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Graygor
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Posted - 2013.03.08 02:34:00 -
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I was really looking forwards to a new sim city. I've loved the series since the original Sim City back on the Amiga 500. (Yeah! Amiga!)
But i knew, deep down, that it would be tainted by EA and DRM and issues gallore... So I held off buying it. But hey, I got Sim City 4 on steam at christmas for $4.99 + expansion pack and it runs just fine.
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peacebee
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Posted - 2013.03.08 02:34:00 -
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What is happening to our games? Its getting to the point i look at older games for a new thrill before looking at new ones.
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Graygor
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Posted - 2013.03.08 02:41:00 -
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peacebee wrote:What is happening to our games? Its getting to the point i look at older games for a new thrill before looking at new ones.
Games stopped being made for love / passion and a nice profit that allowed you to do what you love. To being all about money. I think this happened around 2001. 
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.08 02:42:00 -
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peacebee wrote:What is happening to our games? Its getting to the point i look at older games for a new thrill before looking at new ones.
Sim City 4 still rocks.
Why can we not simply walk into Sim City 5 ?
edit: (I'm putting Sim City: Societies/Destinations into another category altogether......)
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.-á-á-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |
peacebee
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Posted - 2013.03.08 02:45:00 -
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Graygor wrote:peacebee wrote:What is happening to our games? Its getting to the point i look at older games for a new thrill before looking at new ones.
Games stopped being made for love / passion and a nice profit that allowed you to do what you love. To being all about money. I think this happened around 2001.
About the time EA Killed bullfrog? |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
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Posted - 2013.03.08 02:45:00 -
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Graygor wrote:peacebee wrote:What is happening to our games? Its getting to the point i look at older games for a new thrill before looking at new ones.
Games stopped being made for love / passion and a nice profit that allowed you to do what you love. To being all about money. I think this happened around 2001.
I'm seeing some potential for this year... I'm sure "Outlast" will be awesome. Looks like a developer I've never heard of (so it's not EA) and it will be PC exclusive at first 
Also it looks like they might have gotten survival-horror right, but I won't claim this lest this be Colonial Marines 2
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Graygor
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Posted - 2013.03.08 02:49:00 -
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peacebee wrote:Graygor wrote:peacebee wrote:What is happening to our games? Its getting to the point i look at older games for a new thrill before looking at new ones.
Games stopped being made for love / passion and a nice profit that allowed you to do what you love. To being all about money. I think this happened around 2001. About the time EA Killed bullfrog?
Pretty much.
Big publishers are a bane to games producers and gamers if you ask me. Bioware went downhill after it got bought out, same with Bullfrog, Maxis (as is now) is just like "Atari", its a name that bears no semblance to the original.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.08 02:50:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I'm seeing some potential for this year... I'm sure "Outlast" will be awesome.
It LOOKS great...
...but even I am getting tired of green-tinted hand-held horror-based camera work (that's a LOT of hyphens !),
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.08 02:51:00 -
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Graygor wrote:
Big publishers are a bane to games producers and gamers if you ask me. Bioware went downhill after it got bought out, same with Bullfrog, Maxis (as is now) is just like "Atari", its a name that bears no semblance to the original.
I think....(think)....the Venture Capitalists who invest in these thing believe they are most indeed just 'games' and they can do 'whatever'. That nothing about them is to be taken seriously at all.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.-á-á-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |
Graygor
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Posted - 2013.03.08 02:52:00 -
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The only game that is exciting me atm is Bioshock Infinite... as I love all things steam punk.
Oh and Cyberpunk 2077 but that isnt going to be out for ages.
Honestly I agree with you Krix, why the hell does a single player game require internet connection?
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:00:00 -
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Graygor wrote:
Honestly I agree with you Krix, why the hell does a single player game require internet connection?
This, Most Indeed, had my eyes bugging out 3 years ago when announced. The feedback was terrible.....
...and they did it anyway.
May they live with it in infamy.
EDIT: I will never, EVER purchase it now just on principle. I'm old enough to do that now and so are you.
