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Monsignor
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Posted - 2005.08.11 03:07:00 -
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Lies, despair, trechery, murder. All the stock and trade of the Minmatar terrorist. Like brainwashed sheep the terrorist rabble follows in the footsteps of destruction lashing out against thier betters.
But all is not lost.
The Society for Religious Education and Enlightenment is pleased to announce the grand opening of our newest Educational Modification Camp in Hedion. Here the beasts who would destroy God instead learn to worship Him and serve His Empire.
Our state of the art chapel combined with training camp facilities is designed to ensure the confused Minmatar is focused solely on the business at hand..... ENLIGHTENMENT!
Women are kept in a seperate camp and they are brought together only for selective breeding. Of course as the slaves are the most confused the infant Minmatar are removed at once and brought to the reformatory ward of the camp and turned over to enlightened Minmatar parents already in service to God and Amarr.
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Monsignor
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Posted - 2005.08.11 03:07:00 -
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Edited by: Monsignor on 11/08/2005 03:15:26
Our spacious slave patient accomodations are geared toward no so much comfort as protecting the slave. With the power of God present daily the slave may injure himself in ways that would shame God and Empire. Here we have a spacious patient room.
Note the comfortable padded floor and the restraints designed to protect the Minmatar from injuring himself. All this created with one purpose... the care and comfort of our Minmatar patients.
When Minmatar are brought to us they're in desperate straights. Confused, rebellous, troublemakers, the worst of the worst. It is up to us to turn thier troubled lives around and direct thier energies toward service to God.
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Monsignor
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Posted - 2005.08.11 03:08:00 -
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Edited by: Monsignor on 11/08/2005 03:08:37
While some of our methods may seem cruel all our techniques have been approved by the Theology Council and we have the prestigious SPCS Seal of Approval for humane slave treatment. No process we use causes permanent injury or damage to the patient.
Look here at this example of our modern humane treatment:
Here we have a panel of Priests praying over the confused Minmatar who has been restrained for his own safety. The Mimatar is being forced to listen to the word of God as cold water is applied to his body. This has the effect of arousing his senses and making him more receptive to Gods healing words.
Driving the evil of terrorism out of the slave is hard work. We are not glory seekers merely servants of something greater then our own. The Society is here to bring the unenlightend to God.
Monsignor
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2005.08.11 03:18:00 -
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*winces*
I assume this concentrated level of 'treatment' is reserved for those captured from known terrorist forces?
Hmm...
Not your average Amarrian Loyalist....
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Golan Trevize
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Posted - 2005.08.11 05:57:00 -
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From:TES Maelstrom Zealot class.
Location:Tew high orbit.
Commanding officer:Golan Trevize - Hiredgun
***SHORT TRANSMISSION***
Exellent initiative , a clear improvement compared to Pavlovs dogs methods....Perhaps when i capture my old friend Hamish, i will bring him to you for re-education.
***COLD SMILE***
The Gallente ideals of Freedom, Liberty and Equality will be met by the Amarr realities of Lasers, Armor and Battleships. |
Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.08.11 07:05:00 -
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Don't you feel bad soiling the Word of god by letting these heathens speak it?
[Come to Daddy]
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Tess Durbeyfield
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Posted - 2005.08.11 08:13:00 -
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Nice try, but the Gallente already have the, erm, 'dungeons for specialist tastes' market pretty much covered 
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Russo
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Posted - 2005.08.11 08:24:00 -
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It brings tears to my eyes... This sort of treatment wasnt around when I converted to the Amarr Faith. Those Minmatar are so lucky they will be saved...
Good work...damn good work.
Russo - CEO Amarria Auxilia
XL pod for an XL personality
'Russo, what exactly do you feed your ego to keep it that big?.'
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The Patriarch
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Posted - 2005.08.11 08:31:00 -
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newest Educational Modification Camp in Hedion hmm? Ill sure pay a visit then, see if your god exists...
