? Yes! Do I realize that not all people will be able to buy new computers from time to time? Yes! Do I think they should cater to people still using rigs from 2003? **** NO! It comes up to a point where you simply can't add the smallest of things without breaking the gaming experience for someone using a computer that's 5/6 years old. Honestly, they do one hell of a job at that, as I can still play eve PERFECTLY with my old laptop and that thing is a dinosaur! If the OP is having trouble playing EVE with everything set in minimum then I guess it's on him to get a ******* life and buy a new computer! :) (so sorry for saying what everyone else is thinking!) Well I'm actually having the opposite problem and seems I'm not alone. I change some of my hardware parts almost every 2 years so the rig keeps good performances and it's cheaper than buy everything at one time. Last change was about OS, Vista wasn't good enough for me so I jumped in to a full W8-64 Pro version for less than $100. Now because this game caters more to 90's xp users I can't play it properly now for several months, can't join fleets or gangs because at any moment client freeze and ends with a stupid loss, even a stupid high sec site with frig rats can finish with a BC loss... I can play other stupid games like BlacklightRet requiring a lot more of hardware than Eve without lag or freeze, graphics on top, sound, Directx11, tessellation etc on top, but I can't play Eve with minimum graphic settings (GTX460-2GDDR5) without gaming issues and this really really sucks ass. 3months now this is not fix, this will not end well.
Just so you know, I play on a Win8 64-bit box and it benchmarks better than Win7....probably a hardware thing. And yes, the clouds, particulary with bright lights, drops my rate in half. |

Venom Xorium
Bigger than Jesus
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Posted - 2013.03.05 20:04:00 -
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Orlacc wrote:
Just so you know, I play on a Win8 64-bit box and it benchmarks better than Win7....probably a hardware thing. And yes, the clouds, particulary with bright lights, drops my rate in half.
Turn OFF vsync....
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Stan'din
Incursion Squad Punkz 'n Monkeys
6
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Posted - 2013.03.06 15:11:00 -
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Venom Xorium wrote:Guys try turning off VSYNC...
I'm not running the most super insane computer possible in the world and I've still got 300+fps in all situations AT ALL TIMES.
theres nothing wrong with the gasclouds, its the vysnc thats messed up.
You know that your eyes can't process anything more than 60fps, Its not Vsync its all about the particles my friend |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
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Posted - 2013.03.06 16:02:00 -
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Archa4 Badasaz wrote:Obvious Cyno Alt wrote:So you play on a 90s Texas Instruments Calculator? Please tell me more!  FFS, EVE is probably one of the lightest games out there at the moment and people still find time to actually ***** about their own crappy, 20 year old calculator not being able to run the game properly in some cases. CCP should just post up the MINIMUM requirements and tell you to **** OFF when you complain about the game and don't match up to those requirements. I think YOU should "**** OFF". You do realize this game came out ~2003? Some people started playing this game a long time ago and invested money and time in this game. It is possible not to have enough to buy a 1000$+ computer and there should be an option to play without those fancy graphics. About the clouds - yeah zooming out helps and i think I read similar things to previous poster, about this issue being looked at...
Unlike other games that came out in 2003 Eve received an engine update. You can still play it on 2003 machines, if You set all grafic options to the lowest possible setting, no problem. There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
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Posted - 2013.03.06 16:12:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:Roime wrote:No, that's not what everyone else is thinking. The clouds cause a massive, unnecessary strain on the gfx card. It's so hard, that the fans on my card start spinning and I find that highly annoying.
Yup same here. And my "TI calculator" is in fact a water cooled quad core 4+GHz beast with TWO screaming 500 series nvidia cards and multiple gigabytes of video RAM. While my system doesn't come anywhere near melting or dropping frames, it does kick the fans up into high gear in those clouds and of course, Captain's quarters! Because displaying a couch and some screens uses up far more resources than say, Battlefield 3.
Afaik the EVE client is still a 32bit application, so as long as that doesn't change, even 200Gigabyte of RAM won't change anything as one client can only use as much as 2.4GB of that stuff. Sad but true. Unless ofc You want to run 150 Clients at once.
One off topic question:
for the last decade or so nearly all games have been multiplattform games, so they run on a PC, an XBOX 360 a PS3 so for the last 5 years or so the recommended hardware requiremens were of those games were... sub standard.
Is there any game out there except ArmA II (ArmA III is still in Alpha) that actually requires one of the monsters You described above?
I really like to know, because honestly, upgrading the PC is neary as much fun as using it afterwards... :/ There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |

Stan'din
Incursion Squad Punkz 'n Monkeys
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Posted - 2013.03.07 12:38:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:Ptraci wrote:Roime wrote:No, that's not what everyone else is thinking. The clouds cause a massive, unnecessary strain on the gfx card. It's so hard, that the fans on my card start spinning and I find that highly annoying.
Yup same here. And my "TI calculator" is in fact a water cooled quad core 4+GHz beast with TWO screaming 500 series nvidia cards and multiple gigabytes of video RAM. While my system doesn't come anywhere near melting or dropping frames, it does kick the fans up into high gear in those clouds and of course, Captain's quarters! Because displaying a couch and some screens uses up far more resources than say, Battlefield 3. Afaik the EVE client is still a 32bit application, so as long as that doesn't change, even 200Gigabyte of RAM won't change anything as one client can only use as much as 2.4GB of that stuff. Sad but true. Unless ofc You want to run 150 Clients at once. One off topic question: for the last decade or so nearly all games have been multiplattform games, so they run on a PC, an XBOX 360 a PS3. So for the last 5 years or so the recommended hardware requiremens of those games were... sub standard. Is there any game out there except ArmA II (ArmA III is still in Alpha) that actually requires one of the monsters You described above? I really like to know, because honestly, upgrading the PC is neary as much fun as using it afterwards... :/
The new crysis is apparenlty very taxing, friends GTX 670 overclocked has to make an effort to run with 16b ram to back it up
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Annihilious
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.07 12:52:00 -
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Graphics are against the EULA and shouldn't be allowed... |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.07 12:56:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:Archa4 Badasaz wrote:Obvious Cyno Alt wrote:So you play on a 90s Texas Instruments Calculator? Please tell me more!  FFS, EVE is probably one of the lightest games out there at the moment and people still find time to actually ***** about their own crappy, 20 year old calculator not being able to run the game properly in some cases. CCP should just post up the MINIMUM requirements and tell you to **** OFF when you complain about the game and don't match up to those requirements. I think YOU should "**** OFF". You do realize this game came out ~2003? Some people started playing this game a long time ago and invested money and time in this game. It is possible not to have enough to buy a 1000$+ computer and there should be an option to play without those fancy graphics. About the clouds - yeah zooming out helps and i think I read similar things to previous poster, about this issue being looked at...  I find that incredibly amusing; both the post and response here.. *sigh* It's not 2003 anymore. You can't expect a game to stagnate in quality while the world moves on without it. My PC is perfectly capable of handling EVE, and if I were to build an equivalent with newer technology it would actually cost me less than this one did. I'd just rough estimate about $800 USD to build a PC more than capable of handling EVE and many other games. Given it costs about $5 for a loaf of bread these days, I think that isn't really that much money. Maybe not easily spent, but I'm sure you can manage it over ~10 years. "A gaming PC costs X A loaf of bread costs Y X >> Y Therefore I'm a moron who doesn't understand logic" Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |
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