This Industry needs to learn a hard lesson.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.-á-á-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:00:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I'm seeing some potential for this year... I'm sure "Outlast" will be awesome. It LOOKS great... ...but even I am getting tired of green-tinted hand-held horror-based camera work (that's a LOT of hyphens !),
Then go try to play sim city 
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:04:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I'm seeing some potential for this year... I'm sure "Outlast" will be awesome. It LOOKS great... ...but even I am getting tired of green-tinted hand-held horror-based camera work (that's a LOT of hyphens !), Then go try to play sim city
Well, you apparently have to reach in and grab and eat the still beating heart of a Dev to log on..........
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.-á-á-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |
Graygor
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:06:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I'm seeing some potential for this year... I'm sure "Outlast" will be awesome. It LOOKS great... ...but even I am getting tired of green-tinted hand-held horror-based camera work (that's a LOT of hyphens !), Then go try to play sim city Well, you apparently have to reach in and grab and eat the still beating heart of a Dev to log on..........
Hmm.... i wonder if this would improve productivity at CCP?
Release meaningful WIS and POS upgrade or we eat your hearts!
But we're nice so we'll let you choose, tobasco or BBQ sauce?
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:08:00 -
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Graygor wrote:
But we're nice so we'll let you choose, tobasco or BBQ sauce?
...only if it is Lime/Chipotle.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.-á-á-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |
peacebee
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:27:00 -
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Kingdom Under Fire II is the only game i will even think of taking a chance on, because i loved the first.
But the fact i loved the first means i should fear this more then some random IP.... |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:30:00 -
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Argh!..to it all.
Time to absolutely MELT everyone with a fierce weapon: https://twitter.com/Kennygoing2Mars/status/275151671619903488/photo/1
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.-á-á-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde - 1870's |
Mark Munoz
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:42:00 -
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Yeah this DRM stuff is out of control. The unfortunate part is everyone says vote with your wallets, and while I will typically agree and say the same that just can't be done in the gaming industry. Most anything worth spending hard earned dollars on is published by a a mammoth corporation like EA. They only publish games using this business model this will not change no matter how FUBAR'd a launch goes. Why is that you ask? Because they know damn well that no matter how big of a **** storm happens the first few days the gamers will just buy it anyway because there is no other option for the entertainment. Now don't get me wrong there are plenty of games that are awesome fun that don't have these issues. I like to think of it like the rides at Six Flags. While sure you can have tons of fun and wait in almost no lines for the older smaller roller coasters, for the most entertaining experience however you will need to wait HOURS. People do as well because it is that level of extreme that they have never experienced before.
DRM practices like this are not going away no matter how much we *****, these blockbuster titles will still sell by the millions just for the cutting edge experiences they provide.
Once a developer/publisher start picking up notoriety and breaking the norm these publishers will do what they do best, squash the competition by buying them out.
The one thing I will say about this experience with SimCity however is this game brings people from ALL walks of life. It may just get the critical mass it deserves for the world at large to take notice of these shady business practices. Then again to what end. It is not like a court is going to rule you need to make a game single player, etc. The best we can hope for are penalties and consumer protections to take place as result.
I will say though I haven't really played many "Online" games other than EVE and I have been lately, the more and more that I play the more that I appreciate CCP's approach with EVE. IMO it is the only one that makes sense. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:49:00 -
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Mark Munoz wrote:Yeah this DRM stuff is out of control. The unfortunate part is everyone says vote with your wallets, and while I will typically agree and say the same that just can't be done in the gaming industry. Most anything worth spending hard earned dollars on is published by a a mammoth corporation like EA. They only publish games using this business model this will not change no matter how FUBAR'd a launch goes. Why is that you ask? Because they know damn well that no matter how big of a **** storm happens the first few days the gamers will just buy it anyway because there is no other option for the entertainment. Now don't get me wrong there are plenty of games that are awesome fun that don't have these issues. I like to think of it like the rides at Six Flags. While sure you can have tons of fun and wait in almost no lines for the older smaller roller coasters, for the most entertaining experience however you will need to wait HOURS. People do as well because it is that level of extreme that they have never experienced before.
