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Dave Day	Posted - 2005.08.18 22:17:00 - [1] Hi. I started playing Eve in July 2003 and joined a corp shortly afterwards. Not liking the feeling of being obliged to log on and mine and other corpy ''stuff'' I quit, and have been in an NPC corp since Oct 2003. I'm reasonably happy. I have acquired a couple of billion ISK and a couple of hundred BP's. I manufacture, trade and run agent missions. I chat with people in local and enjoy my time on line. But it's clear to me that i'm VERY much in the minority playing this way. I'm open minded and most of all want to enjoy my gaming experience. I'm willing to join another corp and think I have a lot to offer them but would I really see a benefit? Should I stay solo or take the plunge? If there are any corps out there interested in talking to me I'd be happy to listen. I need a stable environment to continue my manufacturing business in, I'm not looking for a corp that's always at war. I guess I'd like to talk to a grown up corp about how we can help each other. No disrespect to some of the fine 'young adults' who play the game but I'm 41 years old, work hard during the day and don't have time to talk l33t or whatever it's called with 12 year olds in the evenings. Are there any other Eve players out there like me? I'd love to know and would like to hear what your experiences and views are on my playing solo this long. Cheers Dave.
Bedrock	Posted - 2005.08.18 22:24:00 - [2] All depends how YOU feel comfortable playing the game. Being solo can only go so far since Corp Chat is rather fun depending which corp you go into. That, and you can participate in group activities. Such as Mining Ops, Pvp Gangs, or even Agent group running. I'm not a recruiter but if you'd like go to eve-i.com and check out Carbide Industries :p ---------------------------------------------- [apparent-dreams.com]
sableye	Posted - 2005.08.18 22:24:00 - [3] I'd say my corp would suit you well we don't have any corp commitments but occasionally do things together like missions (and occasionally mine) I'm the youngest in corp I think at 23 most are around your age, we don't really get involved in any corp wars but since we have joined norad we do live with the threat of empires wars I guess.
TjanitN Tcroxlr	Posted - 2005.08.18 22:31:00 - [4] Originally by: Dave Day I guess I'd like to talk to a grown up corp about how we can help each other. No disrespect to some of the fine 'young adults' who play the game but I'm 41 years old, work hard during the day and don't have time to talk l33t or whatever it's called with 12 year olds in the evenings. This isnt the recruiting thread, but I am a 31, currently unemployed UBC carpenter. While I do not discriminate by age, I seem to have attracted a mature membership so far. Please check out our ad in the recruiting section. Originally by: Dave Day Are there any other Eve players out there like me? Yes there are. I could rattle off a long list of veteran players who "raised" me. I now run my own corp and these revered mentors are still in SAK, rearing the next generation of corp CEOs. Originally by: Dave Day I would like to hear what your experiences and views are on my playing solo this long. There are so many cliches which answer that question perfectly: "If it aint broke...." "Whatever floats...." "The bottom line is that EVE is a rich and immersive universe centered on human interaction. Players can play the game as a simple space trader or endeavor to control the largest, most powerful company in the universe. We provide the rules and tools, but it is the players themselves who create the adventures." Whatever your reasons, if staying solo in a newb corp works for you, who cares what the flamers think? If you help train some newbs in the process, my hat is off to you with the utmost respect. Please click above for recruiting info.
Darius Shakor	Posted - 2005.08.18 22:32:00 - [5] Just a thought, since other corps didn't suit you, why not dabble in making a corp for others? Work the way it runs according to what you like, and the way you like to work. ------ Pain is meant to be felt. It is meant to exist.
Dave Day	Posted - 2005.08.18 22:42:00 - [6] Originally by: Darius Shakor Just a thought, since other corps didn't suit you, why not dabble in making a corp for others? Work the way it runs according to what you like, and the way you like to work. Thanks Darius. Yes, I've been thinking that with the money and assets I have behind me maybe I should stike out on my own but to be honest, in the beginning at least my fledgling corp would be very vulnerable to some of the gangs out there who specialise in declaring war on small corps and paralysing their business. I guess the old maxim 'nothing ventured nothing gained' is very true but I'd hate to have my business trashed by an aggressive corp I can't defend myself from. Out of interest, If i formed a corp and it didn't work out, can I quit as CEO (even if i'm the only member) and run back to the skirts of Viziam?
TjanitN Tcroxlr	Posted - 2005.08.18 22:47:00 - [7] Two things you have on your side that will prevent you from being trampled by the corp killers. 1) As long as you've been in the newb corp, I would assume you've touched the lives of many people who would love to serve under you. Corps with large numbers tend to not be bothered by the corp killers because gasp they might shoot back! 2)With the assets you have behind you, you could hire the biggest and best Merc corp in Eve to smack around any griefer corp that tries to bug you. I wish you the best of luck in whatever direction you choose to go. Please click above for recruiting info.
