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Squat King MegaTech Solutions 8	Posted - 2013.03.06 22:13:00 - [1] - Quote Hello, i am in need of capital 50 billion isk i have a high sec production pos, with all the infrastructure and the main bulk of the blueprints needed. but i do need to use all the production slots i have, and im missing a large amount of capital to put up in buy orders to get the profit margins on my side. while keeping the pos running at its capacity. if anyone have some ideas,advice or question please ask, im online ingame most of the time if you wish to chat drop me convo. or ask here.
Grendell Technologies Unlimited Superior Eve Engineering 214	Posted - 2013.03.06 22:16:00 - [2] - Quote Squat King wrote: Hello, i am in need of capital 50 billion isk i have a high sec production pos, with all the infrastructure and the main bulk of the blueprints needed. but i do need to use all the production slots i have, and im missing a large amount of capital to put up in buy orders to get the profit margins on my side. while keeping the pos running at its capacity. if anyone have some ideas,advice or question please ask, im online ingame most of the time if you wish to chat drop me convo. or ask here. If you can provide the collateral using your bpos I can get you the full funding. Gùä[GÖÑ]Gû¦ 3rd Party Service Gùä[GÖÑ]Gû¦ GÖÑ Securing Peace of mind GÖÑ Loans available
Squat King MegaTech Solutions 8	Posted - 2013.03.06 22:30:00 - [3] - Quote well the bps aren't worth that much, and how could i use them if i gave them up for securing the loan?
Havoc Zealot Sky Fighters Talocan United 21	Posted - 2013.03.06 22:44:00 - [4] - Quote lay us out a detailed business plan and what kind of returns investors are expected to make.
Squat King MegaTech Solutions 8	Posted - 2013.03.06 22:54:00 - [5] - Quote The basic is as i stated to get a high sec large tower running at max efficiency the return on investment is 2,5% each month
Squat King MegaTech Solutions 8	Posted - 2013.03.06 23:13:00 - [6] - Quote 20 billion will be spent on buying 3 more characters to fill the character slots on my accounts 30 billion to buy minerals needed to run all production slots at max efficiency so they overlap with the time frame copy/manufacture
Candy Oshea Techfree Investment Group 161	Posted - 2013.03.06 23:21:00 - [7] - Quote Gidday mayte 20b on new characters, 30b on minerals. anything else? Would you also like some blankets and a pillow? it can get quite cold in dreamland this time of year. iCandy - Bonds. - I have accidently swallowed some Scrabble tiles, my next **** could spell disaster! iCandy Custom Corp Creation & Corp boosting service
Tom Hagen Twilight Empire Blazing Angels Alliance 118	Posted - 2013.03.06 23:24:00 - [8] - Quote How did you find this part of the forum? Apparently you haven't read any of the post regarding loans! What ever you have in your nut sack it must be huge! Whatever you have in your head must be occupied else were.. Good luck anyway m8! I will get back to you when you have a real thread up :-P
Pwnzer Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.03.06 23:26:00 - [9] - Quote Why the hell would you spend that much ISK on industry alts when you can train them in a relatively short amount of time?
Candy Oshea Techfree Investment Group 161	Posted - 2013.03.06 23:29:00 - [10] - Quote Pwnzer wrote: Why the hell would you spend that much ISK on industry alts when you can train them in a relatively short amount of time? how long does it take?, we may as well discuss something usefull iCandy - Bonds. - I have accidently swallowed some Scrabble tiles, my next **** could spell disaster! iCandy Custom Corp Creation & Corp boosting service
Squat King MegaTech Solutions 8	Posted - 2013.03.06 23:30:00 - [11] - Quote Pwnzer wrote: Why the hell would you spend that much ISK on industry alts when you can train them in a relatively short amount of time? 1. it takes time training the character 2. i cant train more than one character per account so i lose sp if i switch to a new 3, if i where to make a new account just to train a alt then transfer, it would cost me at-lest 4 billion+ 5 months before i could use them buying them of the market saves me allot of time, and boost my production by 50% with no waiting time.
Tom Hagen Twilight Empire Blazing Angels Alliance 118	Posted - 2013.03.06 23:32:00 - [12] - Quote Candy Oshea wrote: Pwnzer wrote: Why the hell would you spend that much ISK on industry alts when you can train them in a relatively short amount of time? how long does it take?, we may as well discuss something usefull A good idea actually, Do anyone think we can report OP's first post and just make them rename the thread? While it is up we can make som use of it..
Arronicus Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made. 298	Posted - 2013.03.06 23:39:00 - [13] - Quote Candy Oshea wrote: Pwnzer wrote: Why the hell would you spend that much ISK on industry alts when you can train them in a relatively short amount of time? how long does it take?, we may as well discuss something usefull All plans assume cybernetics trained to level 1, to plug in +3 implants Tech 1 sub capital production, brand new character, 10 lab jobs, 10 build jobs, Anchoring III (for pos), Scientific networking III: 53days~ With capital production, up to carriers: 58days~ That's right. Under 2 months, for a brand new character that can now mass produce/research/copy everything tech 1 up to and including carriers. It's another 1-3 months for tech 2 stuff, depending on what you want to build.
