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SageOfMystery
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Posted - 2005.08.17 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu
Originally by: Zandramus Now this is pure speculation, But I do remember Rome guys telling me they were under contract on Norad, they didnt say by who but its pretty obvious that the contract payer was FA.
I'll have to go find my killmails from that time frame (I think they're lost), but I'm pretty sure that I lost two battleships to Rome guys taking pot shots at newbies that couldn't keep up with the fleet. (yes, I was a newbie back in december - 0.0 pvp wise anyways)
Your fleets let members fall behind?
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Koth Krakenworth
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Posted - 2005.08.17 22:32:00 -
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Quote: Yeah, it's just a shame that he quotes a line referring to one 'war' and then goes and write a reply concerning another.
That's why we lub him, being able to put togheter arugments that couldn't match a 5-year olds in a way that's nothing else but charming 
"It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes."
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2005.08.18 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: SageOfMystery Your fleets let members fall behind?
Not really. More accurately as I recall that was my newbness in trying to catch up the fleet.
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La'nugos
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Posted - 2005.08.18 03:57:00 -
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Yeah peopel you heard it. I never actualy did lose 3-4bs fighting imperium when they invaded NORAD its all a Conspiracy!
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Threx
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Posted - 2005.08.18 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Zandramus Edited by: Zandramus on 17/08/2005 10:38:53
Originally by: nitr0s
Originally by: General Killah
Originally by: Awalance A few FA ex-corp are flyng with SMASH now in Vale, Xanadu are also there
Few?
*does a mental count*
Nope, only XAN.
You guys and Xanadu seem to have a cozy relationship. I wonder was that formed before or after you attacked Stain?
If Stain didnt know this already then they are more clueless that I thought... FA paid SMASH to harrass STAIN all the time that they were there.
and ffs use your main
God damnit where was i when we were getting paid
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Threx
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Posted - 2005.08.18 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Zandramus
Originally by: Coug
Originally by: Zandramus Edited by: Zandramus on 17/08/2005 12:40:35
Originally by: pshepherd
Originally by: Zandramus
If Stain didnt know this already then they are more clueless that I thought... FA paid SMASH to harrass STAIN all the time that they were there.
well duh...
Whats more interesting though is that SMASH was harrassing NORAD who was supposed to be FA's Ally and Meat Shield before SMASH came to Stain space. Kind of explains why FA didnt help out when Imperium walked all over NORAD.
will be nice to see Imperium get it handed to them from BOB
Where did all the Xan ships go to , as soon as the war dec went through they all vanished...
Er, no. The FA -> SMASH connection was TSBH. SMASH didn't exist till well after NORAD fell, and FA didn't know and or care about SMASH back then.
Also, FA DID help out NORAD with quite a few fleets, but it was a lost cause (And we knew it from the beginning). Us helping out NORAD was one of the few things I'm proud about FA - that we did hold up to our end of the bargin. It was pointless, and couldn't stop them, but we did help.
*all "we" references is not because I'm in FA, but I was in FA at the time... and changing all those references is a pain in the butt hehe.
Yes your right SMASH didnt exist till then , but Rome, and Unknown Shoe had their thing going against Norad in Outer Ring this would have been last November. I know this because We had a war with Norad at the time and I ran into them there.
Rome, Unknown Shoe moved into Stain shortly after Imperium wooped up on Norad, I assumed at the time that Imperium had sent them packing, but looking back on it with one contract out of the way Norad, they were free to start on another Stain. TSBH and Burn Eden following them about a month later and helping them out. All of these corps working for FA at the time.
What suprised me was that B-E didnt join the SMASH alliance with the rest of them when it was formed rather they moved into Curse and started attacking the corps that moved down there.
Now this is pure speculation, But I do remember Rome guys telling me they were under contract on Norad, they didnt say by who but its pretty obvious that the contract payer was FA.
Once agian where was I when we got this contract damn apparantly playing every days isnt enough to keep up on news
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Ranger 1
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Posted - 2005.08.18 13:40:00 -
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Obviously, that contract was issued the very same day that the Fountain Alliance Star base Syndicate [FA-SS] was first discussed.
(I really have no idea where you people come up with this stuff, but it IS very entertaining to read).
That's not a moon... that's my POS
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TomPeK
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Posted - 2005.08.18 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Zandramus Edited by: Zandramus on 17/08/2005 12:40:35
Originally by: pshepherd
Originally by: Zandramus
If Stain didnt know this already then they are more clueless that I thought... FA paid SMASH to harrass STAIN all the time that they were there.
well duh...
