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john 172
Wrath of Angels
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Posted - 2013.03.03 10:15:00 -
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In mission I am generally OK with most missions, but missions that include large gas pockets or whatever those massive clouds are just drive my FPS to the ground. So what i want to know is what graphics option on the menu controls those effects i have searched online maybe not very well but i can't find anything about it. If anyone can help it would be very appreciated. |

Obvious Cyno Alt
Hedion University Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.03.03 10:32:00 -
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So you play on a 90s Texas Instruments Calculator? Please tell me more! 
FFS, EVE is probably one of the lightest games out there at the moment and people still find time to actually ***** about their own crappy, 20 year old calculator not being able to run the game properly in some cases.
CCP should just post up the MINIMUM requirements and tell you to **** OFF when you complain about the game and don't match up to those requirements. |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1038
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Posted - 2013.03.03 10:45:00 -
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CCP are aware of this issue, and in another thread (no, I can't be bothered to look for it) have said that it is being looked at.
To the OP, I believe zooming out helps a lot.
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Toto Zinny
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2013.03.03 11:02:00 -
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I am sure that they are aware of this problem, because it's a big problem. Nice graphics mean for noting if you are viewing them at 5fps.
I don't think they are quite sure how to fix ,or remove these terrible cloud things, but I look forward to the day when they finally figure it out. |

Archa4 Badasaz
Viziam Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2013.03.03 11:04:00 -
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Obvious Cyno Alt wrote:So you play on a 90s Texas Instruments Calculator? Please tell me more!  FFS, EVE is probably one of the lightest games out there at the moment and people still find time to actually ***** about their own crappy, 20 year old calculator not being able to run the game properly in some cases. CCP should just post up the MINIMUM requirements and tell you to **** OFF when you complain about the game and don't match up to those requirements.
I think YOU should "**** OFF". You do realize this game came out ~2003? Some people started playing this game a long time ago and invested money and time in this game. It is possible not to have enough to buy a 1000$+ computer and there should be an option to play without those fancy graphics.
About the clouds - yeah zooming out helps and i think I read similar things to previous poster, about this issue being looked at... |

Charlepetit LaJoie
Trust Me Ltd
295
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Posted - 2013.03.03 11:04:00 -
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Settings Display & Graphics Display Present Interval (set it to "Interval one")
That change might be enough to fix your fps problem. If not, you can try the following:
Settings Display & Graphics Graphic Content Settings HDR Enabled (try unchecking that). Post Processing (if unchecking HDR is not enough, try setting Post Processing to "Low" or even "None"). |

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1017
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Posted - 2013.03.03 11:15:00 -
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Charlepetit LaJoie wrote:Settings Display & Graphics Display Present Interval (set it to "Interval one")
That change might be enough to fix your fps problem.
Do you even know what Interval settings do?
Quote: If not, you can try the following:
Settings Display & Graphics Graphic Content Settings HDR Enabled (try unchecking that). Post Processing (if unchecking HDR is not enough, try setting Post Processing to "Low" or even "None").
Have you even experienced this problem?
I'd have to answer NO for you on both counts.
Even with HDR set off and everything else on low the particle count in gas clouds using only one client will cause your GPU utilization to go apesht. Frankly, gas clouds annoy me. They're overly bright washing out your module status, difficult to avoid on screen and purely due to their annoyance factor (not gpu utilization) require me to zoom all the way out so I don't blind myself looking at them and so that I can see my module. Because I'm zoomed all the way out, why would I want them on grid anyway? HTFU!...for the children! |

Obvious Cyno Alt
Hedion University Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.03.03 11:18:00 -
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Archa4 Badasaz wrote:Obvious Cyno Alt wrote:So you play on a 90s Texas Instruments Calculator? Please tell me more!  FFS, EVE is probably one of the lightest games out there at the moment and people still find time to actually ***** about their own crappy, 20 year old calculator not being able to run the game properly in some cases. CCP should just post up the MINIMUM requirements and tell you to **** OFF when you complain about the game and don't match up to those requirements. I think YOU should "**** OFF". You do realize this game came out ~2003? Some people started playing this game a long time ago and invested money and time in this game. It is possible not to have enough to buy a 1000$+ computer and there should be an option to play without those fancy graphics. About the clouds - yeah zooming out helps and i think I read similar things to previous poster, about this issue being looked at...
Do I realize that this game came out in 2003? Yes! Do I realize that not all people will be able to buy new computers from time to time? Yes! Do I think they should cater to people still using rigs from 2003? **** NO!
It comes up to a point where you simply can't add the smallest of things without breaking the gaming experience for someone using a computer that's 5/6 years old. Honestly, they do one hell of a job at that, as I can still play eve PERFECTLY with my old laptop and that thing is a dinosaur!
If the OP is having trouble playing EVE with everything set in minimum then I guess it's on him to get a ******* life and buy a new computer! :) (so sorry for saying what everyone else is thinking!) |

