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Malcanis
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Posted - 2013.03.11 10:27:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Might I suggest that one of the first things CSM 8 looks at is the restoration of the CSM itself.
And removing this stupid rule letting CCP chose who our delegates are that goes to Iceland.
It removes all incentives from the candidates to be frank with CCP and encourages brown nosing.
Add on to that the stupid voting system and subsequently anything else that comes out of these elections.
Now I would like to hear all the candidates points of view on the new voting system and well as the selection system compared to the old one.
And how many candidates actually know how the 2 decided by vote to go to Iceland is achieved.
Because lets face it if all the candidates cannot describe it bugger all of the electorate will.
So thank you those members of CSM 7 that created this travesty and all the resources that the CSM will have to use to fix it.
May you rot.
If a CSM guy requires a trip to Iceland to be frank with CCP, then he should never have been elected in the first place.
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Posted - 2013.03.11 10:46:00 -
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Per Trebor's comment on his Crossing Zebras interview (IIRC) then being on the CSM is a very inefficient way of going to iceland. If you value the "free" trip at -ú1000, then that works out to an effective rate of about -ú0.60--ú1.00 an hour for the 1000-1500 hours a hard-working CSM puts in. It would be far easier to get a job at MacDonalds or stacking shelves at Tescos for a couple of months and use the money to pay for a holiday that doesn't involve 3 days of meetings in a converted fish factory in Reykjavik in November.
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Posted - 2013.03.11 12:57:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Nathan Jameson wrote:I disagree. The trip to Iceland is hardly a reward; it's time I could be spending earning money at my job for my family.
I'm running for the CSM because I want to make an honest contribution to the game. A trip to Iceland, and whether or not I get chosen for that, doesn't even enter my equation. Well that is fair enough then Why don't you just publicly say in your campaign that you will refuse if offered, other wise it kind of sounds like political double speak.
Why should he say that? Going to Iceland represents an additional opportunity to represent the view he wants implemented. Of course he wants to go to Iceland, but not for its own sake, but for the reason he's running for CSM in the first place: an opportunity to work to make EVE a better game to play.
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Posted - 2013.03.11 13:03:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Malcanis wrote:Per Trebor's comment on his Crossing Zebras interview (IIRC) then being on the CSM is a very inefficient way of going to iceland. If you value the "free" trip at -ú1000, then that works out to an effective rate of about -ú0.60--ú1.00 an hour for the 1000-1500 hours a hard-working CSM puts in. It would be far easier to get a job at MacDonalds or stacking shelves at Tescos for a couple of months and use the money to pay for a holiday that doesn't involve 3 days of meetings in a converted fish factory in Reykjavik in November. Yes and so without the trip what rewards do the other members of the CSM that put in 1000-1500 hours of hard work?
They get the reward of making EVE better, which is why they're running in the first place.
If I wanted "rewards" other than that, I wouldn't be competing for a 'job' that pays a quid an hour. I'd just sign up to do a few weekends and bank holidays at work, and enjoy my extra money and time in lieu. It'd only take me a few weeks to get a far better 'reward'.
You seem to be stuck on this idea that the iceland conferences are a jolly, a treat, a reward. But all the CSM reps that have been to them are unanimous in saying that they're actually very hard work. Do you think they're all lying?
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Posted - 2013.03.12 16:27:00 -
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Badger Alestorm wrote:Frying Doom wrote:
So we put you in the basket of not caring that the power of your votes is diminished, understood. Also so nice to see someone so trusting of CCP and having faith in them not to lie, oh and I have a lovely bridge I would like to sell you.
I don't know what you're talking about, I agree with you completely. CCP is a menace and by far the biggest threat to EvE that EvE has ever or will ever face. If I were elected CSM the first thing I'd do when I got off the plane to Iceland is punch the first CCP employee I saw right in the face. You need to establish dominance quickly. The CSM is basically like prison, you either beat the crap out of someone the first day, or you end up someones *****. That's why I'd also sharpen the end of my toothbrush before I went, too. I'd also smuggle in as much illict substances as I could by putting them in a balloon and swallowing them, but that's more for personal reasons.
Quoting the next CSM chairman!
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Posted - 2013.03.16 09:15:00 -
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Nathan Jameson wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Nathan Jameson wrote:I disagree. The trip to Iceland is hardly a reward; it's time I could be spending earning money at my job for my family. Sounds like you need a better job. I get paid more to take time off. I'm a kindergarten teacher. 'Nuff said.
Who could be more qualified?
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