As`t nie giet soals `t mot, mot `t moar soals `t giet! |
Shaydin
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Posted - 2005.08.11 14:15:00 -
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Edited by: Shaydin on 11/08/2005 14:16:20
You never fail to amaze me slaver, ENLIGHTENMENT is a process of FREE WILL ...... you do not force people into it. It is through the the heart not the brain that one reaches ENLIGHTENMENT. Of course this might seem alien to you, since you get forced into what ever you call it from an early age but one thing is for sure it has nothing to do with reaching enlightenment.
I should feel sorry for you but i guess you aint worth.
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I tend to blend into the background occaisionally, it's much easier to sneak up on slavers and disembowel them that way! |
Archbishop
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Posted - 2005.08.11 14:30:00 -
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 Quote:
"You never fail to amaze me slaver, ENLIGHTENMENT is a process of FREE WILL ...... you do not force people into it. It is through the the heart not the brain that one reaches ENLIGHTENMENT. Of course this might seem alien to you, since you get forced into what ever you call it from an early age but one thing is for sure it has nothing to do with reaching enlightenment. "
Free will? It is a myth. We are all slaves to God for He is the true leader of the universe. Even I as an Amarrian am a slave to His will.
My own father was a slave who was freed and enlightened. Yes it is true Amarrian Ni-Kunni can also be slaves. I feel truly blessed to be one of God's children chosen to spread His holy word to the heathen Minmatar.
My cousin Monsignor has done well for himself since leaving PIE. I've followed his career with great interest and to see his dedication to the holy word is truly inspiring. Heathen Minmatar terrorist would do so well to follow in his example.
I have visited these facilities and have confirmed they meet all SPCS guidelines for the care and treatment of slaves. Slaves are not permanently harmed and any mild inconvienence is irrelevant when compared to the gift they recieve.
Archbishop
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Vordor
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Posted - 2005.08.11 15:00:00 -
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Edited by: Vordor on 11/08/2005 15:01:05
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The first step in winning a war is to have scientists to build and design the war machine!
Freedom for our people!!
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Shaydin
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Posted - 2005.08.11 15:01:00 -
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Edited by: Shaydin on 11/08/2005 15:02:08
Originally by: Archbishop
Free will? It is a myth. We are all slaves to God for He is the true leader of the universe.
Thank you for pointing that out, we are slaves to god not to Amarrians.
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Even I as an Amarrian am a slave to His will.
how would u feel about being inslaved by another human then?
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Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2005.08.12 00:31:00 -
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Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 12/08/2005 00:31:53
Well let me find the line.
Ah yes.
'The great Amarr Empire was founded to cultivate the spirit of man. '
Right out of one of the oldest books of our scriptures.
Slavery is the methodology that we use to cultivate that spirit and to control its progress. So indeed God has no problem at all with it. As for being enslaved to another human... why would that be wrong? If said human was worthy of enslaving you and God granted him that right, then that is the proper place for a man to be.
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2005.08.12 05:07:00 -
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Edited by: Pulgor on 12/08/2005 05:07:57
Originally by: Shaydin
Edited by: Shaydin on 11/08/2005 14:16:20
You never fail to amaze me slaver, ENLIGHTENMENT is a process of FREE WILL ...... you do not force people into it. It is through the the heart not the brain that one reaches ENLIGHTENMENT. Of course this might seem alien to you, since you get forced into what ever you call it from an early age but one thing is for sure it has nothing to do with reaching enlightenment.
I should feel sorry for you but i guess you aint worth.
Sorry Shaydin, but there is only one group of non-amarran people whom have found the word of god of their own free will. Those are the Ammatar. Save your cries of race traitor, they will fall on deaf ears.
However I didn't come to lecture the flies on their inferiority, lets get to the matter at hand....
That Minmatar in the last photo, is that a pillory unit constraining him? Because I do believe those are against SPCS guidelines (Archbishop, please correct me if I am wrong, as believe I have seen information that says these were outlawed.) I cannot tell if that's what it is though, the photo is all blurred or something from interference.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.08.12 07:40:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri
Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 12/08/2005 00:31:53
Well let me find the line.