Whats more interesting though is that SMASH was harrassing NORAD who was supposed to be FA's Ally and Meat Shield before SMASH came to Stain space. Kind of explains why FA didnt help out when Imperium walked all over NORAD.
will be nice to see Imperium get it handed to them from BOB
Where did all the Xan ships go to , as soon as the war dec went through they all vanished...
Ive seen all the Xan ships hiding in your backyard 
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Ku'Gras
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Posted - 2005.08.18 14:04:00 -
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Edited by: Ku''Gras on 18/08/2005 14:06:15 Edited by: Ku''Gras on 18/08/2005 14:05:18 Edited by: Ku''Gras on 18/08/2005 14:04:38 Makes some sense that the corps who still get along together forms a new alliance so no surprises here if the thread starter is right.
In my view a "new start" includes going to a new location forging new relationships (perhaps with an eye toward getting back at old enemies like BoB sometime in the future) but I wouldn't recommend starting up with trying to retake the same region you lost. Anyhow not my call so guess it's a GL to them.
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.08.18 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ku'Gras
Makes some sense that the corps who still get along together forms a new alliance so no surprises here if the thread starter is right.
In my view a "new start" includes going to a new location forging new relationships (perhaps with an eye toward getting back at old enemies like BoB sometime in the future) but I wouldn't recommend starting up with trying to retake the same region you lost. Anyhow not my call so guess it's a GL to them.
Yup looks like the some of the FA corps Xan and 4S are going to lick their wounds and try to regroup in the Vale of the Silent region along with SMASH alliance. Which is cool more targets for us to shoot close by.
Zandramus
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KOTH Fluf
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Posted - 2005.08.18 16:20:00 -
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Couple of points of interest here. Elite Academy has never left the Fountain Region and has no intentions of doing so at this time. ELA moved out of the core of FA 6 months ago and settled the D4KU/Tarus Constelation and we like the region and dont intend to leave anytime soon.
And I was a FA chairman along with Ranger 1 during the last few months of FA, and we have never paid anyone by contract to fight our enemies. We did honor our treaty with Norad at the time Imperium came in to Outer Ring and fought quite a few good battles with them lead by Coug.
We will continue our fight vs BOB/Xelas and all the other invaders that seek to try to dominate the Fountain Region. Plenty of targets!  Fluf CEO Elite Academy |

The Hooch
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Posted - 2005.08.18 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ku'Gras Edited by: Ku''Gras on 18/08/2005 14:06:15 Edited by: Ku''Gras on 18/08/2005 14:05:18 Edited by: Ku''Gras on 18/08/2005 14:04:38 Makes some sense that the corps who still get along together forms a new alliance so no surprises here if the thread starter is right.
In my view a "new start" includes going to a new location forging new relationships (perhaps with an eye toward getting back at old enemies like BoB sometime in the future) but I wouldn't recommend starting up with trying to retake the same region you lost. Anyhow not my call so guess it's a GL to them.
Why bother to move to an new location? BloB are like locust, they plague everyplace at one time or another. Might as well stay here and fight the enemy we know.
Please keep your recommendations to yourself, BloB is not un-beatable, FA was the big boy once as well you know. Your leaders are no smarter than the FA leaders were, your time is now, enjoy it because it does not last. Even now there are postings of how Blob must die, it began that way for FA 8 months ago.
Curse thought its' self beyond defeat as well, all BloB did to FA was kick down the hollow shell that was left, NOTHING more than that.
Your victory was shallow at its' best. At least The FIVE took on a worthy opponent in a stand up fight. BloB, all you did was chase some miners away from core. Imperium and Iron have slapped you stooooopid in the last three weeks. Your weakness' is beginning to leak out. I will enjoy watching BloB self implode...justice comes to us all.

But please stay arrogant about yourselves, of how uber you are and how no-one can beat you and never will. Please beat your chest and crow like the***** of the walk. Don't listen to anyone about anything..."pride comith before a fall". Works like a charm.
Cheers Hooch
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Sochin
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Posted - 2005.08.18 18:33:00 -
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Edited by: Sochin on 18/08/2005 18:33:34
Originally by: The Hooch
Originally by: Ku'Gras Edited by: Ku''Gras on 18/08/2005 14:06:15 Edited by: Ku''Gras on 18/08/2005 14:05:18 Edited by: Ku''Gras on 18/08/2005 14:04:38 Makes some sense that the corps who still get along together forms a new alliance so no surprises here if the thread starter is right.
In my view a "new start" includes going to a new location forging new relationships (perhaps with an eye toward getting back at old enemies like BoB sometime in the future) but I wouldn't recommend starting up with trying to retake the same region you lost. Anyhow not my call so guess it's a GL to them.