Arronicus Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made. 298	Posted - 2013.03.06 23:43:00 - [14] - Quote Squat King wrote: Hello, i am in need of capital 50 billion isk i have a high sec production pos, with all the infrastructure and the main bulk of the blueprints needed. but i do need to use all the production slots i have, and im missing a large amount of capital to put up in buy orders to get the profit margins on my side. while keeping the pos running at its capacity. if anyone have some ideas,advice or question please ask, im online ingame most of the time if you wish to chat drop me convo. or ask here. So, you have an idea, and you had the 2-5billion in isk to get the blueprints, tower, standings raising fee, and pos fuel. But you don't actually have the isk, or all the characters, to run the jobs, or build and sell whatever it is you are wanting to build? Unless you have 50billion worth of blueprints, or close to that in terms of collateral you can put up, you are FAR over-extending yourself. Create a much more realistic goal. In eve, production plans that cost a lot to start up, have the better isk payouts, because they cost a lot to start up, and you initially have to work hard to get that isk to get them going. Not because just anyone can come, get a massive loan, flip 6-9 months of successful production and profits, and pay the loan back + pre-negotiated interest. Either list the value of collateral you would be able to put up, or try looking more in the loan region of 1-5billion isk.
Pwnzer Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.03.06 23:48:00 - [15] - Quote Arronicus wrote: Candy Oshea wrote: Pwnzer wrote: Why the hell would you spend that much ISK on industry alts when you can train them in a relatively short amount of time? how long does it take?, we may as well discuss something usefull All plans assume cybernetics trained to level 1, to plug in +3 implants Tech 1 sub capital production, brand new character, 10 lab jobs, 10 build jobs, Anchoring III (for pos), Scientific networking III: 53days~ With capital production, up to carriers: 58days~ That's right. Under 2 months, for a brand new character that can now mass produce/research/copy everything tech 1 up to and including carriers. It's another 1-3 months for tech 2 stuff, depending on what you want to build. This. About 2 months. T2 components just a little more training. If you want to build T2 cruisers and industrials it gets a bit longer.
Candy Oshea Techfree Investment Group 162	Posted - 2013.03.07 00:03:00 - [16] - Quote Pwnzer wrote: This. About 2 months. T2 components just a little more training. If you want to build T2 cruisers and industrials it gets a bit longer. figured. "So why does OP need 20b for characters then?" - those wouldn't cost more than 2-3b.! It seems to me this is a poorly conceived plan, for a quick cash grab, only the cash isn't being grabbed. iCandy - Bonds. - I have accidently swallowed some Scrabble tiles, my next **** could spell disaster! iCandy Custom Corp Creation & Corp boosting service
Squat King MegaTech Solutions 8	Posted - 2013.03.07 00:09:00 - [17] - Quote Candy Oshea wrote: Pwnzer wrote: This. About 2 months. T2 components just a little more training. If you want to build T2 cruisers and industrials it gets a bit longer. figured. "So why does OP need 20b for characters then?" - those wouldn't cost more than 2-3b.! It seems to me this is a poorly conceived plan, for a quick cash grab, only the cash isn't being grabbed. well it might not be a perfectly skilled character for sale with just the skills needed, and those figured are very basic id have to pay for the account thats 500m a month, plus the transfer fee of 1billion to my main accounts and the training time it self.