Ah yes.
'The great Amarr Empire was founded to cultivate the spirit of man. '
Right out of one of the oldest books of our scriptures.
You're calling Minmatar and Ealur, inferiors, men?
You're not fit to be an Amarrian.
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The Patriarch
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Posted - 2005.08.12 10:09:00 -
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Edited by: The Patriarch on 12/08/2005 10:12:16
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You're calling Minmatar and Ealur, inferiors, men?
You're not fit to be an Amarrian.
Well said, your meddling finally has brought some revelation.
Gaven vice admiral of boredom probably lacks the words to express his slaver minded vision upon a solid post from Brother Shay, hence the indecency and inability to answer as vice admirals behove. We Minmatars are quite disappointed about the lack of diplomacy skills some Amarrians have and utter lately. The level of communication they preach upon us mark their extinction.
edit: (OOC my view does not represent those of my alliance)
As`t nie giet soals `t mot, mot `t moar soals `t giet! |
Tharrn
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Posted - 2005.08.12 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation
You're not fit to be an Amarrian.
You, Discorporation, have certainly lost the right to judge that. I remember your signature stating 'Gallente' well and often enough you behave like one. It's the mingling with inferiors that has caused that for sure.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2005.08.12 11:41:00 -
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Nevermind the jibes of Discorporation.
That said, this newest initiative of Monsignor looks very much like something I would have endorsed.
As matters stand, I can merely wish for God's grace to shine upon it.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.08.12 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn
You, Discorporation, have certainly lost the right to judge that.
I am the only one left to judge that. All of you, pathetic little creatures that want to coddle the vermin God has granted you the rights to enslave too. You are the people that want to make cattle embrace the Word of God at the same time praising the Lord that chose you, not them as rightful inheritors of the universe.
What's next, are you going to enlighten fish? Livestock? How about furriers or fedos?
Originally by: Tharrn
I remember your signature stating 'Gallente' well and often enough you behave like one. It's the mingling with inferiors that has caused that for sure.
It seems you missed the purpose of that signature. And yes, I mingle with inferiors. Do I want to bring them to my level? Absolutely not.
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The Patriarch
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Posted - 2005.08.12 12:44:00 -
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You can open as many Educational Modification Camps as you like, you are doomed to fail.
One day you will understand the only way is the Minmatar way. We don`t preach like Amarrians, We don`t enslave people. Our weapon is Brotherhoodand solidarity to unify our people against the evil oppressor who try enslave us.
Discorporation, having one of your mind clashes again? forgot to take your Vitoc?  You don`t need to reply i am nowhere near your level
my view does not represent those of my alliance
As`t nie giet soals `t mot, mot `t moar soals `t giet! |
Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2005.08.13 23:47:00 -
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You Discorporation are a heretic, so of course what you have to say has little of merit. Be gone heretic, the only thing less appealing than a heathen is a traitor to God.
It is our duty to cultivate man's spirit, why else would we not have just slaughtered all of the inferior races?
Another quote from the same passage.
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Our illustrious ancestors freed their souls from the evils of the old world and created a new one."
And from another segment.
"Our Lord visited his flock and saw that all was not good.
Blasphemy and heresy ruled the land.
The Lord punished the sinners and drowned them in their own blood.
But the people of Amarr lived righteously and in fear of God.
Thus they were saved and became God's chosen one."
We left a world full of evil and moved to Amarr creating the Amarr Empire.
Therefor it only makes sense that the Amarran people left behind those of thier race that had fallen into sin and apostasy. By God's will we alone stayed faithful, we alone stayed loyal to him. All the other races failed. All the other races turned from him and as such became damned. This is the source of our superiority, and traitors such as yourself are the path to damnation. Those who follow a path other than the Amarran one, are traitors to everything good, they have taken the first step to creating a new heathen race.