Amataras	Posted - 2005.08.18 22:53:00 - [8] Edited by: Amataras on 18/08/2005 22:54:13 Edited by: Amataras on 18/08/2005 22:53:39 Dave, might I suggest my own corp? (website:Hadean Drive Yards) You might or might not have heard of us, we're an old corp (as old as they get pretty much). Since you are interested in age range, I can say that from reading the membership's profiles I believe the average age is around the early 30s. I'm 20 and I believe i'm the second or third youngest in a corp of many A word about how we are run: everything is organised by the COs, and all product is owned by the corp collectively. If you were to join us, you would have access to corp assets but at the same time would be required to pass on everything you made to the communal assets. That's the way we work, and I have to say it works very well At the other end of the scale, there are corps which you basically join merely for self-defence. I'm not sure which offer this, but there are a few. You can catch us in the game channel "shop@HDY". Good luck finding a good corp -------------- The Eve Diplomacy Table Visit the Hadean Drive Yards
Marcsen	Posted - 2005.08.18 22:55:00 - [9] Hey Dave, good to see you're still around. Still remember you from old Hahda days () ---[G]---
Hippey	Posted - 2005.08.18 23:19:00 - [10] Originally by: Amataras If you were to join us, you would have access to corp assets but at the same time would be required to pass on everything you made to the communal assets. That's the way we work, and I have to say it works very well HDY, now with 100% more communism! ------------------------------------------- If you kill them, they will die!
Einheriar Ulrich	Posted - 2005.08.18 23:24:00 - [11] Originally by: Hippey Originally by: Amataras If you were to join us, you would have access to corp assets but at the same time would be required to pass on everything you made to the communal assets. That's the way we work, and I have to say it works very well HDY, now with 100% more communism! Hippey, where have you been ? So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar. **Minion Of VOTF**
Rick Dentill	Posted - 2005.08.18 23:25:00 - [12] You are missing out by playing solo. There are alot of corps out there which do not have obligatory corp mining ops and such. _______ Save me Jebus! http://x-universe.kiwi.nu/dd.php
Marcus Aurelius	Posted - 2005.08.18 23:36:00 - [13] Missing the point is not the right way to say it. Daniel Jackson is missing the point. You are just missing out on alot of social interaction you could be enjoying (assuming the competitive corp stuff isnt for you).
Panshin Bolo	Posted - 2005.08.18 23:45:00 - [14] Edited by: Panshin Bolo on 18/08/2005 23:45:01 at least Daniel Jackson is funny. edit: to laugh at I mean No Seriously... I must say, well done there Dave, You don't seem to get bored off that soon. And it emphasises how much features there are in EVE to go 'solo' with. You chose to be a teamplayer or not, I respect that. I couldn't live without a corp, having friends around, etc. It wouldn't be the same EVE to me. 0.0 on the other half is what I believe, something you must have seen in your EVE-time. Love it or Hate it. It's something a Npc-corp-member will never be able to fully enjoy/hate
ThorsHmr	Posted - 2005.08.19 00:16:00 - [15] Dave, from one 40-ish player to another, DAMN GOOD JOB! It took me the better part of my first 2 years playing this game to finally break me of the need to interact in a player corp...now I enjoy my evenings much more in an npc corp by simply turning blink off on the corp window and minimizing it and only chatting to a few friends in chats we've setup specifically for the purpose or on TS. Don't all you player corp folks out there take this as a knock at your dear homes.....I've just not found a player corp that suits me and, at my age, I tire of looking easily Anyway Dave, my best advice would be, if you're happy where you're at, doing what you do.....then keep on truckin' bud. "The biggest troublemaker you'll probably ever have to deal with watches you shave his face in the mirror every morning."
Bsport	Posted - 2005.08.19 00:32:00 - [16] i perfer freelance corps, that gives me the biggest choose. and play styles --------
Wild Rho	Posted - 2005.08.19 00:36:00 - [17] Beauty of eve is that you can do whatever you want more or less, no rules, no "formula", just do what you find fun, just be prepared to live with the concequences
Fendor Atar	Posted - 2005.08.19 01:04:00 - [18] i do belvie this thread should be in recruitment chat... it will prolly be moved as soon as a moderator wakes up
Allen Deckard	Posted - 2005.08.19 01:21:00 - [19] you could join my friends in minevestment and be one of the "younger" members in the corp. Basically a free based group of friends that do thing together but are also independent entities enjoy ts ect. Whats the benefit? Nothin really. Friends shared corp office where most of the guys dump their rat dropings for anyone to share in help each other out with loans, hauling, manufacturing, and friendship.
