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RavenPaine
raven alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.04 02:02:00 -
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My 2 cents:
First off, I played Freelancer too. I was an admin on 2 different servers and had some global stats there. Awesome game, but it was so small compared to EVE. Small solar systems, small community. NO payed accounts. And I could literally log in and fly the best ship in the game 5 hours later.
With EVE being a payed subscription, I do NOT want new players to be able to do what I do in a short amount of time. I have payed, played, and learned almost everything the hard way. When I see a multi-year veteran player, I have to respect that he has done the same. Hopefully when you have played for some time, you will feel the same.
As for new players haveing fun? Fun is a state of mind. A good group of players can lose every ship and still have fun. A bad group of players can win everything in EVE, and still log off mad.
As for friends. Keep your RL friends seperate from your EVE friends.
As for skills: I have like,, 130 skills at level V. They do not save my ship when I make a mistake. They do not make me have 'more fun'. But they do give me some milestones, goals, intermitent achievements. And I earned every one. I am still learning things all the time, that are not in any skill book. |
RavenPaine
raven alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:38:00 -
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forums ate my post |
RavenPaine
raven alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.17 17:07:00 -
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First off: Why would any veteran player want a noob to be his equal? A PvP pilot wouldn't A miner wouldn't for sure. A trader wouldn't
Second: Most noobs wiil lose EVERY SHIP THEY FLY for the first 50 to 100 fights. Skill books have nothing to do with that. Experience and guidance does. Are you proposing to put them in more expensive ships so they can take bigger losses? THAT would probably be game breaking.
The game has a well thought out progression rate. Level 1's-Make some isk, learn to pilot, skill for ships n weapons Level 2's-Better isk, harder rats, skills are coming along Level 3's-Isk is getting serious, skills are starting to be cohesive, first venture into a BC Level 4's-Your income is as high as you want it. More time = more isk. Skills need improvement but you can pick and choose what you want perfected.
Third: People keep mentioning mining and pvp in the same posts... This has bothered me from the start. It would be bad coaching to ask an aspiring PvP pilot to learn mining skills. Just as it would be bad coaching to have them go 108 days without implants. I can see why people would quit if this is what happened.
And Last: (for now) EVE is a PAY to PLAY game! Comparing it to free games is unrealistic. It's like comparing a gun to an arrow, a 60 year old to a 20 year old, free poker to real no limit hold 'em, a walker to Golds Gym, pee wee football to the NFL, etc. etc. |
RavenPaine
raven alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.21 15:35:00 -
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I looked up 'fun' online.
Google listed thousands of links and I read them for several hours. I found links to: Dating over 50 Rock bands Defensive driving courses Celery Knitting Fishing etc. etc. I could not find 'skill points' listed or connected in any way to the word 'fun'.
If you want more skill points, buy a character from the character bazaar. You have that opportunity from day 1. I guarantee that more skill points does not = more fun.
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RavenPaine
raven alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.22 00:03:00 -
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I am going straight to my local auto dealer and demand a new Shelby Mustang, because, you know, a Focus is just not fair!
I will then drive to my local bank, and demand a new 4000 sqare foot home. (with a pool!) because renting this tiny apartment is just bull****.
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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.14 19:56:00 -
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I knew from the beginning that this was some how going to be a stealth WoW thread. |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.23 15:19:00 -
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2 quick points:
First off, if EVERYONE could get some *new accelerated skillpoint bonus* then they would all be exactly equal would't they. More or less they would have no advantage over any other new player. So in reality, they wouldn't *gain* anything. They would in fact, LOSE more expensive ships and fittings.
Second, I NEVER felt like I was useless. I knew what my strengths and limiltations were, and I did the best with what I had. I knew that training was all I needed and each goal was motivational to me. My point is: ( I have stated it before) Fun is a state of mind. Skill points are not the main ingredient for fun. They are not required at all tbh. If you are the type of person that is NEVER SATISFIED, then all the skill points in EVE will not fix you.
Ninja Edit Here. I cannot believe I am still following this thread |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.13 15:08:00 -
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Chi'Nane T'Kal wrote:Quote: I havenGÇÖt played a single game in over a year. WhatGÇÖs my position being away from EVE so long and realistically another six months before I can get back in to it?
IGÇÖm doing excellent in EVE! I have a little over 27M skill points. 15.5m in guns. All race guns from small to large to 5, all gun support skills to 5. Spaceship command I have 10.5, all race combat ships Frigate, destroyer, cruiser, battle cruiser currently at 5. All race battleships will be at 4 beginning tomorrow and I start them to 5.
So basically you have a char that is pretty much useless until you're done with your primary skill goal, remapped to and skilled all those missing support skills? I suppose you'll cover them in those six months, though, so no big deal. Once you did that, you will actually be better off than a person who played during those 1.5 years, as there's no way he could realistically have postponed all of his fitting skills to the end of the long term queue. Doesn't that strike you as a bit odd?
So: You think 26 million SP in ships and guns = useless? And you think that not playing will make him a better player than an active pilot would have been?
Surely your post is a troll. I recomend it, and this whole thread be locked, for it is surely 28 pages of zero content.
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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.20 16:04:00 -
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Why has no body linked any lyrics to 'The Wall' yet?
"All in all, were all just bricks in, the wall"
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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
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Posted - 2013.07.08 07:01:00 -
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Frank Millar wrote:I was hoping this thread would finally drop off the first page and be forgotten.
Alas, it is not to be.
Page 36 incoming.
I was thinking of making a bunch of trolls, comments, necro posts, etc. Just to bump this back a couple pages. |
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