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Tweaks Huren
Sturmgrenadier Inc
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Posted - 2013.03.19 20:16:00 -
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Alx Warlord wrote:Mikaila Penshar wrote:Alx Warlord wrote:TL;DR version:
Allow players to merge all accounts into one and log on them with no problem. but why? The idea is to give CCP an easy way to track the players instead of the characters, so they would be able to have a measure on this and also to maybe give some benefits for those who contribute to the game having many alts, and lowering entrance barriers in the game. in other words: Help in statistic, that are base for decisions. and maybe will make people activate more alts and give more money to CCP, so they will hire more DEVS and develop a better game faster. I think CCP can easily track that information based on billing information. I don't see the added value of this suggestion.
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Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY
380
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Posted - 2013.03.20 16:55:00 -
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DataRunner Attor wrote:
"IF logged_chars > Maximum_allowed THEN log_permission = False"
Now, you need to define logged_Chars that's another 4 to 5 lines of code
now you need to redefine log_Permissions now that a few extra lines of coding
Maximum_Allowed: Now you have to redefine this, which is some extra lines of coding.
then you now need to debug it to make sure you didn't break any other code that could be tied to other predefined... But you are a programmer right? So you know all about this. I myself am not a programmer, My major is actually in CIS or computer information systems I deal with how software talks to hardware and vis-versa, and I'm still forced to learn the basics of programming.
Yep, that is preatty much it. Don't you think that this part is simple? well, at last for you? despite the fact that it will take some time to review, compile, run, review compile, run again and publish?
I think that the hardest part would be to creaete the new UI to manage this feature, and change the acess permission on the DB. (Most of the subscription information is probably in different DBs.)
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Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY
380
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Posted - 2013.03.20 17:00:00 -
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Pan Dora wrote:
edited above to put back the point you choose to ignore. Your ideia makes WAAAAYYYYY Cheaper to maintain an alt army.
*Its to good a advantage to not use. Your whole answer its moot snce you misinterpreted my semantics. I'm thinking that you made it on purprose so you keep the thread alive while not answering to the critics the idea its receiving.
So, do you think that lockng the characters in blocks of 3 would be a good Idea? So you can only access them if you pay for the stack? allowing to train 1 of them at a time? (more like the way it is now but with a better interface an slight discount on alt accounts subscription.) ?
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Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY
380
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Posted - 2013.03.20 17:04:00 -
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Tweaks Huren wrote:Alx Warlord wrote:Mikaila Penshar wrote:Alx Warlord wrote:TL;DR version:
Allow players to merge all accounts into one and log on them with no problem. but why? The idea is to give CCP an easy way to track the players instead of the characters, so they would be able to have a measure on this and also to maybe give some benefits for those who contribute to the game having many alts, and lowering entrance barriers in the game. in other words: Help in statistic, that are base for decisions. and maybe will make people activate more alts and give more money to CCP, so they will hire more DEVS and develop a better game faster. I think CCP can easily track that information based on billing information. I don't see the added value of this suggestion. -1
different accounts from diferent persons can be payd by the same person. like a father paying for their soons, or 1 guy gathering their friends monney and paying for them (this happens). would you ban everyone just because of 1? I don't think that CCP does this... Please read this! > New POS system (Block Built) Please read this! > Refining and Reprocess Revamp |

Tweaks Huren
Sturmgrenadier Inc
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Posted - 2013.03.20 20:49:00 -
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Alx Warlord wrote:Tweaks Huren wrote:Alx Warlord wrote:Mikaila Penshar wrote:Alx Warlord wrote:TL;DR version:
Allow players to merge all accounts into one and log on them with no problem. but why? The idea is to give CCP an easy way to track the players instead of the characters, so they would be able to have a measure on this and also to maybe give some benefits for those who contribute to the game having many alts, and lowering entrance barriers in the game. in other words: Help in statistic, that are base for decisions. and maybe will make people activate more alts and give more money to CCP, so they will hire more DEVS and develop a better game faster. I think CCP can easily track that information based on billing information. I don't see the added value of this suggestion. -1 different accounts from diferent persons can be payd by the same person. like a father paying for their soons, or 1 guy gathering their friends monney and paying for them (this happens). would you ban everyone just because of 1? I don't think that CCP does this...
I know this... The thing is that there is no way for CCP to know if an account is being shared or not between players or not. The only thing that could potentially tie an account with another one is the account information itself (address, name, email, billing info etc...). You can't use the IP address of the client since multiple different accounts could come from the same network and would be legit, and you can't prevent someone from running multiple clients on the same computer because they also could be legit accounts (i.e. playing a friend's account while he's on vacation or something like that).
What you suggest if I understand correctly is to offer a voluntary option for players to merge their accounts and share pools of pilot licenses. For this to work and be worth it, there would have to be major incentives for players to merge their multiple accounts, such as major rebates for PLEX when using merged accounts, or something similar. That said, there are still thousands of players which would just stay with separate accounts and there is no proper way for CCP to force people to merge them since they can't know for sure if two accounts belong to the same person or not.
Bottom line, in my opinion, is that for this to work and be worth it, it would need to be all or nothing. Either everybody merges their accounts, or nobody does. That said, as long as you can create new merged "master accounts" using different billing information or email, then people will be able to split their accounts. |

