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Derdrake
The House of Tascien
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:32:00 -
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Hi all,
Long time player, fairly new to posting:
I thought I'd share this with the forum as it struck me as odd and I was wondering if this is now the common practise.
So 2 nights ago I was happily mining some Gold Omber in a 0.5 sec space when two ships flew in, destroyed my vesel without any warning or provication. One of then emailed me that I'd voilated a mining presavatory rule and that unless I pay 100 million they would issue a bounty on me. At first I didn't reply other than to voice my annoyance at both of them attacking an unarmed ship and that's its hardly a fair fight. I may have used one or two adult words in my chat to them...
However 2 minutes later one of them then posted a 100,000 isk bounty on me for this mining voilation of preserved ore and made me an enemy (little red tag on their ID's)
Is this legal? its certainly not fair as I was bothing no one, just doing some mining as I'd not seen Gold Omber (the asteroid belts where I mine are often depleted by the time I get online (around 9pm GMT) .
So other than just rotten luck in a 0.5 sector space, is this now the practise, that one can attack at whim and blow up ships and issue what appears to be a completely unrealistic email that I must pay a financial penalty otherwise they would issue a bounty?
Suffice to say I returned to that asteroid belt 10 minutes later armed to the hilt but they'd left the space. I also lost my augments in the attack, which is more annoying than the 200 million mining ship full of cargo
I thought there was an intent to do compat (or something like that) option now, which I didn't get any forewarning.
Happy to hear the forums comments
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Praetor Meles
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:35:00 -
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In before lock. |
Whitehound
1138
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:35:00 -
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Nothing special. EVE has all sorts of players. You have encountered the bottom feeders.
Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1020
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:37:00 -
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You don't have a bounty.
Mining Overhaul
Nothing changed since 2008. |
Derdrake
The House of Tascien
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:38:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Nothing special. EVE has all sorts of players. You have encountered the bottom feeders.
Those weren't quite the words I used, but I get what you mean
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Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:41:00 -
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YHBT
Welcome to EVE Online... The universe is trolling.
also, putting a bounty on people shows you care. |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
2828
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:42:00 -
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Why haven't you informed yourself about the game *before* you started playing it ?
You can't opt out of ship combat (unless you stay docked) and fair fights are bullshit.
A fair fight is pretty much the most unrealistic thing that can happen,
in both EvE and the real world, unless it's sports.
Congratulations, you have made yourself a target... *
Rightfully so. :)
(not for me. I don't shoot minors) |
loki energon
Voodoo Children
Workers Trade Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:44:00 -
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so, using what should be a considerable wallet, as you are a miner, bounty him back......put 500m bounty on his a$$ 
kill em all. |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
2828
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:45:00 -
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I missed the first line.
Long time player ? Doubtfull, considering the crap you've posted.
Also
Quote:Suffice to say I returned to that asteroid belt 10 minutes later armed to the hilt but they'd left the space.
That would have ended ... very well. *lol* |
Ka'Narlist
Cronos Titan
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:46:00 -
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Derdrake wrote:
Is this legal?
No it is not!
As the new CONCORD agent responsible for the security of peacefull mining ventures you should come visit me in my office in NOL to discuss further options to put a stop on those shamefull attacks on you and bringing those thugs to justice. |
Derdrake
The House of Tascien
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:46:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Why haven't you informed yourself about the game *before* you started playing it ?
You can't opt out of ship combat (unless you stay docked) and fair fights are bullshit.
A fair fight is pretty much the most unrealistic thing that can happen,
in both EvE and the real world, unless it's sports.
Congratulations, you have made yourself a target... *
Rightfully so. :)
(not for me. I don't shoot minors)
Don't get me wrong, I understand its a dog eat dog universe, but it takes a pretty shallow F*&K to attack a mining vessel with little shields and no offensive/defensive weapons. actually other than my destroyed vessel and my loss of augments, I see no point in attacking as their security standing would go down and they themselves would be a target.
It wasn't the attack I was commenting on, but the way in which I was emailed a Voilation email, if such rules existed, surely one would be informed after one jumps to that sector, OR leaves a starbase. |
4runner
Eternal Profiteers
Eternal Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:49:00 -
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Lol, highsec is now full of pirates and thieves and crimes, while 0.0 is a safe haven hahah. I love it !! |
Derdrake
The House of Tascien
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:49:00 -
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loki energon wrote:so, using what should be a considerable wallet, as you are a miner, bounty him back......put 500m bounty on his a$$
I thought about doing that, however, surely one of his friends would trash his ship, pocket the cash and share it with him... No ?
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Jensaro Koraka
Serenity Prime
Kraken.
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:51:00 -
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It's a sandbox game. People can do whatever they want. You have to be trying really hard to get yourself killed in high sec without a wardec though.
