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Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
343
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Posted - 2013.03.05 07:20:00 -
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If we're all blue howcome I'm seeing all these ******* [B0RT] afk cloaks in my wonderful ratting systems? Why is half of my alliance deployed to NPC delve solely to torture HBC residents? Why is the entire south intent on knocking over SOLAR? These ******* blues don't know how to be blue to eachother. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4118
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Posted - 2013.03.05 07:36:00 -
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Proletariat Tingtango wrote:If we're all blue howcome I'm seeing all these ******* [B0RT] afk cloaks in my wonderful ratting systems? Why is half of my alliance deployed to NPC delve solely to torture HBC residents? Why is the entire south intent on knocking over SOLAR? These ******* blues don't know how to be blue to eachother. I think what's most frustrating to them is how we behave in ways they don't expect or understand. Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |

natzu Onzo
Old American Syndicate Silent Infinity
4
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Posted - 2013.03.05 10:33:00 -
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we mine
http://eve-files.com/chribba/mining_waltz.jpg |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6989
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Posted - 2013.03.05 10:48:00 -
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six of the ships in that screenshot can't mine anymore ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6989
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Posted - 2013.03.05 10:53:00 -
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also since we're all apparently blue to each other, why are the most of the alliances in the eve-kill top20 in the HBC and the CFC, with the vast majority of kills being on members of the other coalition ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Tialano Utrigas
Critical Mass Inc. Nexus Fleet
10
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Posted - 2013.03.05 11:17:00 -
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Proletariat Tingtango wrote:If we're all blue howcome I'm seeing all these ******* [B0RT] afk cloaks in my wonderful ratting systems? Why is half of my alliance deployed to NPC delve solely to torture HBC residents? Why is the entire south intent on knocking over SOLAR? These ******* blues don't know how to be blue to eachother.
Because it's fun.
Its like war training for you guys...you know, for when the Providence residents decide they want to extend the Amarr Empire all the way down to Catch. HBC dont want to be out of practice.
The blue donut is best described like this.
The leadership tolerate each other. No one can be arsed to grind sov any more (note: NCDot put something in the water. Their members cant get enough of it). The grunts hate each other, so fights are still plentiful. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6989
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Posted - 2013.03.05 11:23:00 -
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Tialano Utrigas wrote:Because it's fun.
Its like war training for you guys...you know, for when the Providence residents decide they want to extend the Amarr Empire all the way down to Catch. HBC dont want to be out of practice.
The blue donut is best described like this.
The leadership tolerate each other. No one can be arsed to grind sov any more (note: NCDot put something in the water. Their members cant get enough of it). The grunts hate each other, so fights are still plentiful.
Are you trolling or do you honestly believe that the NRDS bloc is a threat to anyone in the game? I mean I'm sure they're a huge threat to N3, but even IRC can brush them aside. ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Tialano Utrigas
Critical Mass Inc. Nexus Fleet
10
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Posted - 2013.03.05 11:40:00 -
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Andski wrote:Tialano Utrigas wrote:Because it's fun.
Its like war training for you guys...you know, for when the Providence residents decide they want to extend the Amarr Empire all the way down to Catch. HBC dont want to be out of practice.
The blue donut is best described like this.
The leadership tolerate each other. No one can be arsed to grind sov any more (note: NCDot put something in the water. Their members cant get enough of it). The grunts hate each other, so fights are still plentiful. Are you trolling or do you honestly believe that the NRDS bloc is a threat to anyone in the game? I mean I'm sure they're a huge threat to N3, but even IRC can brush them aside.
Some see it as a joke, but i guess you could call it a troll  |

Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
95
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Posted - 2013.03.05 11:41:00 -
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Blue me! Blue me! I want to be spacerich! Hyperfleet Industries is selectivly recruiting. Enquire today. Killboard
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Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
200
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Posted - 2013.03.05 11:54:00 -
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Just because we call 0.0 fairly safe, it doesn't mean everyone is blue, OP. Borderlands tend to be bloody every day, with thousands of ships destroyed in small and large battles. However, as you get deeper into sov territory, this threat diminishes, until you hit systems where nobody will nag you for days. That's where people rat in belts, run anomalies, mine and more, protected by sector-wide network of perfect intel provided in real time.
Tldr: null sec isn't safe because everyone is blue to everyone. Null sec is safe because there are players acting as a defensive buffer for the ratting areas. |

