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Roime
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Posted - 2013.03.08 07:21:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:Someone shoot me, I'm on the same side of an argument as Krixtal Icefluxor.
Sad but true! 
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Roime
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Posted - 2013.03.08 11:20:00 -
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Whether or not you use the skills you have trained out of your free will doesn't make a cause for reimbursement. It's your own personal choice not to mine even after training for a mining ship.
I trained Orca to haul stuff and ships for pvp, and close wormholes. I dealt with the annoying barge V by buying a rettie from a friend, and mining enough ore to pay for the Orca. And I still have the skills to mine whenever I feel like it. Granted, that's not very often :D, but CCP is not responsible for my gameplay preferences.
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Roime
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Posted - 2013.03.08 11:21:00 -
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Whether or not you use the skills you have trained out of your free will doesn't make a cause for reimbursement. It's your own personal choice not to mine even after training for a mining ship.
I trained Orca to haul stuff and ships for pvp, and close wormholes. I dealt with the annoying barge V by buying a rettie from a friend, and mining enough ore to pay for the Orca. And I still have the skills to mine whenever I feel like it. Granted, thatoften, but CCP is not responsible for my gameplay preferences.
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Roime
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Posted - 2013.03.08 11:23:00 -
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No need to fix these forums. Working as intended.
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Roime
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Posted - 2013.03.08 23:25:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Roime wrote:Whether or not you use the skills you have trained out of your free will doesn't make a cause for reimbursement. It's your own personal choice not to mine even after training for a mining ship. True. Only is CCP going to change it, because CCP thinks these skill choices are unnecessary.Many players knew about the lack of necessity, but accepted it as a part of the requirement for getting into an Orca, or else could they not have gotten into it. There was simply no choice for them. The reason for why a reimbursement should be given is not just because a few players want it, this sure will always be the case when skills change, but because CCP is making this change and it invalidates players' skill choices of the past. I am sure many Orca pilots will have trained Exhumers I in addition just to profit from this in their own way. These players should not get a reimbursement as they not only accepted it but used it for further training. Only those who did not should be allowed to reallocate some of their skill points. It is likely a very small group of people and also the reason why the discussion on this is largely biased, because most of who post here will not be part of this group.
The bolded part does make sense, I didn't think of it that way- it would appear that CCP sees the barge V as redundant.
Still it is quite impossible to decide who has benefited from training the barge V (from those who haven't trained exhumers), and probably that's why CCP made the choice of not reimbursing anyone.
I don't agree with the entitled attitudes, "I was forced to train something I didn't want" is really just bullshit. If having barge V really bugs people that much, then why train it. Get a friend with an Orca and save a whole month of training.
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Roime
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Posted - 2013.03.09 11:48:00 -
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Asmodai Xodai wrote:
It's obvious. I wasted a lot of time and SP because of a decision by CCP to change the tech tree. That time and SP could have gone into something else. I could have been into battleships. I could have trained up market trading or whatever. There are lots of things I could have done. The SP was flushed down the toilet.
If I had known that CCP was going to do this, I would never have started training Orca. I would have waited until after they changed the tech tree, and then trained Orca.
If you want the answer to why that makes me unhappy, go into your skill queue and stop all training right now. Leave it paused for a month. Then see how happy or unhappy you are after that month. Then you will have your answer.
You still don't seem to understand the difference between objectively useless SP/no SP and you personally just not liking the skill.
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Roime
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Posted - 2013.03.09 12:40:00 -
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Asmodai Xodai wrote:
You don't seem to understand the difference between CCP mandating that some pay significantly more SP for things than others.
Significantly? You mean like future navy frig pilots needing 8 times less SP to fly them? Totally reimburse. Or battleship pilots needing twice as little training in the future.
I also want free SP because I need to train useless skills to fly caps in the future.
Really mate, these decisions are not, and will not be based on what you perceive as useless.
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