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Pewty McPew EVE Corporation 2357451 290	Posted - 2013.03.06 23:59:00 - [1] - Quote Should jumpgates in hisec be restricted by sec status? just as an example: -10 unable to activate anything leading into .5 and above -9 unable to activate anything leading into .6 and above -8 unable to activate anything leading into .7 and above -7 unable to activate anything leading into .8 and above -6 unable to activate anything leading into .9 and above Dosen't matter what you are in, pod or not, you just can't activate the gate. Why would Concord allow an outlaw into hisec at all? You want to come in, go kill a bunch of of stuff for us first to prove we can trust you. Or an alternative Concord could let the -10ers jump in then podkill them on sight. I mean really they are supposed to be the worst of the worst. You can still go gank the noob in his shiny new hulk, but you can't do it 200 times in a row without concord saying enough is enough. Well at least until you go kill a bunch of rats for us first :P
Dave Stark 1910	Posted - 2013.03.07 00:00:00 - [2] - Quote Pewty McPew wrote: noob in his shiny new hulk, isn't that an oxymoron? you're tired, stop posting.
MastaKari Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2013.03.07 00:09:00 - [3] - Quote no, for that to be an oxymoron it would be a newb in his hulk. II. Defining 'Noob' Contrary to the belief of many, a noob/n00b and a newbie/newb are not the same thing. Newbs are those who are new to some task* and are very beginner at it, possibly a little overconfident about it, but they are willing to learn and fix their errors to move out of that stage. n00bs, on the other hand, know little and have no will to learn any more. They expect people to do the work for them and then expect to get praised about it, and make up a unique species of their own. It is the latter we will study in this guide so that the reader is prepared to encounter them in the wild if needed.
Lugia3 Lurking Beneath 277	Posted - 2013.03.07 00:09:00 - [4] - Quote Your idea is bad and you should feel bad. So, you want to restrict pirates into single lowsec systems? Sounds a lot like you just want CCP to change the game to suit you at the expense of other ways of playing. What stops me from just staying in a system and having an alt bring my catalysts to pop all your Hulks? Nothing. Podkill? I'll just set my clone to the system. Remember kids, highsec is 100% safe from meanbears! Give drones some love: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2176396&#post2176396
Wacktopia Noir. 477	Posted - 2013.03.07 00:11:00 - [5] - Quote No. Hi sec PVP should stop being nerfed. This isn't Wendy-house-online, right? The bottom line is that now I have one of those annoying signatures.
BadAssMcKill Ghost Headquarters The Ghost Army 158	Posted - 2013.03.07 00:14:00 - [6] - Quote Please just stop Starships were meant to fly~
Zhade Lezte Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 91	Posted - 2013.03.07 00:14:00 - [7] - Quote Why should CONCORD be able to respond to capsuleer aggression in overwhelming, unstoppable force in seconds yet be unable to clear pirate frigates from the belts, or pirate battleships from highsec missions, proceeding to instead pay missioners ridiculous amounts of bounties to do it for them? Basically try again, but this time try to convince us not by some arbitrary definition of "realism" in a game with so many holes in such but with an argument of why this would make eve online a more interesting game to play. (Not that I think making hisec even safer would be at all good for the game, but at least you'd be arguing in a somewhat grounded manner!)
Galenwade Shrubbery Acquisitions 195	Posted - 2013.03.07 00:15:00 - [8] - Quote Pewty McPew wrote: Why would Concord allow an outlaw into hisec at all? You want to come in, go kill a bunch of of stuff for us first to prove we can trust you. Concord don't care , they are not there to make you safe they are there to curb stomp you when you are bad. Hi-Sec faction navy are the police and they are about as effective as a Civilian Gatling cannon on a iteron
Rek Seven DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale. 630	Posted - 2013.03.07 00:16:00 - [9] - Quote No. Is my bitter vet membership card in the mail?