Why bother to move to an new location? BloB are like locust, they plague everyplace at one time or another. Might as well stay here and fight the enemy we know.
Please keep your recommendations to yourself, BloB is not un-beatable, FA was the big boy once as well you know. Your leaders are no smarter than the FA leaders were, your time is now, enjoy it because it does not last. Even now there are postings of how Blob must die, it began that way for FA 8 months ago.
Curse thought its' self beyond defeat as well, all BloB did to FA was kick down the hollow shell that was left, NOTHING more than that.
Your victory was shallow at its' best. At least The FIVE took on a worthy opponent in a stand up fight. BloB, all you did was chase some miners away from core. Imperium and Iron have slapped you stooooopid in the last three weeks. Your weakness' is beginning to leak out. I will enjoy watching BloB self implode...justice comes to us all.

But please stay arrogant about yourselves, of how uber you are and how no-one can beat you and never will. Please beat your chest and crow like the***** of the walk. Don't listen to anyone about anything..."pride comith before a fall". Works like a charm.
Cheers Hooch
Spoken like a true idiot. Not only is your "clever" nickname of BloB inaccurate (We've been fighting outnumbered the last couple weeks) but you've managed to demonstrate a remarkable lack of comphrehension of the situation.
Most of these alliances that "implode" do so because they grew to much. They took on to much dead weight and the internal squabbles and doubledealing did them in. BoB consists of 4 corporations, of which is a logistics corp. We all get along grandly because we all have the exact same priorities in EVE. There is no "miners vs. pvpers" debates in BoB, as there was in CA. I'd go as far to say that BoB is the healthiest alliance in the game in this sense. While it always remains a possibility that BoB may be defeated in certain campaigns, self-destruction isn't a very likely scenario.
Also please note that no BoB members are on the forums posting "HAHA WE KILLED FOUNTAIN THEY WERE SO UBER AND WE BEATED THEM UP!!!!". We're aware that Fountain was unstable when we attacked, and they weren't what they used to be.
As for Imperium "slapping us stooopid" we're doing fine considering we're outnumbered 3:1 or more every day in 4c. I think it's amusing that although Imperium is already much larger an organization then BoB they immediately ran to G for help as soon as we setup a POS in their home system. Please don't consider this complaining about being outnumbered however, guerilla warfare can be quite entertaining.
Nemo me impune lacessit
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The Hooch
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Posted - 2005.08.18 19:44:00 -
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Calling me an idiot was un-called for, however do it as it pleases you to do so. You only prove my point concerning your idea of yourselves.
Quote: BoB consists of 4 corporations
...That you formally admit to is the missing comment here. Your lap dogs in FA core right are as much a part of your "alliance" as the 4 you keep in the public eye.
Granted, perhaps you do not have any internal debates as of yet. But, I doubt that any of the previously spoke of alliances did...at first.
As for Imperium calling in allies, why the hell not? You like your fights on yours terms, why not them on theirs.
And yes, hit and run warfare is very pleasing, ask your lackeys in FA core what fun it is. 
Cheers
Hooch
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Dyvim Slorm
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Posted - 2005.08.19 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: KOTH Fluf Couple of points of interest here. Elite Academy has never left the Fountain Region and has no intentions of doing so at this time. ELA moved out of the core of FA 6 months ago and settled the D4KU/Tarus Constelation and we like the region and dont intend to leave anytime soon.
And I was a FA chairman along with Ranger 1 during the last few months of FA, and we have never paid anyone by contract to fight our enemies. We did honor our treaty with Norad at the time Imperium came in to Outer Ring and fought quite a few good battles with them lead by Coug.
We will continue our fight vs BOB/Xelas and all the other invaders that seek to try to dominate the Fountain Region. Plenty of targets! 
So why did you leave FA then?
I've seen you personally, and some Pellanor Swarm in Fountain, the rest seem to stay docked in Karan. You'll have to do a bit better than that if you're going to kill BoB/XELAS 
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The Hooch
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Posted - 2005.08.19 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: Dyvim Slorm
Originally by: KOTH Fluf Couple of points of interest here. Elite Academy has never left the Fountain Region and has no intentions of doing so at this time. ELA moved out of the core of FA 6 months ago and settled the D4KU/Tarus Constelation and we like the region and dont intend to leave anytime soon.
And I was a FA chairman along with Ranger 1 during the last few months of FA, and we have never paid anyone by contract to fight our enemies. We did honor our treaty with Norad at the time Imperium came in to Outer Ring and fought quite a few good battles with them lead by Coug.
We will continue our fight vs BOB/Xelas and all the other invaders that seek to try to dominate the Fountain Region. Plenty of targets! 