The other races are inferior, but they are men. They are traitors, they are savages, but once they were pure... before the heresy crept in and destroyed them.
Now they will never regain their purity, they are lost and can only strive to regain a fraction of what their ancestors callously threw away. They now serve as an example of why we must not falter, why we must suppress heresy and reclaim the heathens. They stand as an example to our people of why heretics such as yourself are the worst form of evil.
The Minmatar at least have the excuse of no longer remembering God, you... on the other hand are the basest scum.
"Only in God can we thrive and grow.
Only God."
Remember this as your rot in your apostacy, heretic. Your arrogance has brought you down, for you did not even recognise the reason that you were superior. We are the supreme surviving race, we are the only remaining true faithful. That is the only reason we are supreme, forget that and you fall below the level of those you despise.
You, Heretic, are the one who no longer has the right to call yourself Amarran.
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Monsignor
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Posted - 2005.08.14 00:29:00 -
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Edited by: Monsignor on 14/08/2005 00:29:45
We have a new powerful treatment device now added to our arsenal of righteousness. I had the pleasure of using this on a patient today and I must say the results were very satisfying. This primitive Minmatar beast was spitting and spewing hate and terror with every utterance. A few hours in the Holy Wheel however changed his tune and he was begging for scriptures when he was done.
Here is this new powerful tool:
Let me explain how this wonderful treatment device works. Holy Water, Blessed by the Priests of Amarr is boiled below the Holy Wheel. The steam is infused with the holy word as it is heated. The patient is then secured to the wheel and rotated through the steam and water in a clockwise fashion.
As the patient emerges from the steam two Priests of the Empire pray over the lost soul and stand by to note his confession (see the Priest with the tablet). Two cloaked treatment specialists are responsible for turning the wheel and ensuring the Holy Water does not run out.
This Minmatar after only two hours and thirtyfive minutes of treatment screamed out his crimes and begged forgiveness. It was a miracle!
Confessing to blowing up an Amarrian water treatment plant the former terrorist was left on the Holy Wheel as he confessed and urged to totally clense his soul. The steam has the psychological effect of cleansing the patient of sin.
After another twenty minutes of confession the patient was lowered and collapsed before the power of God. He begged for forgiveness and pledged support to God and Empire. A truly miraculous conversion!
The former terrorist was unharmed. The steam and water were not of a temperature designed to injury him rather to give the psychologicial "feel" of burning with no actual damage.
I will introduce more of our treatment devices as time warrants. Rest assured the SPCS has fully inspected our facility and given our methods its seal of approval. Following the assassination of our beloved Emperor Doriam II the SPCS has adopted a hard line against terror. Still they direct that no permanent harm come to a slave. A judgement we stand ready to live by.
Hail Amarr and Praise God!
Monsignor
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Ardor
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Posted - 2005.08.14 02:38:00 -
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I admire the patience and devotion of the Society for Religious Education to save even the worst heathens. I can not afford such good treatment. Sometimes it's better to realize when you have no cure for cancer you must cut out the abscess. From my experience almost the whole Minmatar race is like cancer. I still try to find a cure to help them but when it's getting bad then nothing's wrong with killing the source before it can spread the disease. Idonis Ardishapur did nothing wrong when he eliminated the Starkmanir tribe. He was famous for his great knowledge of the scriptures. Many Amarrians saw him as a new Messiah.
Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri
They are traitors, they are savages, but once they were pure...
This is a difficult and important topic I would like to discuss with you. Maybe a private conversation without the interruption of heathens would be wise.
The Amarr people came into the world and the world came into being.
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Camar
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Posted - 2005.08.14 02:56:00 -
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And people wonder why I fight your God 
His suffering will be legendary, even in hell.
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Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2005.08.14 04:02:00 -
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Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 14/08/2005 04:04:04
This is a good initiative. I will be sending all terrorist crewmembers captured by ships under my command to your care Monsignor.
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The Amarr people came into the world and the world came into being.