Dheeradj Nurgle
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
275
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:07:00 -
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Tialano Utrigas wrote:Proletariat Tingtango wrote:If we're all blue howcome I'm seeing all these ******* [B0RT] afk cloaks in my wonderful ratting systems? Why is half of my alliance deployed to NPC delve solely to torture HBC residents? Why is the entire south intent on knocking over SOLAR? These ******* blues don't know how to be blue to eachother. Because it's fun. Its like war training for you guys...you know, for when the Providence residents decide they want to extend the Amarr Empire all the way down to Catch. HBC dont want to be out of practice. The blue donut is best described like this. The leadership tolerate each other. No one can be arsed to grind sov any more (note: NCDot put something in the water. Their members cant get enough of it). The grunts hate each other, so fights are still plentiful.
Actually, we were planning on batphoning Ushra'Khan when CVA wanted to push us is.
(Do the Ushra'Khan boys still exist? Oh well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UESGri5fal8) |

Cebraio
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
258
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:41:00 -
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Thermalize Schereau wrote:... also- about how many players are in this mega-coalition? compared to the amount of players who aren't a part of it. better yet where can I find this info for myself, so I can look smarter about the goings on in eve.
Finding this information out can be a bit hard, if you have no clue about the entities yet. Because EVE is like it is, we can only formalize Alliances. So you need to know which alliance is blue to which other alliances and thus forming a Coalition.
You find infos about alliance numbers here: http://evewho.com/
Or here: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliances
And you can check alliance standings here: http://www.eveskunk.com/standings.php
Being blue to many other people doesn't mean there are no fights. Quite the contrary. We fight on a daily basis. Members that are staying in presumably safe areas (0.0 carebears) are being hunted down by small roaming gangs or hot drops. Also, not many people in 0.0 welcome new members that are only joining to get rich in a safe environment. You're usually required to join fleets and fight for your place. But you should try it. It's definitely more fun than Hi-Sec. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4124
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Posted - 2013.03.05 14:06:00 -
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I used http://raynor.cl/eve/coalition.php for this. Not entirely sure how accurate it is. Also apparently we're supposed to stop using the dscan tool since the site is run by some dude in TEST. Not sure what advantage he'd gain from knowing our enemy's fleet comps, however. Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |

Cebraio
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
259
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Posted - 2013.03.05 14:08:00 -
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Ah right, I had forgotten where I saw these nice pi-charts. They should be donut shaped, though. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4124
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Posted - 2013.03.05 14:11:00 -
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This thread is now a 4S circlejerk. Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |

Cebraio
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
259
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Posted - 2013.03.05 14:14:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:This thread is now a 4S circlejerk. True. This is Dingo btw: http://evewho.com/pilot/DingoGS |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4124
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Posted - 2013.03.05 14:15:00 -
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Yep, I looked him up after I saw the ping. Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |

Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
457
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:06:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Vincent Gaines wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Just FYI, the CFC and HBC are at negative standings.
There are large coalitions, but no mega-coalition. pitched battles and wargames n stuff. "Yeah, were' totally not reset, I'll just go rat in my safe all blue nullsec heaven..." "oh. well there went my ship. goddamnit topgoon! I used to fly with you! raarghrghrgh!" We aren't doing sovwar because sovwar sucks and we don't hate each other. But the shooting is very constant, and the hostilities very real.
Yes, that's the reason.....
Are you really this naive? Or is the PR boat sinking?
The single biggest danger to EVE is the proliferation of ALTS! Kill an alt today!
Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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Thermalize Schereau
Aliastra Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:07:00 -
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Cebraio wrote:Thermalize Schereau wrote:... also- about how many players are in this mega-coalition? compared to the amount of players who aren't a part of it. better yet where can I find this info for myself, so I can look smarter about the goings on in eve. Finding this information out can be a bit hard, if you have no clue about the entities yet. Because EVE is like it is, we can only formalize Alliances. So you need to know which alliance is blue to which other alliances and thus forming a Coalition. You find infos about alliance numbers here: http://evewho.com/Or here: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliancesAnd you can check alliance standings here: http://www.eveskunk.com/standings.phpBeing blue to many other people doesn't mean there are no fights. Quite the contrary. We fight on a daily basis. Members that are staying in presumably safe areas (0.0 carebears) are being hunted down by small roaming gangs or hot drops. Also, not many people in 0.0 welcome new members that are only joining to get rich in a safe environment. You're usually required to join fleets and fight for your place. But you should try it. It's definitely more fun than Hi-Sec.
thanks for that info! |

Milan Nantucket
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:29:00 -
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Thermalize Schereau wrote:So I heard alot of null sec alliances have blued each other, I was wondering what a player does once they join one of these corps, to make ISK? I imagine its easier if most of the people areound are blue, but aside from running plexes, what can these players do?
also- about how many players are in this mega-coalition? compared to the amount of players who aren't a part of it. better yet where can I find this info for myself, so I can look smarter about the goings on in eve.
AFK Mining in High Sec |