So why did you leave FA then?
I've seen you personally, and some Pellanor Swarm in Fountain, the rest seem to stay docked in Karan. You'll have to do a bit better than that if you're going to kill BoB/XELAS 
You going to have to answer why you got into bed with BoB first. 
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Necronom
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Posted - 2005.08.19 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dyvim Slorm
Originally by: KOTH Fluf Couple of points of interest here. Elite Academy has never left the Fountain Region and has no intentions of doing so at this time. ELA moved out of the core of FA 6 months ago and settled the D4KU/Tarus Constelation and we like the region and dont intend to leave anytime soon.
And I was a FA chairman along with Ranger 1 during the last few months of FA, and we have never paid anyone by contract to fight our enemies. We did honor our treaty with Norad at the time Imperium came in to Outer Ring and fought quite a few good battles with them lead by Coug.
We will continue our fight vs BOB/Xelas and all the other invaders that seek to try to dominate the Fountain Region. Plenty of targets! 
So why did you leave FA then?
I've seen you personally, and some Pellanor Swarm in Fountain, the rest seem to stay docked in Karan. You'll have to do a bit better than that if you're going to kill BoB/XELAS 
So how did that war with ELA go? I hear its going good for ya. *end sarcasm*
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Dogsta
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Posted - 2005.08.19 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Dyvim Slorm
So why did you leave FA then? 
We left due to a multitude of reasons, many related to the state of our former alliance near the end. one example I feel i can give would be, the number of people willing to fight our enemies at the time were greatly out numbered by those that could not or would not be involved in the PvP aspects of the game, sighting the reasons such as I am an industrialist, and i make ships for my corp to support the wars ect.... another would be the refusal to show appreaciation to our friends and allies in the appropriate ways. and finaly the one that perhaps broke our resolve to stay was, 1 Billion isk to the most active pvp corp in FA per month, while refusing to assist the poorer corps sighting all corps shall be self suffiencient. sorry, that did it for myself, and My corpmates felt the same.
as for.
Originally by: Dyvim Slorm I've seen you personally, and some Pellanor Swarm in Fountain, the rest seem to stay docked in Karan. You'll have to do a bit better than that if you're going to kill BoB/XELAS
Im sorry your corp dropped your SE membership for the free war on US(while we were in FA) and on FA its self, then decided to War Dec us ( A predominantly US timezone corp ) then found it strange that most of us were afk during euro hours, or that the ones that were on were mostly Carebear types that when faced with 15:2 odds decided to sit it out. what I do find funny is how loud and proud some of your members smack talked us at every moment, yet when faced 1v1 or even 2v1 in thier favor ran and logged, usualy without telling others in your corp what we were in, or howmany there were of us. or of course theres the 5 stab thorax's running around quote."to anoy us" least that pilot could have done is put a gun on it, not just a rax with 5 wcs and nuthing else. heh also Camping yulai for us probly wasn't the smartest idea eh . and as for killing Xelas, and BoB. I'd say we have fun doing our little thing. No name is legion. The son of a demon. brought up from the depths of hell. The changing lamb. Turns to sand. Glorious renewal of war... |

Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.08.19 10:45:00 -
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Zandramus, you are wrong. We were not hired by FA, nor have we ever been. We had no idea rome et al were down there until we got there and had a fight with them, then became friends. We didn't join smash because we detest alliances and politics and carebears. We ended up leaving from Stain region because we had hit them very hard and they started bringing out cruiser fleets.
I never really liked TSBH that much but they were friends of friends...
Anyway, Stain seems to be respawning nicely now...... ----------------------------------------- wts all new "burberry" warp core stab II's |

Ranger 1
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Posted - 2005.08.19 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: Dyvim Slorm
Originally by: KOTH Fluf Couple of points of interest here. Elite Academy has never left the Fountain Region and has no intentions of doing so at this time. ELA moved out of the core of FA 6 months ago and settled the D4KU/Tarus Constelation and we like the region and dont intend to leave anytime soon.
And I was a FA chairman along with Ranger 1 during the last few months of FA, and we have never paid anyone by contract to fight our enemies. We did honor our treaty with Norad at the time Imperium came in to Outer Ring and fought quite a few good battles with them lead by Coug.
We will continue our fight vs BOB/Xelas and all the other invaders that seek to try to dominate the Fountain Region. Plenty of targets! 
So why did you leave FA then?
I've seen you personally, and some Pellanor Swarm in Fountain, the rest seem to stay docked in Karan. You'll have to do a bit better than that if you're going to kill BoB/XELAS 
This is going to sound crappy, and I really don't mean it that way...
but I live in 0.0, and roam half of the Fountain Region freely...