Elisse DuBane	Posted - 2005.08.19 01:25:00 - [20] Dave, Well done to you! I have been in a noob Corp for a year, I do my own thing and help 'deserving' (serious) nooblets when I can. Occasionally I can be persuaded to 'join in' but thats usually by means of gang ops. I have fun, and no, you are not alone. That said, I begin to yearn for something more..or wonder about it anyway. It is something I wrestle with nightly. Frankly I don't think such as us are really catered for. I don't mind a 'shooting session' now and again, but the whole War Dec thing can seriously change things overnight from friendly co-operation (which I would love to have) to some macho war (yes I really am a girl) which is, to me at least, utterly pointless. I commend you for your solo success, which far exceeds my own, but I too have the feeling that there must be things I miss out on. EvE is truly wonderful in allowing all playstyles, but the Alliances seem to me to prevent rather than encourage us long time, but 'reserved' players I wish you luck in your decisions..I really do.
Dao 2	Posted - 2005.08.19 01:59:00 - [21] 1337 $P34\|< is def not only a kids thing just to let u no ;p and do ppl seriously believe that ANYONE talks in 1337 speak 24/7 after playing an online game?....
Trevedian	Posted - 2005.08.19 03:08:00 - [22] I've been in a no0b corp for a few weeks now and I'm pretty content. It must just be us old guys that do our own thing. I jump onto around 3 Ventrilo/Teamspeak servers a day and chat with people when I'm bored. I still roll with my old crew, but this summer I just don't really see any benefit to being in a corp atm. I was a Director in a large corp not so long ago and its alot less stress going it solo. I used to have no0bs buggin me and expecting me to help them replace their ships that they lost for some retarded reason, now its all smooth sailing. Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
Kalahari Wayrest	Posted - 2005.08.19 03:20:00 - [23] IMO, the important thing is finding the right corp and the right people. I was pretty happy in the school corp solo'ing for a while, but joined a corp with some friends early on. It was badly led, mishandled and communication from the CEO to us was poor with extra backstabbing and pressure on the side. (Hi Ash!) So that put me off corps for a while, I was happier being independant tbh. Then I joined my second corp which was awesome, put a different spin on the game and was the most fun I've had in my time playing. So...Obviously it's down to personal preference but I think you should join a corp - I really believe it can make or break the game. The only thing I would say is, don't get disheartened if you join a corp and it turns out badly. There is a great corp out there with people you'll be able to work well with who want the same things out of the game that you do - you just gotta find'em.
Cowboy	Posted - 2005.08.19 04:19:00 - [24] Originally by: Hippey Originally by: Amataras If you were to join us, you would have access to corp assets but at the same time would be required to pass on everything you made to the communal assets. That's the way we work, and I have to say it works very well HDY, now with 100% more communism! OMG he lives Hiya, Hippey long time no see
Magnum II	Posted - 2005.08.19 04:35:00 - [25] Hi, Dave. I remember you from in the game, I got a great deal on a ship from you. You rule. Thanks.
BlackSabbath	Posted - 2005.08.19 04:47:00 - [26] should stop by CLS or any other ASCN corps and help build an empire, now that you are very well settled. eve becomes a difrent game when you need to relly on others. (a better part of the game) http://www.celestial-horizon.net/ "i am only here to **** you off"
Soren	Posted - 2005.08.19 04:51:00 - [27] I've been the only player in my corp for probably 8 months and it's fine with me. I don't know if I'll ever join another corp unless they have something to offer (any1 want to give me a dread?) that I can't get myself. _________________________________________________________
Gift	Posted - 2005.08.19 05:41:00 - [28] Originally by: Soren I've been the only player in my corp for probably 8 months and it's fine with me. I don't know if I'll ever join another corp unless they have something to offer (any1 want to give me a dread?) that I can't get myself.
Lardarz B'stard	Posted - 2005.08.19 06:11:00 - [29] There's positives for both the big corporate style of play and a more relaxed style. I have done both and prefer corps with a few players where you know everyone well. There is no right or wrong way to play the game and large scale social interaction is not everyone's cup of tea. Being in a noob corp you do miss out on a lot though. Being in a corp where you are the only player suggests you need your head examining. http://radio.evesound.net:8000/evetrance.ogg.m3u
Silver Night	Posted - 2005.08.19 06:12:00 - [30] You could find a corp that allows whatever level of involment you would like. Many corps, my own included will let you participate a lot (say run a POS or something) or just use corp chat as another place to talk with people. Originally by: TjanitN Tcroxlr Two things you have on your side that will prevent you from being trampled by the corp killers. 1) As long as you've been in the newb corp, I would assume you've touched the lives of many people who would love to serve under you. Corps with large numbers tend to not be bothered by the corp killers because gasp they might shoot back! 2)With the assets you have behind you, you could hire the biggest and best Merc corp in Eve to smack around any griefer corp that tries to bug you. I wish you the best of luck in whatever direction you choose to go. I have to say this isn't entirely true. ICT has had several of thsoe wars declared on it. 3 or 4 at last count, and thats since we broke 100 members. Course, we haven't lost any of them either. Minor disruption at most, which is an advantage of a large corp. The war decs tend to come regardless unfortunately. ------------------ Silver Night Director - Production and Science The Summit RP in-game channel highly recommended.

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