Aye I know your question though I cannot speak on it in private till monday, my interpretation says that God created no other people, for why when he had already created perfection would he create inperfection?
This fits in with the horrible traits taken on by degenerates, and with how closely the Udorians have come to resemble (if not entirely) our own people.
I postulate that God created the Amarran people, and the other races are those of the Amarran people who turned away from God. I see no other logical reason for their existance. God existed, then he created the Amarr, then he created the world. But was that world populated? Either the other races are a test, competition placed by God on this world to weed out the faithful Amarrans from the non-faithful, or they are fallen Amarrans.
I work on the second hypothosis, because it seems safer than the first. They are traitors, they live under a stigma forever... but I do not assume that they are mere animals. It produces a mindset that neither grants the heathen's equality nor understimate's their ability to serve God, or for that mattter to hinder Him.
Also people like Discorp or Kahn John are living proof that Amarrans can indeed fall. So what happens to the Amarrans who fall if the other races were not once Amarran?
And last, it is a simple fact that the heathens have proven capable of conversion and service to our Empire. They are not of the same caliber as the True Amarrans like ourselves, but they are indeed loyal and faithful servants of our Holy Empire.
It is possible that the others are not Amarran in origin,the consequences of treating them as fallen Amarrans, however, seem lower than the concequences of treating them as mere animals who have never known any better. It is far better to overestimate your foe and underestimate him.
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Lorna Doone
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Posted - 2005.08.14 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: Monsignor
This Minmatar after only two hours and thirtyfive minutes of treatment screamed out his crimes and begged forgiveness. It was a miracle!
A miracle, eh?
Shall we investigate that? Let me spin you on that wheel for over two and a half hours and see if you end up collapsed and begging before the power of my God (I'll even bring my own holy water). If you do, it implies that the wheel is nothing more than a torture device and nothing miraculous is involved. If you don't, well, it would have been a nice test of the strength of your devotion, don't you think?
However, I don't suppose you'll go for it. Getting you and your ilk to submit themselves to the atrocities you would inflict on others - now that would be a miracle.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.08.14 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri
You Discorporation are a heretic, so of course what you have to say has little of merit. Be gone heretic, the only thing less appealing than a heathen is a traitor to God.
I am an Amarrian. In order to denounce the Scriptures, you must have first read them and understood them. I understand and I know you are unfit to bathe in God's Glory.
Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri
It is our duty to cultivate man's spirit, why else would we not have just slaughtered all of the inferior races?
Does it mention anywhere how to cultivate man's spirit? Or are the passages excusing slavery somehow linked to your ideals of cultivating men?
Are you in such a need to excuse the evils you bring upon the spirits you need to cultivate according to your own religion, that you delude yourself that it's in their benefit?
Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri
Another quote from the same passage.
"Our illustrious ancestors freed their souls from the evils of the old world and created a new one."
And from another segment.
"Our Lord visited his flock and saw that all was not good.
Blasphemy and heresy ruled the land.
The Lord punished the sinners and drowned them in their own blood.
But the people of Amarr lived righteously and in fear of God.
Thus they were saved and became God's chosen one."
We left a world full of evil and moved to Amarr creating the Amarr Empire.
Therefor it only makes sense that the Amarran people left behind those of thier race that had fallen into sin and apostasy. By God's will we alone stayed faithful, we alone stayed loyal to him. All the other races failed. All the other races turned from him and as such became damned. This is the source of our superiority, and traitors such as yourself are the path to damnation. Those who follow a path other than the Amarran one, are traitors to everything good, they have taken the first step to creating a new heathen race.
Yes. You understand the words, but not the implications. We Amarrians are the Chosen of God. WE alone are His People. Do you really think that those He spat out and "Drowned in their own blood" are worthy of His Love? That they could ever be amongst the Chosen people?
Do you think that heathens like me, heathens who spit on the scriptures are welcomed back?
Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri
The other races are inferior, but they are men. They are traitors, they are savages, but once they were pure... before the heresy crept in and destroyed them.
