Just FYI, the CFC and HBC are at negative standings.

There are large coalitions, but no mega-coalition.

He said alot, This is in no way relevant.

In no way relevant?

There is no all blue null sec. There is no mega-coalition.

So I heard alot of null sec alliances have blued each other,

Is it true that thanks to the upgrading mechanics all systems in null-sec are essentially the same in terms of profitability (ignoring moon goo)?

Is it true that thanks to the upgrading mechanics all systems in null-sec are essentially the same in terms of profitability (ignoring moon goo)?

Yo dawg, I heard you like 0, -5 and -10 standings, so I blued all your nullsec. So that you can be hostile while you're blue.


Not subtle at all "nullsec is just blues" thread posted in.

As for an On Topic reply, besides some PI and reactions [who are still dependent on High Sec] there is really only killing rats and mining left, most money gets made in High Sec really.

In no way relevant?

There is no all blue null sec. There is no mega-coalition.

but aside from running plexes, what can these players do?

log on to their high sec alts.

Just FYI, the CFC and HBC are at negative standings.

There are large coalitions, but no mega-coalition.

So I heard alot of null sec alliances have blued each other, I was wondering what a player does once they join one of these corps, to make ISK?

pitched battles and wargames n stuff.

Can you hear everyone laughing at you?

also- about how many players are in this mega-coalition? compared to the amount of players who aren't a part of it. better yet where can I find this info for myself, so I can look smarter about the goings on in eve.

The largest megacoalition has about 34,000 characters in it. Nobody knows how many players it or any other group has.
There are at least 60,000 characters in other non-blue coalitions, and more that aren't affiliated with any.

In no way relevant?

There is no all blue null sec. There is no mega-coalition.

If we're all blue howcome I'm seeing all these ******* [B0RT] afk cloaks in my wonderful ratting systems? Why is half of my alliance deployed to NPC delve solely to torture HBC residents? Why is the entire south intent on knocking over SOLAR? These ******* blues don't know how to be blue to eachother.

we mine

http://eve-files.com/chribba/mining_waltz.jpg

If we're all blue howcome I'm seeing all these ******* [B0RT] afk cloaks in my wonderful ratting systems? Why is half of my alliance deployed to NPC delve solely to torture HBC residents? Why is the entire south intent on knocking over SOLAR? These ******* blues don't know how to be blue to eachother.

Because it's fun.

Its like war training for you guys...you know, for when the Providence residents decide they want to extend the Amarr Empire all the way down to Catch. HBC dont want to be out of practice.

The blue donut is best described like this.

The leadership tolerate each other. No one can be arsed to grind sov any more (note: NCDot put something in the water. Their members cant get enough of it). The grunts hate each other, so fights are still plentiful.

Are you trolling or do you honestly believe that the NRDS bloc is a threat to anyone in the game? I mean I'm sure they're a huge threat to N3, but even IRC can brush them aside.

Because it's fun.

Its like war training for you guys...you know, for when the Providence residents decide they want to extend the Amarr Empire all the way down to Catch. HBC dont want to be out of practice.

The blue donut is best described like this.

The leadership tolerate each other. No one can be arsed to grind sov any more (note: NCDot put something in the water. Their members cant get enough of it). The grunts hate each other, so fights are still plentiful.

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also- about how many players are in this mega-coalition? compared to the amount of players who aren't a part of it. better yet where can I find this info for myself, so I can look smarter about the goings on in eve.

I used http://raynor.cl/eve/coalition.php for this.
Not entirely sure how accurate it is.

This thread is now a 4S circlejerk.

"Yeah, were' totally not reset, I'll just go rat in my safe all blue nullsec heaven..."

"oh. well there went my ship. goddamnit topgoon! I used to fly with you! raarghrghrgh!"

We aren't doing sovwar because sovwar sucks and we don't hate each other. But the shooting is very constant, and the hostilities very real.

Finding this information out can be a bit hard, if you have no clue about the entities yet. Because EVE is like it is, we can only formalize Alliances. So you need to know which alliance is blue to which other alliances and thus forming a Coalition.

You find infos about alliance numbers here:
http://evewho.com/

Or here:
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliances

And you can check alliance standings here:
http://www.eveskunk.com/standings.php

Being blue to many other people doesn't mean there are no fights. Quite the contrary. We fight on a daily basis. Members that are staying in presumably safe areas (0.0 carebears) are being hunted down by small roaming gangs or hot drops. Also, not many people in 0.0 welcome new members that are only joining to get rich in a safe environment. You're usually required to join fleets and fight for your place. But you should try it. It's definitely more fun than Hi-Sec.

So I heard alot of null sec alliances have blued each other, I was wondering what a player does once they join one of these corps, to make ISK? I imagine its easier if most of the people areound are blue, but aside from running plexes, what can these players do?

also- about how many players are in this mega-coalition? compared to the amount of players who aren't a part of it. better yet where can I find this info for myself, so I can look smarter about the goings on in eve.

So I heard alot of null sec alliances have blued each other, I was wondering what a player does once they join one of these corps, to make ISK? I imagine its easier if most of the people areound are blue, but aside from running plexes, what can these players do?

also- about how many players are in this mega-coalition? compared to the amount of players who aren't a part of it. better yet where can I find this info for myself, so I can look smarter about the goings on in eve.

"Yeah, were' totally not reset, I'll just go rat in my safe all blue nullsec heaven..."

"oh. well there went my ship. goddamnit topgoon! I used to fly with you! raarghrghrgh!"

We aren't doing sovwar because sovwar sucks and we don't hate each other. But the shooting is very constant, and the hostilities very real.

Mittens and Monty throw isk into the air and everyone holds out their hat to catch as much as they can.

Monty is running out of isk. It isn't good, he might have to go to his spacesugardaddy to get more.

Tldr: null sec isn't safe because everyone is blue to everyone. Null sec is safe because there are players acting as a defensive buffer for the ratting areas.

I kinda wish more people recognised this when discussing null vs high.

Mostly they dump alts into WHs and farm isk.

...I was wondering what a player does once they join one of these corps, to make ISK?

Make ISK with hisec alts.
Spend far more time in hisec.
Post on forums with "main" claiming to be a nullseccer, and that hisec needs to be nerfed.
Profit.

How do they profit, actually...

wait wat? so null-seccers have toons in both null AND high sec? where do all the damn "nerf-null" or "nerf-high sec" topics come from then?

Schizophrenia

If all of them are blue between them ... they can:

Mine in peace
Suck moon goo in peace
Running Plexes in peace,
Travel to Jita in peace with all the stuff they made in peace.
They can do some gentlemen skirmishes and sell ships for those who lost them in their gentlemen skirmishes.
etc etc etc

But this all sounds horribly boring to me. Where the hell is the excitement, the living on the edge of your seat kind of thing?

Just FYI, the CFC and HBC are at negative standings.

There are large coalitions, but no mega-coalition.