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None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2013.04.16 15:39:00 -
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Che Biko wrote:Mike Azariah wrote:[..]the players (the majority) don't want Avatars if it takes away from other game resources. I think this post shows a more accurate crosssection of the players: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=283120#post283120I have not seen anything that indicates that Avatars are not wanted by the majority. The CSM said something I agree with for the most part, as mentioned in them minutes of May 30th 2012: The CSM, particularly Elise Randolph and Seleene, emphasized that the main reason players ragedover the initial release was the diversion of resources.Another quote from the same minutes: CCP Unifex put up a power point presentation and started off the next phase of discussion that a lot of feedback he had during player events was that people did enjoy being able to dress and customize their characters.The one thing that bothers me most about the Incarna failure is that people say stuff like "That people didn't like an expansion that removed too much focus from spaceships, and forced people into a single player room with not much more than a clothes shop with ridiculously priced items, means that they don't like avatars." Hell, I didn't like the "first stage" of Incarna, but I'm still hoping that they will someday release what they were going to release in the winter of 2011.
I agree. Incarna was a failure, but not because it delivered Avatars.
It was handled wrong in many different ways. People were forced into the poorly performing demo room (and who's idea was it to do Minnie first?). Removed the hanger and ship spinning. The Macro-transactions of the $70 monocles and the greed is good memo. Much more actually but not worth the rehash.
Spacebarbiephobics that hate on any mention of avatars forget the bigger picture, causing it to be a minefield as Mike said.
Vote, you apathetic bastards!-á -> http://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/vote/ CSM 8 Endorsements: Ali Aras, Malcanis, Mike Azaria, Psychotic Monk, Trebor Daehdoow, Ripard Teg |
None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2013.04.18 18:52:00 -
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I like Mike!
Vote Mike Azariah for CSM8, practically a damn unicorn! Vote, you apathetic bastards!-á -> http://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/vote/ CSM 8 Endorsements: Ali Aras, Malcanis, Mike Azaria, Psychotic Monk, Trebor Daehdoow, Ripard Teg |
Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.04.18 22:12:00 -
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Before the polls close
How do you feel about the new STV voting system?
Do you understand it?
How do you feel about fact we can only identify 2 members of CSM7 who supported it?
Do you want it removed for a better or simpler system, while voting numbers are so low? Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null. |
None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2013.04.18 22:51:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Before the polls close
How do you feel about the new STV voting system?
Do you understand it?
How do you feel about fact we can only identify 2 members of CSM7 who supported it?
Do you want it removed for a better or simpler system, while voting numbers are so low?
Well this guy named Frying Doom says STV is good, so who are the rest of us to argue:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2897414#post2897414
Backup link: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2897645#post2897645
FYI - If numbers are low, I think we can point CCP's lame GOTV campaign rather than STV, or at least it muddied the waters enough so we can't really tell.
PS - I still like Mike. Go vote for him! Vote, you apathetic bastards!-á -> http://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/vote/ CSM 8 Endorsements: Ali Aras, Malcanis, Mike Azaria, Psychotic Monk, Trebor Daehdoow, Ripard Teg |
Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.04.18 22:56:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Before the polls close
How do you feel about the new STV voting system?
Do you understand it?
How do you feel about fact we can only identify 2 members of CSM7 who supported it?
Do you want it removed for a better or simpler system, while voting numbers are so low? Well this guy named Frying Doom says STV is good, so who are the rest of us to argue: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2897414#post2897414Backup link: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2897645#post2897645FYI - If numbers are low, I think we can point CCP's lame GOTV campaign rather than STV, or at least it muddied the waters enough so we can't really tell. PS - I still like Mike. Go vote for him! You just posted 2 threads that say exactly what I am asking.
STV is good, with high voter turn out, that is why I asked "Do you want it removed for a better or simpler system, while voting numbers are so low?"
But I was asking the candidate their opinion of it, as where I live has an STV system, with compulsory voting, so I am aware of the fact that in low percentile areas STV blocks all but the party candidates. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null. |
None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2013.04.18 23:10:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote: You just posted 2 threads that say exactly what I am asking.