And destroyed God's trust with it. They are not His Chosen. They are insects.
Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri
Now they will never regain their purity,
Then why attempt to do so? Why attempt to justify enslaving them, making them do your bidding in the name of 'enlightenment'?
It's nonsense some made up. It's nonsense Sabaoth Incorporated used to rile up Oracle years ago. Nonsense you bought, and incorporated in your mockery of worship.
Deviant.
Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri
The Minmatar at least have the excuse of no longer remembering God, you... on the other hand are the basest scum.
"Only in God can we thrive and grow.
Only God."
I accept God. I accept what He taught me. I need no excuses from Scriptures to makeme feel better. God has shown me who I am and I revel in it.
Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri
Remember this as your rot in your apostacy, heretic. Your arrogance has brought you down, for you did not even recognise the reason that you were superior. We are the supreme surviving race, we are the only remaining true faithful. That is the only reason we are supreme, forget that and you fall below the level of those you despise.
You, Heretic, are the one who no longer has the right to call yourself Amarran.
I call myself an Amarrian. In that, you are right.
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Ardor
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Posted - 2005.08.14 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri
..., my interpretation says that God created no other people, for why when he had already created perfection would he create inperfection?
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Either the other races are a test, competition placed by God on this world to weed out the faithful Amarrans from the non-faithful, or they are fallen Amarrans.
This is problem. I guess you see why finding the correct answer is of uttermost importance. I will give a few examples which helped me to find my answer:
- Idonis Ardishapur called foreigners 'undeserving savage creatures'. He also would have been a sinner when he eliminated the Starkmanir instead of trying to enlighten them. He wasn't a sinner. Many Amarrians called him a new Messiah.
- Jamyl Sarum called foreigners 'ants and vermin'.
- I know Tetrimon is still a controversial topic but as more time goes by as more likely it is that their scriptures have been veryfied to be the original scriptures. So please consider the words of the assassinated Grandmaster Elata Ardo when you try to find an answer for our problem. Grandmaster Elata Ardo said: "The Amarr people are not superiour solely due to our blood or solely due to our Faith, the Reclaiming was a holy task given to us to redeem ourselves in the eyes of God."
I think other races are a test but not fallen Amarrians. This doesn't mean foreign races, that are willing to serve God like the Udorians or the Ni-Kunni, don't have a chance to become a valuable part of our society but "They are not of the same caliber as the True Amarrans like ourselves..."
Discorporation, I find your accusations annoying. An Amarrian with your knowledge should not work side by side with foreigners, roam through the universe like a Minmatar nomad, call himself a Gallente and accuse those Amarrians who fight against Minmatar terrorrists.
We are living in testing times. Empire and Kingdom have different opinions and so have the CVA and my Bruderschaft, sometimes. At least we try to live and to justify our actions with our (sometimes different) interpretations of the scriptures. Not only the Reclaiming is a task given to us by God, there are many other tasks. Your lifestyle for sure is not the ideal way of a faithful Amarrian.
I know you have lost your hope when Jamyl Sarum did not became Empress but the Empire needs faithful Amarrians more than ever before. You ran away instead of fighting for conservative ideals. One can repent and pray for forgiveness.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.08.14 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ardor
Discorporation, I find your accusations annoying. An Amarrian with your knowledge should not work side by side with foreigners, roam through the universe like a Minmatar nomad, call himself a Gallente and accuse those Amarrians who fight against Minmatar terrorrists.
You, too, didn't bither to understand my signature. We took the most derogatory term we could find and applid it to ourselves. The insults of our enemies makes us stronger. It's an Evolution thing, you wouldn't understand.
To me, the Empire is as foreign as the Federation, or Serpentis space. It is weak, led by bureaucrats and a thankfully deceased weakling.
