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Cebraio
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.07 14:39:00 -
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Tub Chil wrote:didn't read the wall of text but margin trading is a flawed feature and needs to go.
Didn't read the wall of text, but greed is a flawed attribute and needs to go. |
Cebraio
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.07 17:03:00 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
A couple points to add to the discussion:
1.) CCP's market tutorial (if there even is one) should explain that buy orders are NOT guaranteed.... This information should not be some secret learned only upon the loss of goods.
2.) The Market should NEVER automatically create a sell order from a failed buy order.... This auto-create a sell order is a TERRIBLE mechanic, and should be removed.
If CCP can manage to do points 1 & 2 above, then margin trade scams are 100% inline with the ambiance of EvE.... I think negating them, especially point 1, is failing on CCP's part.
PS: sometimes you can petition the "sell order" that was created to get your broker fees back... but it's not a guarantee...
1.) They do not lose goods, they just can't sell them at the price they had expected. (I agree it could be advertised more clearly that buy orders are not guaranteed.)
2.) There is no sell order created automatically by a failed buy order. The seller may get the option to create one and then he may create a sell order, if he is too busy pushing buttons and doesn't read. That's again his fault if it happens. Rushing trades is never a good idea.
Here is margin trading scam explained. For the scammer it works without part 2:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=18942 |
Cebraio
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
265
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:38:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:CCP could destroy margin trading scams in one day with just a few lines of code... if they wanted to.
How? You know how when people get busted cheating CCP will knock their ISK account into the negative and force them to work their way back out of the hole?
Allow the same thing to happen when people don't actually have the ISK to cover a margin trade. Their ISK balance is now negative. Have fun getting out of the hole. Oh, and you biomass your toon then the bill gets passed to the next one on the account.
Problem solved. Very easy. If they wanted to.
Sad reality, though, they don't want to. Welcome to Sociopaths Online.
I use the margin trading skill on my trade alt for obvious reasons (not scamming). It's quite possible that I don't have enough isk for all open orders, if multiple buy orders get filled on the same day. No thank you, I don't want to be treated like a RMT guy, when I just play the market. Your idea is terrible. |
Cebraio
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.03.08 16:54:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:What's a Margin Trading Scam?
I googled it for you:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=18942 |
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