Candy Oshea Techfree Investment Group 162	Posted - 2013.03.07 00:12:00 - [18] - Quote Squat King wrote: Candy Oshea wrote: Pwnzer wrote: This. About 2 months. T2 components just a little more training. If you want to build T2 cruisers and industrials it gets a bit longer. figured. "So why does OP need 20b for characters then?" - those wouldn't cost more than 2-3b.! It seems to me this is a poorly conceived plan, for a quick cash grab, only the cash isn't being grabbed. well it might not be a perfectly skilled character for sale with just the skills needed, and those figured are very basic id have to pay for the account thats 500m a month, plus the transfer fee of 1billion to my main accounts and the training time it self. what are the skills needed? iCandy - Bonds. - I have accidently swallowed some Scrabble tiles, my next **** could spell disaster! iCandy Custom Corp Creation & Corp boosting service
Squat King MegaTech Solutions 8	Posted - 2013.03.07 00:31:00 - [19] - Quote Electronics / Rank 1 / Level: 5 Engineering / Rank 1 / Level: 5 Advanced Mass Production / Rank 8 /Level 4 Industry / Rank 1 / Level: 5 Mass Production / Rank 2 / Level: 5 Production Efficiency / Rank 3 / Level: 5 Mechanics / Rank 1 / Level: 5 Advanced Laboratory Operation / Rank 8 / Level: 4 Amarr Encryption Methods / Rank 5 / Level: 4 Amarrian Starship Engineering / Rank 5 / Level: 4 Caldari Encryption Methods / Rank 5 / Level: 4 Caldari Starship Engineering / Rank 5 / Level: 4 Electromagnetic Physics / Rank 5 / Level: 4 Electronic Engineering / Rank 5 / Level: 4 4 Gallente Encryption Methods / Rank 5 / Level: 4 Gallentean Starship Engineering / Rank 5 / Level: 4 Graviton Physics / Rank 5 / Level: 4 Hacking / Rank 3 / Level: 3 High Energy Physics / Rank 5 / Level: 4 Hydromagnetic Physics / Rank 5 / Level: 4 Laboratory Operation / Rank 1 / Level: 5 Laser Physics / Rank 5 / Level: 4 Mechanical Engineering / Rank 5 / Level: 4 Metallurgy / Rank 3 / Level: 5 Minmatar Encryption Methods / Rank 5 / Level: 4 Minmatar Starship Engineering / Rank 5 / Level: 4 Molecular Engineering / Rank 5 / Level: 4 Nanite Engineering / Rank 5 / Level: 4 Nuclear Physics / Rank 5 / Level: 4 Plasma Physics / Rank 5 / Level: 4 Quantum Physics / Rank 5 / Level: 4 Research / Rank 1 / Level: 5 Rocket Science / Rank 5 / Level: 4 Science / Rank 1 / Level: 5 Scientific Networking / Rank 3 / Level: 4
Trader CiCi Jack of all skills 12	Posted - 2013.03.07 00:36:00 - [20] - Quote https://secure.eveonline.com/PLEX/ Here's how I think of my money -- as soldiers -- I send them out to war everyday. I want them to take prisoners and come home, so there's more of them." - Kevin O'Leary/Shark Tank
Arronicus Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made. 300	Posted - 2013.03.07 02:09:00 - [21] - Quote Squat King wrote: Candy Oshea wrote: Pwnzer wrote: This. About 2 months. T2 components just a little more training. If you want to build T2 cruisers and industrials it gets a bit longer. figured. "So why does OP need 20b for characters then?" - those wouldn't cost more than 2-3b.! It seems to me this is a poorly conceived plan, for a quick cash grab, only the cash isn't being grabbed. well it might not be a perfectly skilled character for sale with just the skills needed, and those figured are very basic id have to pay for the account thats 500m a month, plus the transfer fee of 1billion to my main accounts and the training time it self. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, transfer fee is 1 (one) plex, Aka 500m.
Grendell Technologies Unlimited Superior Eve Engineering 214	Posted - 2013.03.07 02:10:00 - [22] - Quote Arronicus wrote: Squat King wrote: Candy Oshea wrote: Pwnzer wrote: This. About 2 months. T2 components just a little more training. If you want to build T2 cruisers and industrials it gets a bit longer. figured. "So why does OP need 20b for characters then?" - those wouldn't cost more than 2-3b.! It seems to me this is a poorly conceived plan, for a quick cash grab, only the cash isn't being grabbed. well it might not be a perfectly skilled character for sale with just the skills needed, and those figured are very basic id have to pay for the account thats 500m a month, plus the transfer fee of 1billion to my main accounts and the training time it self. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, transfer fee is 1 (one) plex, Aka 500m. 2 PLEX. Gùä[GÖÑ]Gû¦ 3rd Party Service Gùä[GÖÑ]Gû¦ GÖÑ Securing Peace of mind GÖÑ Loans available
Lux Imperator Soimii Patriei Nulli Secunda 29	Posted - 2013.03.07 02:47:00 - [23] - Quote Squat King wrote: 20 billion will be spent on buying 3 more characters to fill the character slots on my accounts 30 billion to buy minerals needed to run all production slots at max efficiency so they overlap with the time frame copy/manufacture Characters for what you are looking for are 5 bill maximum. You don't pay the transfer fee (2 PLEX) as the guy that is selling it pays. So for you three accounts you shouldn't pay more than 15 Bil. Also, 2.5% / month for an un-collaterised loan is a very small sum.
Alex Grison Grison Interstellar 175	Posted - 2013.03.07 04:27:00 - [24] - Quote Candy Oshea wrote: Gidday mayte 20b on new characters, 30b on minerals. anything else? Would you also like some blankets and a pillow? it can get quite cold in dreamland this time of year. DON'T SCARE HIM AWAY PLEASE I NEED THE COMPANY.