Originally by: Ardor
We are living in testing times. Empire and Kingdom have different opinions and so have the CVA and my Bruderschaft, sometimes. At least we try to live and to justify our actions with our (sometimes different) interpretations of the scriptures. Not only the Reclaiming is a task given to us by God, there are many other tasks. Your lifestyle for sure is not the ideal way of a faithful Amarrian.
Not for a faithful Amarrian, perhaps. It is, however, my ideal lifestyle.
Originally by: Ardor
I know you have lost your hope when Jamyl Sarum did not became Empress but the Empire needs faithful Amarrians more than ever before. You ran away instead of fighting for conservative ideals. One can repent and pray for forgiveness.
I fought and lost.
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2005.08.15 04:52:00 -
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Oh this is entertaining, the two heretics, one believes he isn't and the one who knows he is are fighting. I wonder who will win? However as much as I am interested in finding out, get a room you two, your banter isn't required on a topic reguarding the Societies newest enlightenment techniques.
Good job Mosignor! I wouldn't have nearly the courage or fortitude to put myself through endless hours of trying to enlighten them. Should I ever capture one I'll let you know.
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Icarus Starkiller
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Posted - 2005.08.15 07:30:00 -
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Originally by: Pulgor
I wouldn't have nearly the courage or fortitude to put myself through endless hours of trying to enlighten them. Should I ever capture one I'll let you know.
You have but to look in the mirror.
Unfortunately with these techniques of 'Enlightenment' the one most important thing that God gave mortals is not just overlooked, but consciously ignored.
The free will to choose their own path.
Without free will there can be no ultimate weighing out of the Soul because it has been forcibly molded into a form that, despite fervent belief or not, is completely hypocritical to the true word of God (whichever 'god' you aspire to).
Thus, the Monsignor violates the basic tenants of Amarran faith, and renders himself a hypocrite, if not an outright Heretic.
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Ardor
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Posted - 2005.08.15 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: Pulgor
Oh this is entertaining, the two heretics, one believes he isn't and the one who knows he is are fighting.
Minmatar, unlike you I've been living my whole life in service to God.
I admit I might not be perfect. My biggest flaw is my patience with heathens and to forgive traitors to easily and give them a second chance. But doesn't the scriptures teach us "One can repent and pray for forgiveness." It seems handing out 10k Nefantar slaves to you was a mistake. I gave you a chance for a new start and you backstab me at the first occasion you find. In the end your actions only strenghtens my position that only Amarr only corporations are trustworthy.
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2005.08.15 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Ardor
Minmatar, unlike you I've been living my whole life in service to God.
I admit I might not be perfect. My biggest flaw is my patience with heathens and to forgive traitors to easily and give them a second chance. But doesn't the scriptures teach us "One can repent and pray for forgiveness." It seems handing out 10k Nefantar slaves to you was a mistake. I gave you a chance for a new start and you backstab me at the first occasion you find. In the end your actions only strenghtens my position that only Amarr only corporations are trustworthy.
I can hardly see the point in this. You offered me no "Chance for a new start." Nor any kind of forgiveness. You gave that to those 10,000 now free citizen's of the Ammatar State but as far as I'm concerned, they were free even when they were in your "care". Your position was unlikly to change any time soon and I'm very sure that I have nothing to do with it one way or the other. Don't mistake me for some grovling simpleton whom needs your blessing to carry out the tasks set before me.
To correct you: Your biggest flaw is that you attach invisible strings and talk about giving people second chances while saying nothing to them about it. Then use this as leverage later on, nice try, but clearly you simply think of me as an idiot if you think I'd fall for that one. The people I respect are the ones that live their lives by this Pulgor holds up a small handbook of scriptures. As well as the ones that lay down their lives for the glorious empire.
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Bastables
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Posted - 2005.08.17 01:13:00 -
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Edited by: Bastables on 17/08/2005 01:17:31
I delight in the true spirit of the reclaiming continuing onwards.
Bring everyone back to faith, back to God. Lead them out of darkness, that is our cause and mission.
Personally I bealive conversion is the best route, but in the end we are all reclaimed.