Pan Dora
Stardust Enterprises
7
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Posted - 2013.03.21 03:07:00 -
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Alx Warlord wrote:Pan Dora wrote:
edited above to put back the point you choose to ignore. Your ideia makes WAAAAYYYYY Cheaper to maintain an alt army.
*Its to good a advantage to not use. Your whole answer its moot snce you misinterpreted my semantics. I'm thinking that you made it on purprose so you keep the thread alive while not answering to the critics the idea its receiving.
So, do you think that lockng the characters in blocks of 3 would be a good Idea? So you can only access them if you pay for the stack? allowing to train 1 of them at a time? (more like the way it is now but with a better interface an slight discount on alt accounts subscription.) ? What can be done to make this interesting?
That is looking reasonable. I think locking characters on blocks of 3 its not needed. Just maintaining the 3:1 ratio of characters available/training its probably enough to not making this too big advantage but still encourage people to do it. (it would work like free character transfers for accounts of same owner).
So, what your idea about that new interface? I can imagine some sort of 'master password' that can be used to access several accounts character list, the player select which ones to connect. Maybe connected/training character get some highlight (that can be turned off). There can be security concerns, but I suppose its pretty common practice among multi-account users to use the same password anyway.
Some other points that deserve some consideration: what if a player have 3 accounts unified and decide to sell 3 characters (lets suppose a char block if its how its implemented). Can he turn his 3 Unified accounts into 2 unified accounts? Can he turn his 3 unified account into 3 independent accounts? Can he put just 1 of his 3 unified accounts into unsubscribed status? If yes, what happens with the characters of the unsubscribed account?
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Tarn Kugisa
Infinite Covenant Tribal Band
399
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Posted - 2013.03.21 05:45:00 -
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I'm still a 1-account player, but I honestly think this could work well.
Could you also log into the same account, and use a different character? I'd like to be able to do that I Endorse this Product and/or Service EVE Online Battle Recorder When I press F1 I get ISK |

StoneCold
House of Sparrows
94
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Posted - 2013.03.21 07:40:00 -
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And a single API-Check will reveal my private army?
Also i don-¦t want to merge my accounts. It-¦s working at them moment (with now downside).
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Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY
380
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Posted - 2013.03.22 00:22:00 -
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StoneCold wrote:And a single API-Check will reveal my private army?
Also i don-¦t want to merge my accounts. It-¦s working at them moment (with now downside).
NEVER TOUCH A RUNNING SYSTEM
Full API? Probably. Butyou can always give a partial API, if you have something to hide, or want to scam someone.
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Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY Last Resort.
456
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Posted - 2013.05.07 01:56:00 -
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Tarn Kugisa wrote:I'm still a 1-account player, but I honestly think this could work well.
Could you also log into the same account, and use a different character? I'd like to be able to do that Yes in this idea...
I would like too... Please read these! > New POS system > New SOV system |
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Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY Last Resort.
462
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:38:00 -
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Well.... Close Enough! 
http://evenews24.com/2013/05/10/dual-character-training-live-on-sisi/
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Tribal Band
504
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Posted - 2013.05.11 05:01:00 -
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+1 I agree. Should be easy to allow a second payment plan on the same account to allow two characters to train at once. After that, just allow an account to run as many characters as it has licenses for. Would also be nice to increase the character limit. Maybe a person would have to pay money to increase the character limit, but this charge could be gradually waved through buying subscription - just to thwart people trying to abuse the system. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. |

Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY Extinction Level Event.
465
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Posted - 2013.05.15 18:42:00 -
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Now with DEV BLOG! http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/dual-character-training/ Please read these! > New POS system > New SOV system |

Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY
476
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Posted - 2013.06.06 03:44:00 -
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After the dual character training and the odyssey expansion, the PLEX consume is rising incredibly fast along with its price! This was spectated ... more people are playing eve... this is a good time to trow some plexes in the market and harvest ISK! Please read these! > New POS system > New SOV system |

Douglas Whyte
WhyteKream
6
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Posted - 2013.06.06 03:54:00 -
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With Eve doing the "ONE LOGIN" overhaul, this idea does have some merit to their vision.
Honestly though I don't like the idea of 1 account allowing you to play 2 at the same time, unless BOTH character's were paid to by plex. Right now we have the TRAIN/PLAY method in effect, and it's nice. I would like to play both at the same time since they are both using plex, however I don't feel it right to continue doing so when one no longer needs to train.
Every character logged in, should be a character paid for by plex.
However if they made the ability for me to link accounts together and upon logging in, the option to launch each account through the launcher with their own unique cache and settings, this would go great promoting their new launcher and do well to make it practical for the common player. |
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