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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4146
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Posted - 2013.03.07 00:56:00 -
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Tippia wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Blockading with normal game mechanics is fine. Blockading by taking advantage of server limitations is not. GǪand yet, that's exactly what the regular Jita inhabitant does every Sunday. And the response is the same: If people can't get in, they can go elsewhere or just use those fancy skills they've trained. vOv Quote:That's not the issue. Jita being full isn't much of an issue to begin with. What does that even mean? Do people regularly log in hundreds of alts in Jita so that other people can't get in? Or are you saying several hundred individuals who all happen to be in Jita at the same time are equally responsible for causing the gates to be locked down as a mere handful of people who log in hundreds of alts for the express purpose of doing so? Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |

Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
800
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Posted - 2013.03.07 00:57:00 -
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by the way I'm logged into jita and I see no evidence of any placeholder alts so I'm going to assume op is a pubbie altcorp member who should be commissared Reading the EVEO forums is like huffing gas or sniffing glue. Sure it's funny and you get high, but you pay a terrible, terrible price in the long run. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3515
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Posted - 2013.03.07 00:57:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Tippia wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Blockading with normal game mechanics is fine. Blockading by taking advantage of server limitations is not. GǪand yet, that's exactly what the regular Jita inhabitant does every Sunday. And the response is the same: If people can't get in, they can go elsewhere or just use those fancy skills they've trained. vOv Quote:That's not the issue. Jita being full isn't much of an issue to begin with. What does that even mean? Do people regularly log in hundreds of alts in Jita so that other people can't get in? Or are you saying several hundred individuals who all happen to be in Jita at the same time are equally responsible for causing the gates to be locked down as a mere handful of people who log in hundreds of alts for the express purpose of doing so? Have you heard of the VCbees? These are like JitaStationbees I am a nullsec zealot. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3515
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Posted - 2013.03.07 00:58:00 -
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Mara Tessidar wrote:by the way I'm logged into jita and I see no evidence of any placeholder alts so I'm going to assume op is a pubbie altcorp member who should be commissared One sec, let me log in to verify these claims... I am a nullsec zealot. |

Stegas Tyrano
GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy
244
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Posted - 2013.03.07 00:58:00 -
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Guys! I think they're doing something good!
If they grief Jita-goers enough it might encourage them to use the (miriad) other trade hubs dotted around New Eden. [PROPOSAL] INGAME ADVERTS FOR PLAYERS |

Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
800
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Posted - 2013.03.07 00:58:00 -
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which is really unfortunate because all you peasants are getting your knickers in a twist already and frankly it's a cheap and enjoyable source of entertainment
this may explain much of why goons do what they do to you Reading the EVEO forums is like huffing gas or sniffing glue. Sure it's funny and you get high, but you pay a terrible, terrible price in the long run. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2600
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Posted - 2013.03.07 00:58:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Tippia wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:If Goons (or anyone) are blocking access to Jita deliberately merely by having a bunch of characters in system, then yeah I'd call that an inappropriate use of the server. Oh I don't know. A good old blockade of a trading port sounds like a hell of a lot more appropriate use of the server than what the regular Jita resident does with (and to) itGǪ  Blockading with normal game mechanics is fine. Blockading by taking advantage of server limitations is not. If they were doing a blockade with real characters with real ships, undocked and hanging at the gates, such as a blockade actually would, sure. People then can attack the blockade & pod them using game mechanics. Sitting in station with specially created alts just to hit Jita's server cap however.... I've got to agree thats an exploit done purely to harrass & grief people.
We're helping CCP discover the absolute limit of Jita's capacity. We can't even do a good thing for the community with out people claiming we're just griefing. Shame on you. Apparently booking your flight & accomodation to Iceland BEFORE you buy the tickets for the convention which is pretty much the only reason you wanted to go there in the first place is popular. |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
4731
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Posted - 2013.03.07 00:59:00 -
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Logging in to the game is now griefing 
Just when I thought the complaints couldn't get anymore pathetic. GD surprises again by reaching another new low. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4146
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Posted - 2013.03.07 00:59:00 -
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Mara Tessidar wrote:by the way I'm logged into jita and I see no evidence of any placeholder alts so I'm going to assume op is a pubbie altcorp member who should be commissared I'm assuming OP is trolling, but I'm arguing the hypothetical here. Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2600
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Posted - 2013.03.07 01:00:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Tippia wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Blockading with normal game mechanics is fine. Blockading by taking advantage of server limitations is not. GǪand yet, that's exactly what the regular Jita inhabitant does every Sunday. And the response is the same: If people can't get in, they can go elsewhere or just use those fancy skills they've trained. vOv Quote:That's not the issue. Jita being full isn't much of an issue to begin with. What does that even mean? Do people regularly log in hundreds of alts in Jita so that other people can't get in? Or are you saying several hundred individuals who all happen to be in Jita at the same time are equally responsible for causing the gates to be locked down as a mere handful of people who log in hundreds of alts for the express purpose of doing so?
Reset RAZOR Apparently booking your flight & accomodation to Iceland BEFORE you buy the tickets for the convention which is pretty much the only reason you wanted to go there in the first place is popular. |

Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
800
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Posted - 2013.03.07 01:01:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Mara Tessidar wrote:by the way I'm logged into jita and I see no evidence of any placeholder alts so I'm going to assume op is a pubbie altcorp member who should be commissared I'm assuming OP is trolling, but I'm arguing the hypothetical here.
hypothetically you should stop posting Reading the EVEO forums is like huffing gas or sniffing glue. Sure it's funny and you get high, but you pay a terrible, terrible price in the long run. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3515
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Posted - 2013.03.07 01:01:00 -
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Oh great, someone dumped a TON of this stuff to my buy order, I wonder if it's crashing :ohdear:
I'll have to watch this market very carefully. I am a nullsec zealot. |

baltec1
Bat Country
5512
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Posted - 2013.03.07 01:02:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote: If they were doing a blockade with real characters with real ships, undocked and hanging at the gates, such as a blockade actually would, sure. People then can attack the blockade & pod them using game mechanics. Sitting in station with specially created alts just to hit Jita's server cap however.... I've got to agree thats an exploit done purely to harrass & grief people.
So you are saying the high sec mechanics are bad and we need more ways to engage other people? |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4146
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Posted - 2013.03.07 01:03:00 -
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Mara Tessidar wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Mara Tessidar wrote:by the way I'm logged into jita and I see no evidence of any placeholder alts so I'm going to assume op is a pubbie altcorp member who should be commissared I'm assuming OP is trolling, but I'm arguing the hypothetical here. hypothetically you should stop posting I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. Honestly! Please accept my most sincere apologies. Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |

Needmore Longcat
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
14
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Posted - 2013.03.07 01:07:00 -
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I logged my jita alt in, hoping and praying that this was true. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3515
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Posted - 2013.03.07 01:12:00 -
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Needmore Longcat wrote:I logged my jita alt in, hoping and praying that this was true. I got in and started updating & making sell orders. I'll 0.01isk everyone and sell this stuff while others are unable to get in and 0.01isk me.
Thanks, GEWNS ! I am a nullsec zealot. |

Calathorn Virpio
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
9
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Posted - 2013.03.07 01:18:00 -
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Garr Khan wrote:It took me about 4 minutes of clicking my character and then pressing escape to successfully log in to my Jita character, and I noticed in Local about 300 Goonwaffe characters named variations of "Goon seatwarmer 1" (or similar). Is this kind of activity allowed? Seems like blatant griefing that adds nothing to the E.v.e. experience...
note his allaince....
in before ISD lock |