Rico Minali
The Straw Men Dark Therapy
1255
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:30:00 -
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Thermalize Schereau wrote:So I heard alot of null sec alliances have blued each other, I was wondering what a player does once they join one of these corps, to make ISK? I imagine its easier if most of the people areound are blue, but aside from running plexes, what can these players do?
also- about how many players are in this mega-coalition? compared to the amount of players who aren't a part of it. better yet where can I find this info for myself, so I can look smarter about the goings on in eve.
Mittens and Monty throw isk into the air and everyone holds out their hat to catch as much as they can. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3483
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:30:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:"Yeah, were' totally not reset, I'll just go rat in my safe all blue nullsec heaven..."
"oh. well there went my ship. goddamnit topgoon! I used to fly with you! raarghrghrgh!"
We aren't doing sovwar because sovwar sucks and we don't hate each other. But the shooting is very constant, and the hostilities very real. I hear European Goonion and Space Violence are leaving because they ate all the easy ratter and miner kills.
Keep playing dead, eventually we'll give up. Make afk camping your ratting/mining systems as boring as shooting structures and less rewarded. I am a nullsec zealot. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3483
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:32:00 -
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Rico Minali wrote:Thermalize Schereau wrote:So I heard alot of null sec alliances have blued each other, I was wondering what a player does once they join one of these corps, to make ISK? I imagine its easier if most of the people areound are blue, but aside from running plexes, what can these players do?
also- about how many players are in this mega-coalition? compared to the amount of players who aren't a part of it. better yet where can I find this info for myself, so I can look smarter about the goings on in eve. Mittens and Monty throw isk into the air and everyone holds out their hat to catch as much as they can. Monty is running out of isk. It isn't good, he might have to go to his spacesugardaddy to get more. I am a nullsec zealot. |

Rico Minali
The Straw Men Dark Therapy
1255
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Posted - 2013.03.05 17:38:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Rico Minali wrote:Thermalize Schereau wrote:So I heard alot of null sec alliances have blued each other, I was wondering what a player does once they join one of these corps, to make ISK? I imagine its easier if most of the people areound are blue, but aside from running plexes, what can these players do?
also- about how many players are in this mega-coalition? compared to the amount of players who aren't a part of it. better yet where can I find this info for myself, so I can look smarter about the goings on in eve. Mittens and Monty throw isk into the air and everyone holds out their hat to catch as much as they can. Monty is running out of isk. It isn't good, he might have to go to his spacesugardaddy to get more.
Hmm, I was worried something like this might happen if I left nullsec, maybe I should go back and stabilize the situation again.
Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
337
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Posted - 2013.03.05 18:35:00 -
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Caitlyn Tufy wrote: Tldr: null sec isn't safe because everyone is blue to everyone. Null sec is safe because there are players acting as a defensive buffer for the ratting areas.
I kinda wish more people recognised this when discussing null vs high. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3487
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Posted - 2013.03.05 20:31:00 -
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Takseen wrote:Caitlyn Tufy wrote: Tldr: null sec isn't safe because everyone is blue to everyone. Null sec is safe because there are players acting as a defensive buffer for the ratting areas.
I kinda wish more people recognised this when discussing null vs high. Nerf players.
You see, when players don't take care of themselves, you get CONCORD and NPC corps. See how much better it is if you rely on CCP to take care of you via game mechanics and NPCs? I am a nullsec zealot. |

Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
1455
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Posted - 2013.03.05 22:17:00 -
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Mostly they dump alts into WHs and farm isk. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4133
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Posted - 2013.03.06 03:51:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Mostly they dump alts into WHs and farm isk. Hahaha, that's cute. Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |

Kane Alvo
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis Dragonaors
48
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Posted - 2013.03.06 04:26:00 -
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Thermalize Schereau wrote:...I was wondering what a player does once they join one of these corps, to make ISK?
Make ISK with hisec alts. Spend far more time in hisec. Post on forums with "main" claiming to be a nullseccer, and that hisec needs to be nerfed. Profit. Caldari Militia -áGÿ£G£¬GÿP |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3495
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Posted - 2013.03.06 05:47:00 -
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Kane Alvo wrote:Thermalize Schereau wrote:...I was wondering what a player does once they join one of these corps, to make ISK? Make ISK with hisec alts. Spend far more time in hisec. Post on forums with "main" claiming to be a nullseccer, and that hisec needs to be nerfed. Profit. How do they profit, actually... I am a nullsec zealot. |
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