Derdrake wrote:loki energon wrote:so, using what should be a considerable wallet, as you are a miner, bounty him back......put 500m bounty on his a$$ I thought about doing that, however, surely one of his friends would trash his ship, pocket the cash and share it with him... No ?
Nope. It used to be like that, but they fixed it. Now you get 20% of the value of the destroyed ship or the amount of the bounty, whichever is lower.
"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
-H.L. Mencken |
Derdrake
The House of Tascien
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:51:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:I missed the first line. Long time player ? Doubtfull, considering the crap you've posted. Also Quote:Suffice to say I returned to that asteroid belt 10 minutes later armed to the hilt but they'd left the space. That would have ended ... very well. *lol*
Don't be a hater, makes you look old! did I say old I meant a tiny diseased ****!
If I want to play the game mining and doing simple missions, that's my choice, it doesn't detract from how you play it... |
baltec1
Bat Country
5486
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:53:00 -
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Let us investigate.
Your ship
Problem here is you fitted no tank at all and a full rack of t2 strips, t2 prop mod and a pair of cargo expanders which further reduce your tank. End result, you were profitable to kill just with one of those destroyers.
Given that they also podded you I would also say you were AFK at the time.
My advice is fit a tank next time and deploy a flight of ECM drones while mining. |
Jensaro Koraka
Serenity Prime
Kraken.
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:53:00 -
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Derdrake wrote:Solstice Project wrote:I missed the first line. Long time player ? Doubtfull, considering the crap you've posted. Also Quote:Suffice to say I returned to that asteroid belt 10 minutes later armed to the hilt but they'd left the space. That would have ended ... very well. *lol* Don't be a hater, makes you look old! did I say old I meant a tiny diseased ****!
Do be fair you do show a profound ignorance of basic game mechanics.
"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
-H.L. Mencken |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:54:00 -
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Derdrake wrote:It wasn't the attack I was commenting on, but the way in which I was emailed a Voilation email, if such rules existed, surely one would be informed after one jumps to that sector, OR leaves a starbase.
You're not serious, right?
Right?
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Aracimia Wolfe
void.
Happy Endings
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:55:00 -
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Derdrake wrote:loki energon wrote:so, using what should be a considerable wallet, as you are a miner, bounty him back......put 500m bounty on his a$$ I thought about doing that, however, surely one of his friends would trash his ship, pocket the cash and share it with him... No ?
Can't tell if Trolling or really not reading patch notes.....
This is standard for eve, also I'd suggest reading up on Concord responses in Hi Sec and the new bounty mechanics.
Malcanis for CSM 8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717
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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
2828
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:55:00 -
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Derdrake wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Why haven't you informed yourself about the game *before* you started playing it ?
You can't opt out of ship combat (unless you stay docked) and fair fights are bullshit.
A fair fight is pretty much the most unrealistic thing that can happen,
in both EvE and the real world, unless it's sports.
Congratulations, you have made yourself a target... *
Rightfully so. :)
(not for me. I don't shoot minors) Don't get me wrong, I understand its a dog eat dog universe, but it takes a pretty shallow F*&K to attack a mining vessel with little shields and no offensive/defensive weapons. actually other than my destroyed vessel and my loss of augments, I see no point in attacking as their security standing would go down and they themselves would be a target. It wasn't the attack I was commenting on, but the way in which I was emailed a Voilation email, if such rules existed, surely one would be informed after one jumps to that sector, OR leaves a starbase. Bullshit.
Reflect !
You got your ass kicked because of your own fault. You know it's a dog-eat-dog universe,
but sit around in a belt with no tank whatsoever. Don't blame others for your mistakes.
If i see you autopiloting in a shuttle in highsec, i'd blow your head off too.
That's the shuttle AND the pod, in one go.
Why ?
Because you're autopiloting in a shuttle, with a chance of having hundreds of millions of isk in your head.
Anybody who does that *deserves* to get killed, because highsec isn't safe enough to do so.
Same for miners who sit around in untanked ships. They are asking for it.
And that these gankers roleplay what they do ... well ... it's a MMO R P G, right ?
Suck it up, play the game. The worst thing you could do, btw, is making a thread about it,
because that only attracts even more gankers.
TL;DR:
The issue is with you, not them.
Talking bad about them for playing the game in a way it's ment to be played just underlines this even more. |
Derdrake
The House of Tascien
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:57:00 -
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Jensaro Koraka wrote:Derdrake wrote:Solstice Project wrote:I missed the first line. Long time player ? Doubtfull, considering the crap you've posted. Also Quote:Suffice to say I returned to that asteroid belt 10 minutes later armed to the hilt but they'd left the space. That would have ended ... very well. *lol* Don't be a hater, makes you look old! did I say old I meant a tiny diseased ****! To be fair you do show a profound ignorance of basic game mechanics.
and that's my ignorance to play with surely?
This isn't a let all complain about my lack of experience in game mechanics. my OP was to ask if this is the accepted norm to issue a email after the fact quoting some violation and demanding money. |
Cannibal Kane
The African Terrorist
1487
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Posted - 2013.03.05 12:59:00 -
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Hello...