Charlepetit LaJoie
Trust Me Ltd
297
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Posted - 2013.03.03 11:39:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:Do you even know what Interval settings do? Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that the interval setting would turn off the cloud effects. However, setting that to "Interval one" will tend to improve fps in general. |

Roime
Shiva Furnace
2126
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Posted - 2013.03.03 11:40:00 -
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No, that's not what everyone else is thinking. The clouds cause a massive, unnecessary strain on the gfx card. It's so hard, that the fans on my card start spinning and I find that highly annoying.
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |

Ptraci
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
1335
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Posted - 2013.03.03 12:29:00 -
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Roime wrote:No, that's not what everyone else is thinking. The clouds cause a massive, unnecessary strain on the gfx card. It's so hard, that the fans on my card start spinning and I find that highly annoying.
Yup same here. And my "TI calculator" is in fact a water cooled quad core 4+GHz beast with TWO screaming 500 series nvidia cards and multiple gigabytes of video RAM. While my system doesn't come anywhere near melting or dropping frames, it does kick the fans up into high gear in those clouds and of course, Captain's quarters! Because displaying a couch and some screens uses up far more resources than say, Battlefield 3. |

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1018
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Posted - 2013.03.03 12:34:00 -
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Charlepetit LaJoie wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:Do you even know what Interval settings do? Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that the interval setting would turn off the cloud effects. However, setting that to "Interval one" will tend to improve fps in general.
Interval one is a limiter on the number of FPS that a GPU will render. Example, a lite graphical environment your GPU could render 200fps causing GPU utilization to hit 100% for no good reason. Where in a heavily populated graphical environment that same GPU will only render 25FPS. Setting Interval one keeps the GPU from rendering 200FPS in the lite graphical environment lowering overall GPU utilization.
The issue with gas clouds has nothing to do with the interval. The particle count in them is so high as to cause GPU utilization through the roof while FPS crashes. The GPU is being overtaxed for no good reason. HTFU!...for the children! |

Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1901
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Posted - 2013.03.03 12:41:00 -
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Obvious Cyno Alt wrote:Archa4 Badasaz wrote:Obvious Cyno Alt wrote:So you play on a 90s Texas Instruments Calculator? Please tell me more!  FFS, EVE is probably one of the lightest games out there at the moment and people still find time to actually ***** about their own crappy, 20 year old calculator not being able to run the game properly in some cases. CCP should just post up the MINIMUM requirements and tell you to **** OFF when you complain about the game and don't match up to those requirements. I think YOU should "**** OFF". You do realize this game came out ~2003? Some people started playing this game a long time ago and invested money and time in this game. It is possible not to have enough to buy a 1000$+ computer and there should be an option to play without those fancy graphics. About the clouds - yeah zooming out helps and i think I read similar things to previous poster, about this issue being looked at... Do I realize that this game came out in 2003? Yes! Do I realize that not all people will be able to buy new computers from time to time? Yes! Do I think they should cater to people still using rigs from 2003? **** NO! It comes up to a point where you simply can't add the smallest of things without breaking the gaming experience for someone using a computer that's 5/6 years old. Honestly, they do one hell of a job at that, as I can still play eve PERFECTLY with my old laptop and that thing is a dinosaur! If the OP is having trouble playing EVE with everything set in minimum then I guess it's on him to get a ******* life and buy a new computer! :) (so sorry for saying what everyone else is thinking!) The op didn't say he was playing on minimum setting.
I play with the game maxed out. I have no issue with fps with one exception, the massive gas clouds.
And apparently CCP is aware of the performance hit those clouds cause.
I don't use a 5 year old pc, it's oldest component is like 2.
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4runner
Eternal Profiteers Eternal Syndicate
25
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Posted - 2013.03.03 13:57:00 -
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Same here, run game on max settings with two AMD 6970, very FPS stable in every situation, until I see those gas clouds and my frames drop badly.
This has nothing to do with hardware, it's just a bug with the gas cloud rendering and I hope CCP will fix it soon |