Agent Lazuli New Order Logistics CODE. 3	Posted - 2013.03.07 00:16:00 - [10] - Quote Pewty McPew wrote: You can still go gank the noob in his shiny new hulk, but you can't do it 200 times in a row without concord saying enough is enough. Well at least until you go kill a bunch of rats for us first :P Have you purchased a mining permit Pewty? An Agent of the New Order of Highsec. Please follow the code. Purchase a mining permit. Check out: http://www.minerbumping.com/
NEONOVUS Saablast Followers 398	Posted - 2013.03.07 02:25:00 - [11] - Quote I approve of this idea. And to simplify traffic control can move the person to the appropriate security the next time they log in. Besides what is wrong with ratting? You make ISK while doing it and unless you get stuck in one system (to which I will say plan better and bla blah I'll take all your stuff, yes), you can get your sec status back in 2 days of minor work or a few hours if serious. Also dont you guys already work primarily in .5 sec, go after even fewer targets due to buffs and now global flags, and bump now because you cant find something better to make people rage over for 17.50 a month? Like getting really good at a COD game and listen to the sweet sweet vulgar tears of those you crush?
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3520	Posted - 2013.03.07 02:37:00 - [12] - Quote Pewty McPew wrote: Should jumpgates in hisec be restricted by sec status? just as an example: -10 unable to activate anything leading into .5 and above -9 unable to activate anything leading into .6 and above -8 unable to activate anything leading into .7 and above -7 unable to activate anything leading into .8 and above -6 unable to activate anything leading into .9 and above Dosen't matter what you are in, pod or not, you just can't activate the gate. Why would Concord allow an outlaw into hisec at all? You want to come in, go kill a bunch of of stuff for us first to prove we can trust you. Or an alternative Concord could let the -10ers jump in then podkill them on sight. I mean really they are supposed to be the worst of the worst. You can still go gank the noob in his shiny new hulk, but you can't do it 200 times in a row without concord saying enough is enough. Well at least until you go kill a bunch of rats for us first :P Make highsec safer. I agree with this. I am a nullsec zealot.
Mag's the united Negative Ten. 14362	Posted - 2013.03.07 02:48:00 - [13] - Quote Yea we shouldn't be allowed anywhere tbh, never mind high sec. Do I get a prize or something for agreeing? Malcanis for CSM 8. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Frostys Virpio Lame Corp Name 342	Posted - 2013.03.07 02:53:00 - [14] - Quote Pewty McPew wrote: You can still go gank the noob in his shiny new hulk, but you can't do it 200 times in a row without concord saying enough is enough. Well at least until you go kill a bunch of rats for us first :P The ganker would start finding way to supply themself without the need to use a jump gate. Oh wait...
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 6996	Posted - 2013.03.07 02:56:00 - [15] - Quote If players with negative security status can't get into hisec, why would pirate NPCs be able to? ~a proud belligerent undesirable~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3520	Posted - 2013.03.07 02:59:00 - [16] - Quote Andski wrote: If players with negative security status can't get into hisec, why would pirate NPCs be able to? Because they are NPCs. Not unlike the NPCs that make tons of top-grade stations, and then let you use all their manufacturing slots and stuff for really little... I am a nullsec zealot.
Frostys Virpio Lame Corp Name 342	Posted - 2013.03.07 02:59:00 - [17] - Quote Andski wrote: If players with negative security status can't get into hisec, why would pirate NPCs be able to? Well because just like stations, NPC ships are better of course. Are you sure you understand how this game works right now?
NEONOVUS Saablast Followers 398	Posted - 2013.03.07 03:08:00 - [18] - Quote Andski wrote: If players with negative security status can't get into hisec, why would pirate NPCs be able to? They actually are all equipped with point to point jump drives. Scram one some time and wait. It will warp off no matter how much you scram it.
Mara Rinn Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium 3160	Posted - 2013.03.07 03:13:00 - [19] - Quote Pilots with low sec status are already flagged for PvP when they enter hisec. You can shoot them with no consequences from CONCORD because the pilot is blinky red. We don't need any extra mechanisms to keep pirates out of hisec. Losing access to NPC stations when you upset them greatly would be a good idea, perhaps (e.g.: if you are a mission runner and have severely bad standings with Amarr, why would you be allowed to dock at their stations?) Losing the ability to travel just because you're -10 is insane: how will a pirate leave hisec after a suicide gank? Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players
Beekeeper Bob Beekeepers Anonymous 461	Posted - 2013.03.07 03:16:00 - [20] - Quote Too limiting to the sandbox..... But I'm all for a inspection hold of a few seconds at a gate if the status is too low, and the system status being jumped into is too high..... The single biggest danger to EVE is the proliferation of ALTS! Kill an alt today! Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3520	Posted - 2013.03.07 03:17:00 - [21] - Quote NEONOVUS wrote: Andski wrote: If players with negative security status can't get into hisec, why would pirate NPCs be able to? They actually are all equipped with point to point jump drives. Scram one some time and wait. It will warp off no matter how much you scram it. They probably have infinite warp core stab points, but you can activate the module on them, unlike a supercapital. Their infinite points is greater than the infinite points from a bubble as well, or an infinipoint from a hictor. I am a nullsec zealot.
