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Berd	Posted - 2003.07.25 15:16:00 - [1] "In my views, to set the standard so to speak, and then have the same thing happen to them and expect things to be different I think is rather pathetic." Who said that the TTI Execs "expected" things to be handled differently, Deathwing? As far as I can see only two people have: you and Overkill. And last time I checked, neither of you are TTI Execs. :) When an incident like this happens it is pretty much expected that bad PR will result--just like in Overkill's case, and that whole thing sounded like it was very ugly and unfortunate. But you know who is going to take the brunt of that negativity? The person at the top. Did Overkill not expect that? My point is this: TTI did not set that standard; that standard is common in the business world. One could say that it is a Commandment, but that could be construed as blasphemy by some. :P
Berd Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2003.07.25 15:16:00 - [2] "In my views, to set the standard so to speak, and then have the same thing happen to them and expect things to be different I think is rather pathetic." Who said that the TTI Execs "expected" things to be handled differently, Deathwing? As far as I can see only two people have: you and Overkill. And last time I checked, neither of you are TTI Execs. :) When an incident like this happens it is pretty much expected that bad PR will result--just like in Overkill's case, and that whole thing sounded like it was very ugly and unfortunate. But you know who is going to take the brunt of that negativity? The person at the top. Did Overkill not expect that? My point is this: TTI did not set that standard; that standard is common in the business world. One could say that it is a Commandment, but that could be construed as blasphemy by some. :P
Berd	Posted - 2003.07.25 15:36:00 - [3] "If the man's story proves to be true, as it appears to be, then you should pay him back and then take appropriate action to fine or evict the guilty party. As it is, your current stance means that the TTi name isn't worth the paper it's written on." Did you read all of the posts, here?
Berd Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2003.07.25 15:36:00 - [4] "If the man's story proves to be true, as it appears to be, then you should pay him back and then take appropriate action to fine or evict the guilty party. As it is, your current stance means that the TTi name isn't worth the paper it's written on." Did you read all of the posts, here?
Berd	Posted - 2003.07.25 18:26:00 - [5] Edited by: Berd on 25/07/2003 18:27:53 Overkill, Your initial posts sounded like you expected a different kind of response than the one you got out of the events that happened awhile back. My apologies for the misinterpretation. And I do see your point about the disclaimer that may be placed on our site being a bad idea. Part of me agrees with that. As for everything else that you stated I will reiterate: : TTI did not set that standard; that standard is common in the business world. That standard being accountability for indisgressions of ones' employees. And I think the path of action that we are currently taking with regard to this infinity venture fund fiasco is an admission of that accountability. Am I missing something? It doesn't seem like you and I are too much disagreement here, Overkill. :) Of course I am working on very little sleep so maybe I am seeing double. Edited for speeling.
Berd Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2003.07.25 18:26:00 - [6] Edited by: Berd on 25/07/2003 18:27:53 Overkill, Your initial posts sounded like you expected a different kind of response than the one you got out of the events that happened awhile back. My apologies for the misinterpretation. And I do see your point about the disclaimer that may be placed on our site being a bad idea. Part of me agrees with that. As for everything else that you stated I will reiterate: : TTI did not set that standard; that standard is common in the business world. That standard being accountability for indisgressions of ones' employees. And I think the path of action that we are currently taking with regard to this infinity venture fund fiasco is an admission of that accountability. Am I missing something? It doesn't seem like you and I are too much disagreement here, Overkill. :) Of course I am working on very little sleep so maybe I am seeing double. Edited for speeling.
Berd	Posted - 2003.07.26 02:51:00 - [7] Edited by: Berd on 26/07/2003 02:51:49 Hrmph... I've backed myself into the hypocrisy corner. I hate it when I do that. Curse my unprincipled nature. You know, maybe the standards of accountability are different for each corporation, because each corporation has its own ideals. For example, if a corporation follows a hive mind mentality, and says that the individual is responsible for any indisgressions against others, then that would not make any sense, would it? It would not be congruent with their ideals. If that is the case then all of those quotes from Calladen make perfect sense. To admit culpability for another's indisgressions would not be a good fit with TTI's values. Bottom line is you disagree with this standard (that is based on TTI's underlying philosophy), as does Overkill and I (to a certain degree). Okay, now that I have done a complete 180, and made a fool of myself, I am going to retire from this discussion for awhile. However, I could be gone for longer than awhile, as members from TTI's Re-Education Department are knocking at my door as we speak.
Berd Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2003.07.26 02:51:00 - [8] Edited by: Berd on 26/07/2003 02:51:49 Hrmph... I've backed myself into the hypocrisy corner. I hate it when I do that. Curse my unprincipled nature. You know, maybe the standards of accountability are different for each corporation, because each corporation has its own ideals. For example, if a corporation follows a hive mind mentality, and says that the individual is responsible for any indisgressions against others, then that would not make any sense, would it? It would not be congruent with their ideals. If that is the case then all of those quotes from Calladen make perfect sense. To admit culpability for another's indisgressions would not be a good fit with TTI's values. Bottom line is you disagree with this standard (that is based on TTI's underlying philosophy), as does Overkill and I (to a certain degree). Okay, now that I have done a complete 180, and made a fool of myself, I am going to retire from this discussion for awhile. However, I could be gone for longer than awhile, as members from TTI's Re-Education Department are knocking at my door as we speak.

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