Frozen Eddie Johnson
Aliastra Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2013.03.03 21:10:00 -
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I'd like to see where they say they're aware of it. Last I heard, they thought they fixed it by changing the clouds in the first Retribution release, which actually caused it to get 10x worse for a lot of people. I don't have an old computer, and my GPU utilization jumps to 99% indefinitely when these "new" clouds are on screen. 100+ ships all shooting each other with no clouds? GPU utilization never goes above 40%. This happens whether I have settings on max, or minimum.
Upon posting this and having quite a few others agree, CCP conveniently stopped responding to the thread. I followed it for a month or so before I stopped bothering, because it seems to clearly be another "CCP doesn't give a ****" issue (like most issues). If anyone could point me to recent posts stating otherwise(as in this year), I'd appreciate it. |

Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1565
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Posted - 2013.03.03 21:12:00 -
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ccp probably made a deal with graphics card manufactures to keep those clouds as is. a eve-style bounty system (done)-á dust boarding parties You fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |

Zarcan
The Yellow Eye
37
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Posted - 2013.03.03 23:36:00 -
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Obvious Cyno Alt wrote:So you play on a 90s Texas Instruments Calculator? Please tell me more!  FFS, EVE is probably one of the lightest games out there at the moment and people still find time to actually ***** about their own crappy, 20 year old calculator not being able to run the game properly in some cases. CCP should just post up the MINIMUM requirements and tell you to **** OFF when you complain about the game and don't match up to those requirements.
Oh my god dude. All he said his FPS is lagging when there's particle effects. Mine does too.
Don't be such a jerk about your rig. Not everyone has a lot of capital to invest in a gaming rig. I was lucky to be able to upgrade to my ftx 550 ti last year.
OP, I have a similar issue but it doesn't slow down too much. Honestly AA is the first thing I cut back, but I just zoom out usually to avoid it. |

Stan'din
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.03.04 03:01:00 -
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GTX 560 ti i5 8gb ram
thats not a lot of money. |

yer mammy
Derp Inc
64
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Posted - 2013.03.04 03:27:00 -
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Stan'din wrote:GTX 560 ti i5 8gb ram
thats not a lot of money.
it has nothing to do with what rig you're using you dolt. read the thread. |

Stan'din
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.03.04 03:39:00 -
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No you butt monkey that is in response to the people whining about not wanting to spend a lot of money on a new rig
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Mars Theran
Red Rogue Squadron Heart 0f Darkness
1636
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Posted - 2013.03.04 03:46:00 -
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Archa4 Badasaz wrote:Obvious Cyno Alt wrote:So you play on a 90s Texas Instruments Calculator? Please tell me more!  FFS, EVE is probably one of the lightest games out there at the moment and people still find time to actually ***** about their own crappy, 20 year old calculator not being able to run the game properly in some cases. CCP should just post up the MINIMUM requirements and tell you to **** OFF when you complain about the game and don't match up to those requirements. I think YOU should "**** OFF". You do realize this game came out ~2003? Some people started playing this game a long time ago and invested money and time in this game. It is possible not to have enough to buy a 1000$+ computer and there should be an option to play without those fancy graphics. About the clouds - yeah zooming out helps and i think I read similar things to previous poster, about this issue being looked at...

I find that incredibly amusing; both the post and response here.. *sigh* It's not 2003 anymore. You can't expect a game to stagnate in quality while the world moves on without it.
My PC is perfectly capable of handling EVE, and if I were to build an equivalent with newer technology it would actually cost me less than this one did. I'd just rough estimate about $800 USD to build a PC more than capable of handling EVE and many other games.
Given it costs about $5 for a loaf of bread these days, I think that isn't really that much money. Maybe not easily spent, but I'm sure you can manage it over ~10 years.
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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
436
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Posted - 2013.03.04 04:16:00 -
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The issue at hand isn't that EvE is to hard on GPU's in general.
It's the specific case of those particle/cloud things in some sites where the GPU load suddenly rockets.
Which is a bit annoying, and made worse by the fact that they are also so bright/shiny that it becomes very hard to see modules, locked targets and other stuff.
I know that CCP has been tweaking them to make them less annoying, but it seems that I'm not alone in wanting an option to tweak them down another notch.
CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil.
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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
374
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Posted - 2013.03.04 10:39:00 -
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I have a modern PC, nothing fancy or anything, but it runs EVE fine. EXCEPT those clouds. Those clouds are the ONLY thing my PC and also my EYES have issue with. THE ONLY THING. Aside from whether or not other players expect me to spend money to get a top-of-the-line video card, I can't read WHITE TEXT ON A WHITE BACKGROUND. All the more incentive to just zoom out, rendering them a useless waste of resources anyway. |