DRM practices like this are not going away no matter how much we *****, these blockbuster titles will still sell by the millions just for the cutting edge experiences they provide.
Once a developer/publisher start picking up notoriety and breaking the norm these publishers will do what they do best, squash the competition by buying them out.
The one thing I will say about this experience with SimCity however is this game brings people from ALL walks of life. It may just get the critical mass it deserves for the world at large to take notice of these shady business practices. Then again to what end. It is not like a court is going to rule you need to make a game single player, etc. The best we can hope for are penalties and consumer protections to take place as result.
I will say though I haven't really played many "Online" games other than EVE and I have been lately, the more and more that I play the more that I appreciate CCP's approach with EVE. IMO it is the only one that makes sense.
Yes.
Even my parents who are now over 85 appreciated Sim City when they were ~65.
This has been a really disappointing experience for them, and a demonstration of what can happen with any online endeavor, NOT JUST GAMES.
Again, EA is now losing all future cash from myself, I promise.
I hope other s join in this pact.
Comparatively, CCP Rocks !
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.08 03:59:00 -
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Graygor wrote:
Release meaningful WIS and POS upgrade or we eat your hearts?
There is no telling at all about the Vikings ! 
edit: And I thought we had them by the HORNS ?!?!
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Graygor
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Posted - 2013.03.08 04:11:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Graygor wrote:
Release meaningful WIS and POS upgrade or we eat your hearts?
There is no telling at all about the Vikings ! edit: And I thought we had them by the HORNS ?!?!
Theyre vikings. Their horns have horns!
We just cant have them by enough horns. Its like a horn hydra! 
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2013.03.08 04:12:00 -
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Graygor wrote:Theyre vikings. Their horns have horns!
...just like Michael Bay's Lens Flares have Lens Flares ?
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Jonah Gravenstein
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Posted - 2013.03.08 05:29:00 -
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I give it a month max before an "unofficial" version with all the DRM stripped out appears on various websites that are supposedly blocked by ISPs, no matter what the big companies do there's always somebody clever enough to circumvent any DRM, and who's willing to share.
Eve in a nutshell, it's you vs the universe, and every machiavellian space bastard in it. |
Graygor
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Posted - 2013.03.08 06:06:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Graygor wrote:Theyre vikings. Their horns have horns! ...just like Michael Bay's Lens Flares have Lens Flares ?
I thought it was Abrams who was guilty of that?
And Jonah its evolution!
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Posted - 2013.03.08 07:16:00 -
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Graygor wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Graygor wrote:Theyre vikings. Their horns have horns! ...just like Michael Bay's Lens Flares have Lens Flares ? I thought it was Abrams who was guilty of that? And Jonah its evolution!
Lens flair is Abrams. Michael Bay does Baysplosions.
As for sim city, its now dead. Long live Cities XL |
Graygor
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Posted - 2013.03.08 07:19:00 -
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Is cities XL any good? I was tempted to buy it on steam but wondered about it.
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Alice Saki
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Posted - 2013.03.08 08:29:00 -
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I'm really annoyed that lots of game nowadays HAVE to be online to play... Even for Single player mode. WHY?!
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Graygor
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Posted - 2013.03.08 08:39:00 -
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Because bean counters and their investors dont play video games. If golf had DRM there would be uproar.
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Sidus Isaacs
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Posted - 2013.03.08 11:32:00 -
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lol EA... what did people expect?
Graygor wrote:Is cities XL any good? I was tempted to buy it on steam but wondered about it.
Imo, no, it was a poor imitation of sim city last time I tired it a couple of years ago. |
baltec1
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Posted - 2013.03.08 11:32:00 -
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Graygor wrote:Is cities XL any good? I was tempted to buy it on steam but wondered about it.
Its a great game and fans of sim city 4 will love it. The only drawback is a lack of disastors. |
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