4runner
Eternal Profiteers Eternal Syndicate
26
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Posted - 2013.03.07 01:24:00 -
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Man this is funny as hell haha
People just move to another hubs rather than raging on the forums about jita beeing full.
its like having two roads to the supermarket and picking the one that is congested rather than the empty one
GO GOONS !!! |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13104
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Posted - 2013.03.07 01:28:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:If they were doing a blockade with real characters with real ships, undocked and hanging at the gates, such as a blockade actually would, sure. People then can attack the blockade & pod them using game mechanics. Unfortunately, the game mechanics don't allow that kind of blockade. They do, however, allow for this kind so it's as good as it gets.
Quote:Sitting in station with specially created alts just to hit Jita's server cap however.... I've got to agree thats an exploit done purely to harrass & grief people. LMAO No. Did you really just type that?!  How is anyone in any way harassed or griefed by not being able to get into Jita?!
James Amril-Kesh wrote:What does that even mean? Do people regularly log in hundreds of alts in Jita so that other people can't get in? Pretty much, yes. On your average Sunday, I'd say that the vast majority of Jita GÇö several hundreds GÇö are just alts, and they're keeping people from getting in. Doing it on purpose to get people to take their business elsewhere is just clever. Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
4146
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Posted - 2013.03.07 01:31:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:If they were doing a blockade with real characters with real ships, undocked and hanging at the gates, such as a blockade actually would, sure. People then can attack the blockade & pod them using game mechanics. Unfortunately, the game mechanics don't allow that kind of blockade. They do, however, allow for this kind so it's as good as it gets. Fair enough. Malcanis for CSM 8 Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |

Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
1752
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Posted - 2013.03.07 01:32:00 -
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Garr Khan wrote:It took me about 4 minutes of clicking my character and then pressing escape to successfully log in to my Jita character, and I noticed in Local about 300 Goonwaffe characters named variations of "Goon seatwarmer 1" (or similar). Is this kind of activity allowed? Seems like blatant griefing that adds nothing to the E.v.e. experience... Maybe they are in Jita as that is where they need to get all their manufactured goods as Null industry sucks so much. We all thought CSM 6 was a war crime with it's massive Null Presence CSM7 topped it by selling out our Council to CCP, don't let it happen again. Vote or next time Incarna is your fault Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 |

EI Digin
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
580
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Posted - 2013.03.07 01:35:00 -
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Jita is such a nice place to hang out. There's nothing more relaxing than watching local chat scroll by.
Don't hate on other players preferred form of gameplay. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3516
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Posted - 2013.03.07 01:36:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Garr Khan wrote:It took me about 4 minutes of clicking my character and then pressing escape to successfully log in to my Jita character, and I noticed in Local about 300 Goonwaffe characters named variations of "Goon seatwarmer 1" (or similar). Is this kind of activity allowed? Seems like blatant griefing that adds nothing to the E.v.e. experience... Maybe they are in Jita as that is where they need to get all their manufactured goods as Null industry sucks so much. It is, sorry I have to 0.01isk people on 1400mm Howitzer Artillery IIs and 425mm Railgun IIs for Techfleet and/or Alphafleet. I am a nullsec zealot. |

Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
474
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Posted - 2013.03.07 01:41:00 -
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Do the goons think this will make trade hubs magically appear in null?
Sounds like the annual goon desparate cry for attention is in effect. This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Cavel Avada
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2013.03.07 01:44:00 -
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Has anyone even consider the fact that, say a player who only has 1 toon logs out in Jita after popping in to buy/sell something.. now can't log onto their toon and thus can't play the game at all? A game which they're paying for?
Usually Goons skim the line of taste with their antics, but possibly depriving players of playing the game at all I think is crossing a line. |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2038

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Posted - 2013.03.07 01:45:00 -
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Quote:31. Rumor mongering is prohibited.
Rumor threads and posts which are based off no actual solid information and are designed to either troll or annoy other users will be locked and removed. These kinds of threads and posts are detrimental to the wellbeing and spirit of the EVE Online Community, and can create undue panic among forum users, as well as adding to the workload of our moderators.
Quote:5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
Thread locked. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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