Complex Potential
Blackstar Privateer Consortium Enigma Project
229
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Posted - 2013.03.04 13:07:00 -
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Yep same here. Although it's not enough to noticeably effect my frame rate, I too hear my fans kick into overdrive when zoomed inside a cloud. It was a bit scary the first time it happened because I own no other game (including Far Cry 3) that causes my graphics card to protest that much. Zoomed out and it calmed down again.
Very odd.
Win7 64Bit Core i7 ATI 6870X2 6GB DDR3 |

Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight
67
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Posted - 2013.03.04 14:44:00 -
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Complex Potential wrote:Yep same here. Although it's not enough to noticeably effect my frame rate, I too hear my fans kick into overdrive when zoomed inside a cloud. It was a bit scary the first time it happened because I own no other game (including Far Cry 3) that causes my graphics card to protest that much. Zoomed out and it calmed down again.
Very odd.
Win7 64Bit Core i7 ATI 6870X2 6GB DDR3
The cloud effects are very badly implemented, eating a lot of processing for little/no visual immersion gain.
http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca |

De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1117
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Posted - 2013.03.04 14:57:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:
Given it costs about $5 for a loaf of bread these days
 Where the **** do you live that a loaf of bread costs you $5? If I pay $2.50 for bread I'm pissed.
Edit to stay on topic: The gas clouds are moderately horrible and as I am not mining gas, I wish to make them begone. Make it so CCP. The Margin Trading Scam: If you fell for it, it's your own damned fault. Malcanis for CSM 8
Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |

Steve Spooner
Divine Spirit DSM Strategic Operations Brigade
4
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Posted - 2013.03.05 08:13:00 -
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I wish they would upgrade to CryEngine 3 so I can see every little particle being blown off ships. |

KingMazz ONE
Gravit Negotii S2N Citizens
20
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Posted - 2013.03.05 10:58:00 -
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Well this helps me when i have problems with eve game play. I Bang Face On Key Board. I Find this will help you more then CCP will. IT MAKE"S MY WINKY GO DING !!!!!!!!!!!! |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
636
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Posted - 2013.03.05 14:50:00 -
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Obvious Cyno Alt wrote:Archa4 Badasaz wrote:Obvious Cyno Alt wrote:So you play on a 90s Texas Instruments Calculator? Please tell me more!  FFS, EVE is probably one of the lightest games out there at the moment and people still find time to actually ***** about their own crappy, 20 year old calculator not being able to run the game properly in some cases. CCP should just post up the MINIMUM requirements and tell you to **** OFF when you complain about the game and don't match up to those requirements. I think YOU should "**** OFF". You do realize this game came out ~2003? Some people started playing this game a long time ago and invested money and time in this game. It is possible not to have enough to buy a 1000$+ computer and there should be an option to play without those fancy graphics. About the clouds - yeah zooming out helps and i think I read similar things to previous poster, about this issue being looked at... Do I realize that this game came out in 2003? Yes! Do I realize that not all people will be able to buy new computers from time to time? Yes! Do I think they should cater to people still using rigs from 2003? **** NO! It comes up to a point where you simply can't add the smallest of things without breaking the gaming experience for someone using a computer that's 5/6 years old. Honestly, they do one hell of a job at that, as I can still play eve PERFECTLY with my old laptop and that thing is a dinosaur! If the OP is having trouble playing EVE with everything set in minimum then I guess it's on him to get a ******* life and buy a new computer! :) (so sorry for saying what everyone else is thinking!)
Well I'm actually having the opposite problem and seems I'm not alone.
I change some of my hardware parts almost every 2 years so the rig keeps good performances and it's cheaper than buy everything at one time. Last change was about OS, Vista wasn't good enough for me so I jumped in to a full W8-64 Pro version for less than $100. Now because this game caters more to 90's xp users I can't play it properly now for several months, can't join fleets or gangs because at any moment client freeze and ends with a stupid loss, even a stupid high sec site with frig rats can finish with a BC loss...
I can play other stupid games like BlacklightRet requiring a lot more of hardware than Eve without lag or freeze, graphics on top, sound, Directx11, tessellation etc on top, but I can't play Eve with minimum graphic settings (GTX460-2GDDR5) without gaming issues and this really really sucks ass.
3months now this is not fix, this will not end well. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Nulli Legio
344
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Posted - 2013.03.05 15:29:00 -
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Eve is fairly processor heavy. While I cannot speak for missions my performance is much better since updating my cpu . AMD .FX8350 I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |
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