Arronicus Vintas Industries Mistakes Were Made. 300	Posted - 2013.03.07 05:57:00 - [25] - Quote Grendell wrote: Arronicus wrote: Squat King wrote: Candy Oshea wrote: Pwnzer wrote: This. About 2 months. T2 components just a little more training. If you want to build T2 cruisers and industrials it gets a bit longer. figured. "So why does OP need 20b for characters then?" - those wouldn't cost more than 2-3b.! It seems to me this is a poorly conceived plan, for a quick cash grab, only the cash isn't being grabbed. well it might not be a perfectly skilled character for sale with just the skills needed, and those figured are very basic id have to pay for the account thats 500m a month, plus the transfer fee of 1billion to my main accounts and the training time it self. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, transfer fee is 1 (one) plex, Aka 500m. 2 PLEX. Cheers. Haven't sold any characters myself. Always been put off by the 20$ fee or whatever. Recently learned that plex works though... Anyway, had a bit of a chat with OP in game, seem to have convinced him that his current production plan is a bit beyond his means, and he will be looking at scaling things down a bit (apparently). I'm in a similar position of needing some similarly skilled indy pilots, but I'm taking the other route, and just training them myself. You're looking at paying 3-5bil for convenience, but you can spend 3-4 months, train em yourself, and use that time to get used to your production, and ramp it up...
Kara Books Deal with IT. 427	Posted - 2013.03.07 07:34:00 - [26] - Quote Squat King wrote: Hello, i am in need of capital 50 billion isk i have a high sec production pos, with all the infrastructure and the main bulk of the blueprints needed. but i do need to use all the production slots i have, and im missing a large amount of capital to put up in buy orders to get the profit margins on my side. while keeping the pos running at its capacity. if anyone have some ideas,advice or question please ask, im online ingame most of the time if you wish to chat drop me convo. or ask here. Ya, profit margins, 2.5% you say. Im leaning towards believing you, BUT, you sound like you have no clue as to what your doing, in short you don't want to take the risk and want someone else to take it for you. Begin with small cheep BPO production, little by little you will grow, if "Crafting stuff" if what you crave. Tis one of the best games for the crafter types of gamers, enjoy it as it was meant to be enjoyed.
Saveritrader Sav Trading Invictus Void 24	Posted - 2013.03.07 11:38:00 - [27] - Quote You've simply did some basic research, bought some stuff, and are now waiting for the MD crowd to give you the ISK. If that's your plan, atleast give more in-depth detail in where you'll be making your profit. - If your profit margins are only existant if you buy the minerals from buy orders, you are going at it all wrong. - If you need 20 billion to buy characters for the production, you're going at it all wrong. - If you're only returning 2.5% a month on a uncollaterized loan, you're going at it all wrong. - If you don't have a portion of this production running already to give you some figures to work with, you're going at it all wrong. And there are more reasons why you're going at it all wrong, but you get the idea. I strongly get the impression you've missed some steps in this plan.
Candy Oshea Techfree Investment Group 180	Posted - 2013.03.07 12:01:00 - [28] - Quote So far thread belongs to Kara, "Crafting Stuff" :mysides: It was a close call, though, Alex's ALLCAPS statement started the snowball. Guess well have to see how it all pans out. iCandy - Bonds. - I have accidently swallowed some Scrabble tiles, my next **** could spell disaster! iCandy Custom Corp Creation & Corp boosting service
Alex Grison Grison Interstellar 177	Posted - 2013.03.07 16:42:00 - [29] - Quote Candy Oshea wrote: So far thread belongs to Kara, "Crafting Stuff" :mysides: It was a close call, though, Alex's ALLCAPS statement started the snowball. Guess well have to see how it all pans out. snowballs are cool.
Ronix Aideron The Ugly Ass Kickers Mech Alliance 74	Posted - 2013.03.07 16:50:00 - [30] - Quote Since Jerry has not posted yet. I would like to pledge 20 Billion http://eveboard.com/pilot/Ronix_Aideron
flakeys Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition 878	Posted - 2013.03.07 17:04:00 - [31] - Quote Ronix Aideron wrote: Since Jerry has not posted yet. I would like to pledge 20 Billion Yeah his mom punished him as he appearantly was watching filthy stuff on the internet , he's not allowed to play with the computer currently. We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Ark Destroyer Neutral Talent 280	Posted - 2013.03.08 00:16:00 - [32] - Quote Not to mention you would lose the invaluable "crafting" experience that is eve online, in how you could watch your small production become bigger and bigger, and before you know it you have your own supercapital shop! THEN maybe you should look into loans for kajillions of isk in order to finance future expansion. I think the experience of growing nothing up and up over the years is something any producer should experience. Neutral Talent CEO Specializing in "complete" super-capital packages Complete supercapital packages
Alex Grison Grison Interstellar 178	Posted - 2013.03.08 19:21:00 - [33] - Quote here is some capital ( the whole alphabet even ) A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z enjoy your capital

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