My beautiful wardec list of future targets just gets higher and higher.
I love this game.
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1020
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Posted - 2013.03.05 13:03:00 -
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He claims to have been mining Omber, yet the ship is full of Plagioclase and Veldspar....
I smell a troll.
Mining Overhaul
Nothing changed since 2008. |
baltec1
Bat Country
5486
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Posted - 2013.03.05 13:03:00 -
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Derdrake wrote:my OP was to ask if this is the accepted norm to issue a email after the fact quoting some violation and demanding money.
It is perfectly fine and well within the rules. |
Whitehound
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Posted - 2013.03.05 13:04:00 -
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Derdrake wrote:Don't get me wrong, I understand its a dog eat dog universe, but it takes a pretty shallow F*&K to attack a mining vessel with little shields and no offensive/defensive weapons. actually other than my destroyed vessel and my loss of augments, I see no point in attacking as their security standing would go down and they themselves would be a target.
It wasn't the attack I was commenting on, but the way in which I was emailed a Voilation email, if such rules existed, surely one would be informed after one jumps to that sector, OR leaves a starbase.
They believe in having the smaller loss being a win. They have never experienced anything but losses in their young lives, and so it is only normal for them to believe that what they do is a win. The cuteness gets fuelled by the Great Ramblings - bloggers, who sit alone in their basement with the door locked and making speeches on the Internet to the imaginary one billion readers.
Do not underestimate the power, which lies therein.
Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling. |
Tialano Utrigas
Critical Mass Inc.
Nexus Fleet
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Posted - 2013.03.05 13:05:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Let us investigate. Your shipProblem here is you fitted no tank at all and a full rack of t2 strips, t2 prop mod and a pair of cargo expanders which further reduce your tank. End result, you were profitable to kill just with one of those destroyers. Given that they also podded you I would also say you were AFK at the time. My advice is fit a tank next time and deploy a flight of ECM drones while mining and dont wander off if you want to keep those nice implants.
What this guys said^^
You need to catch up with the times a little bit here.
- Cargo Expanders dont do s**t for mining barges anymore since all the Ore goes into the Ore Hold which they dont affect.
- You had 3 free mid slots and a free rig. Most gankers will use a Catalyst with blasters and anti matter. Suggest you buffer your tank and tank against Kinetic (and a little bit of Thermal) damage.
- Fly a Mac. The Ore holds on a Hulk make them useless for solo mining since you have to return to station after every other cycle.
- Ignore everything in that email. Behind all that BS the message is clear. You were trolled by TEST. |
Piugattuk
Lima beans Corp
357
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Posted - 2013.03.05 13:12:00 -
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Damn dude that is the most pitiful fit on a mining ship I've seen so far.
If you want to mine in 0.5 then do it in a tanked procurer Concord response time is sloooow in that lvl of space.
Never mine in an exhumer solo untanked in ANY common roid belt, ever.
And always assume they will gank you this way you are vigilant.
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.05 13:27:00 -
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This thread...is not legit. |
Fouljin
Walk the Line
Meteor Blitzkrieg
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Posted - 2013.03.05 13:54:00 -
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Nothing to worry, whine, cry or argue'bout.
You have just had your fair share of Eve Online Sand Box where players create the content!
There are many corps/alliances that "take" highsec ore belts to theirs ownership on some systems and gank everyone who doesn't pay the mining rights. Only way to fight back is to wardec those corps and start a dogfight for ore. (or gank back)
Easier is to find another system and crunch some rock there.
It 100% legal and approved by ccp and other players.
Nuff said! |
Takseen
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
335
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Posted - 2013.03.05 13:56:00 -
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Derdrake wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I understand its a dog eat dog universe, but it takes a pretty shallow F*&K to attack a mining vessel with little shields and no offensive/defensive weapons.
P-I-R-A-C-Y. It was and still is entirely about ships with guns attacking other ships with fewer guns, and taking their stuff.
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Lightnin
PeanutPC Mining Fabracation Corp
9
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Posted - 2013.03.05 14:10:00 -
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tell me what is your security standings status with the current factions you are in?
did concord show up to help you when they started firing on you?
if you have a low security standing with the area factions then you will not be protected by the police
look into this to help you while you work in the mining busness
if you have to then work with the police in that area to build up your faction standing to receve the protection you need
runs some missions and storylines for them it will help
Go Far Go In or Don't Go |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1056
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Posted - 2013.03.05 14:19:00 -
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To the OP.
Your character has a 2006 birth date.
Stop trolling.
This is not a signature. |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.03.05 14:20:00 -
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Hi,
Trolling or causing others to troll is against the rules. Similarly, attacking people who've posted in your own thread isn't a very nice thing to do, and also against the rules.
Thread locked.
ISD Suvetar
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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