Be reclaimed, and be loved
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.08.17 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: Bastables
Edited by: Bastables on 17/08/2005 01:17:31
I delight in the true spirit of the reclaiming continuing onwards.
Bring everyone back to faith, back to God. Lead them out of darkness, that is our cause and mission.
Personally I bealive conversion is the best route, but in the end we are all reclaimed.
Heathen 
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.08.17 12:22:00 -
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Reclaiming. Where did that come from? It is just a pod pilot fantasy.
Enslavement is enslavement.
If you wish to enlighten them, give them a pamphlet to read and then let them make their own choice.
Do not try to sugar coat your evils, I would ask anyone if they believe your excuses for such evils perpetuated upon humanity to be true.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.08.17 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
Reclaiming. Where did that come from? It is just a pod pilot fantasy.
Millennia of history prove you wrong.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2005.08.17 13:25:00 -
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My mistake, i meant to say enlightenment.
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"I once heard tale about a CURE"
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.08.17 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino
My mistake, i meant to say enlightenment.
In that case, I concur.
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Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2005.08.18 03:33:00 -
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The term may be a pod pilot idea. The idea, not so.
It merely describes the point a slave is at when he is able to not be a slave anymore. When he is ready to no longer be a slave, but to rather be a member of Amarran society.
Does this mean he is as pure as an Amarran, not really. However, it does mean he is no longer a slave, that he has accepted God.
We cultivate the spirit of man. That is our job as faithful Amarrans.
Perhaps the Matari arent truely men, but then perhaps not.
Are they as good as the faithful Amarrans, of course not. But they can still be useful, they can do their best to work for God's glory to atone for their ancestor's sins.
That we do God's will is all that matters, and he wishes us to cultivate man's spirit.
Therefor that is what we will do, by whatever means necessary.
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Numan Herco
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Posted - 2005.08.18 08:09:00 -
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opens com channel.....
What, why would you put a human through that?!?!?! What gives you the right to hurt and force a free willed man to thinking there is some higher power out there that is just a imaginary friends of his emperor? That is just sic and down right wrong when the federation finds out how bad it is getting in that hell whole something will be done
Closes com channel.......
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Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2005.08.18 19:25:00 -
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Yes the federation will care about the fate of terrorists.
Or wait, no I dont think they will. Sorry.
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Doric Kala
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Posted - 2005.08.18 21:11:00 -
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You will feel true "Re-Education" as you call it heathen when the Old Ones bring you the true light from your etenal darkness.
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Staaziprimus
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Posted - 2005.08.19 06:53:00 -
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/me applauds Monsignor's initiative and his transcendental solutions to our age-old curse
Ardor, thank Yahweh for forward-thinking Khanidians
such as yourself...I, for one, look ahead to closer Empire-Kingdom relations once the latest lies from the heathens at the cult of Concord are disproved
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Carvas
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Posted - 2005.08.19 12:26:00 -
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So, what happened here? Ammar finally run out of sub-dural pain amplifiers and neural-tox burst injectors to torture people?
You guys are slipping if you have to resort to dark age garbage like a wheel.
Or are you just saving the more interesting toys for women and children, thats more your metier isn't it?
Slavers, Evangelists, theirs no real difference, you're all in it for the feeling of power you get torturing a helpless victim. Pathetic.
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The Cosmopolite
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Posted - 2005.08.19 13:04:00 -
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A primitive religion inevitably resorts to primitive methods.
What delights me is the unease with which the realities of slavery and the methods used to enforce it are met by certain Amarrian paramilitaries. The seeds of discord are fluorishing in a corrupted religion and ramshackle empire that long ago lost its way.
The Cosmopolite
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Doric Kala
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Posted - 2005.08.19 13:41:00 -
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Your methods of subjagating the spirit to the will of your alien god will lead you ony to the True Divine Gods of Humankind spilling you blood. Look not to the skies, but to your own mechinations to be turned against you by the Gods you call Slaves.
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