Where do you live?
That's not a moon... that's my POS
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.08.19 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra Zandramus, you are wrong. We were not hired by FA, nor have we ever been. We had no idea rome et al were down there until we got there and had a fight with them, then became friends. We didn't join smash because we detest alliances and politics and carebears. We ended up leaving from Stain region because we had hit them very hard and they started bringing out cruiser fleets.
I never really liked TSBH that much but they were friends of friends...
Anyway, Stain seems to be respawning nicely now......
Fair enough :P Just trying to stir the pot and see what fell out. Anyway things here are moving fantastically looks like we are gonna have people to fight for quite some time in SMASH, Xan, and 4s seem to be able to put quite a blob on the map, now if we can deal with the either blob or log practices of the above said groups and actually get a fight I would be very happy.
Zandramus
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Dyvim Slorm
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Posted - 2005.08.19 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Dogsta
We left due to a multitude of reasons, many .... snip
Thanks for your reply Dogsta, it was actually informative and clears a few things up I was curious about.
For the information of some of the wannabe trolls, Fury dropped its wardec against ELA as from our perception they rarely undocked, but if they're US timezone then thats hardly their fault.
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Dracorimus
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Posted - 2005.08.19 13:42:00 -
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Edited by: Dracorimus on 19/08/2005 13:42:16 doh wrong forum  -
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General Killah
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Posted - 2005.08.19 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Zandramus
Originally by: Shin Ra Zandramus, you are wrong. We were not hired by FA, nor have we ever been. We had no idea rome et al were down there until we got there and had a fight with them, then became friends. We didn't join smash because we detest alliances and politics and carebears. We ended up leaving from Stain region because we had hit them very hard and they started bringing out cruiser fleets.
I never really liked TSBH that much but they were friends of friends...
Anyway, Stain seems to be respawning nicely now......
Fair enough :P Just trying to stir the pot and see what fell out. Anyway things here are moving fantastically looks like we are gonna have people to fight for quite some time in SMASH, Xan, and 4s seem to be able to put quite a blob on the map, now if we can deal with the either blob or log practices of the above said groups and actually get a fight I would be very happy.
To Shin Ra: Yes exactly what I was thinking about the respawning.
Zand: I don't know how you can talk of blobs, you outnumber us every day and yet still everyway we give you a fight. You guys blob much much more. ---------------------------------
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The Hooch
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Posted - 2005.08.19 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dyvim Slorm
Originally by: Dogsta
We left due to a multitude of reasons, many .... snip
Thanks for your reply Dogsta, it was actually informative and clears a few things up I was curious about.
For the information of some of the wannabe trolls, Fury dropped its wardec against ELA as from our perception they rarely undocked, but if they're US timezone then thats hardly their fault.
My goodness, do I detect civility here between us? Look guys in Fury, I have no real beef with you guys, nor do I think that we have to be at odds in the area we both reside in.
You all have a zeal for PvP, we do too in a less measured way. I suspect we have far more in common than we either care to admit. Pehaps we could possibly come to agreements some day?
Cheers
Hooch
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Adam C
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Posted - 2005.08.19 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: The Hooch Look guys in Fury, I have no real beef with you guys, nor do I think that we have to be at odds in the area we both reside in.
Hooch
Put it simply FUCO are dogs of war nothing more, nothing less.
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Dyvim Slorm
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Posted - 2005.08.19 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: The Hooch
My goodness, do I detect civility here between us?
Dogsta posted well, particularly in regard to the reasons you left FA, so deserved to be treated with courtesy.
Doesn't mean we want to go to bed with you though 
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Hale Haleson
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Posted - 2005.08.19 21:56:00 -
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I was disapointed there weren't more shootouts between FUCO and ELA while I was on after you declared war. I was hoping to lose a few ships and help kill a few more of yours. 
------------------------------------------------ Will jam for Veldspar
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Dyvim Slorm
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Posted - 2005.08.19 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Hale Haleson I was disapointed there weren't more shootouts between FUCO and ELA while I was on after you declared war. I was hoping to lose a few ships and help kill a few more of yours. 
We're elsewhere atm working on another war, but maybe we'll be back sometime 
Shame you guys are mostly on a different timezone, we could have had a real good bundle 
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Wrayeth
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Posted - 2005.08.20 00:06:00 -
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Seems I got most of the action during the war, for some reason. It was definitely fun while it lasted. :)
I'm actually in the U.S., but I've been keeping odd hours and have actually been around during Euro times. That's about to change though, since I'm going back to college, so I probably won't be able to fight the next time you guys war us. :( -Wrayeth
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