Irya Boone TIPIAKS 214	Posted - 2013.03.07 03:18:00 - [22] - Quote No just NO But in the other hand ... i don't get HOW for BOB sake ennemi militia can get through system so easily ... maybe CCP should train Navy , make them stop eating donuts during work hours .... Improve C2 class WH More anos more signs ...RENAME null sec system With the name Of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It xill be awesome-á
Frostys Virpio Lame Corp Name 342	Posted - 2013.03.07 03:22:00 - [23] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: NEONOVUS wrote: Andski wrote: If players with negative security status can't get into hisec, why would pirate NPCs be able to? They actually are all equipped with point to point jump drives. Scram one some time and wait. It will warp off no matter how much you scram it. They probably have infinite warp core stab points, but you can activate the module on them, unlike a supercapital. Their infinite points is greater than the infinite points from a bubble as well, or an infinipoint from a hictor. Infinity plus one.
Caldari 5 The Element Syndicate 48	Posted - 2013.03.07 03:50:00 - [24] - Quote Beekeeper Bob wrote: Too limiting to the sandbox..... But I'm all for a inspection hold of a few seconds at a gate if the status is too low, and the system status being jumped into is too high..... Inspection Hold Time based on the Sec of the system that you are jumping into and your sec status? A bit like priority queuing :) Something like? 10x(the Sec of the system) - (your Sec status) - 10 eg A -10 guy jumping into a 0.5 system 100.5 - -10 -10 = 5 second jump wait maxing out at -10 guy jumping into a 1.0 system 101.0 - -10 -10 = 10 second jump wait A -6 guy jumping into a 0.5 system 100.5 - -6 -10 = 1 Second Jump wait maxing out at -6 guy jumping into a 1.0 system 101.0 - -6 -10 = 6 second jump wait
Alien Youth Exiter Corp Casoff 10	Posted - 2013.03.07 04:05:00 - [25] - Quote O god no... how am i going to fail at killing pods?
Sariah Kion School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 204	Posted - 2013.03.07 04:43:00 - [26] - Quote Yes! Actions have consequences. Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement President Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs. *A modern girl for a modern world.*
Lady Areola Fappington New Order Logistics CODE. 36	Posted - 2013.03.07 05:06:00 - [27] - Quote Sariah Kion wrote: Yes! Actions have consequences. Actions already have consequences. Poor sec status leads to facpo chasing us on undock, which prevents us from engaging in the gripping and exhilarating PVE CCP is so fond of. At blinkyred status, it also means we can be shot at by any passing guy who wishes to take a potshot. Consequences have been had. Moving along.... 315 4 CSM8!
stoicfaux 2506	Posted - 2013.03.07 05:19:00 - [28] - Quote Meh, makes sense from an RP perspective. From a gameplay perspective, Eve is about consequences, but being effectively banned from high-sec might be a bit much.
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance 4149	Posted - 2013.03.07 05:22:00 - [29] - Quote Sariah Kion wrote: Yes! Actions have consequences. This just in: Having faction police shoot at you everywhere and being KOS to every single player in highsec doesn't count as a consequence. Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 2349	Posted - 2013.03.07 05:27:00 - [30] - Quote Mara Rinn wrote: Losing the ability to travel just because you're -10 is insane: how will a pirate leave hisec after a suicide gank? High sec is a tiny piece of the universe. You need never go through it to get from anywhere to anywhere. Secondly, it would have to be a spectacular gank to go from being allowed in high to -10 in one shot. I dare say the trip would be made via a new clone due to being podded by Concord. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!

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