STV is good, with high voter turn out, that is why I asked "Do you want it removed for a better or simpler system, while voting numbers are so low?"
But I was asking the candidate their opinion of it, as where I live has an STV system, with compulsory voting, so I am aware of the fact that in low percentile areas STV blocks all but the party candidates.
Whereas FPTP elections are just wonderful for independent candidates.
My point and your point aren't actually that far from each other:
To get better representation of the playerbase in the CSM you need: a good election system like STV AND higher voter turn out.
They achieved one, with some stumbles and not so much two, but as we are not getting stats on voting, we have no eveidence to go on.
I think it's pretty debatable that STV is worse, in this situation (particularly in advance of the results), but even if it is, perhaps the better solution would be to focus on what's left to do? Rather than your proposal which is apparently to undo the progress made.
What does seem to be clear to me, is this system gave at least the hope that indy candidates could compete, and we saw a number of candidates campaign well and be well received enlivening the debates. Giving I hope the playerbase a better understanding of the issues.
Mike here was an example of that. Go vote for Mike! Vote, you apathetic bastards!-á -> http://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/vote/ CSM 8 Endorsements: Ali Aras, Malcanis, Mike Azaria, Psychotic Monk, Trebor Daehdoow, Ripard Teg |
Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.04.18 23:22:00 -
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Personally I belive the whole set of changes made to the White Paper need to go.
giving our votes less power by allowing CCP to decide 5 of the people who go to Iceland, plus the fact that the STV change looks like it was forced down the CSMs throat. Thats is why only 2 CSM members support the change publicly.
But as I argued all last year, education as to WHY people should vote is the key to the CSM
The fact that CCP has come forward praising CSM7 and a dev has gone off at a player over criticizing them does little to show that the CSM is not just a PR stunt for CCP.
Nor did a CSM member coming forward and saying the CSM has to be useful to CCP or it will be removed help because lets face it for a CSM to be useful to us the players during a crisis, it needs to speak for us and not be useful to CCP. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null. |
None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2013.04.18 23:42:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Personally I belive the whole set of changes made to the White Paper need to go.
giving our votes less power by allowing CCP to decide 5 of the people who go to Iceland, plus the fact that the STV change looks like it was forced down the CSMs throat. Thats is why only 2 CSM members support the change publicly.
But as I argued all last year, education as to WHY people should vote is the key to the CSM
The fact that CCP has come forward praising CSM7 and a dev has gone off at a player over criticizing them does little to show that the CSM is not just a PR stunt for CCP.
Nor did a CSM member coming forward and saying the CSM has to be useful to CCP or it will be removed help because lets face it for a CSM to be useful to us the players during a crisis, it needs to speak for us and not be useful to CCP.
He went off on Poetic for posting ridiculous unsupported drivel. He got a like from me on that.
Just because a GM defends a CSM from unhinged criticism doesn't mean that CSM is a meaningless tool. There is plenty of players speaking about how much they value the CSM if you are open to seeing it. If you've got drama llama blinders on, you can focus on the outrageous trolls.
The rest of us will be busy discussing the actual pros and cons.
A gem in your post though:
Frying Doom wrote:But as I argued all last year, education as to WHY people should vote is the key to the CSM
Couldn't agree with this more. Well except for the part where not to long ago you were encouraging people not to vote, but why quibble? Vote, you apathetic bastards!-á -> http://community.eveonline.com/community/csm/vote/ CSM 8 Endorsements: Ali Aras, Malcanis, Mike Azaria, Psychotic Monk, Trebor Daehdoow, Ripard Teg |
Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.04.18 23:53:00 -
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CSM 7 was not great for the CSM its self
Lack of communication with the playerbase
Lack of Transparency
Lack of separation, because honestly it looked more like they worked for CCP and less like they worked for us.
Look at all the comments in the voting treads, that was the worst I can remember it, the CSM needs to be seen, and it needs to be seen acting as our voice.
We should never have the situation where something like the STV system, where you cannot actually find out who supported it or something like the POS where the majority of the CSM seemed fine to leave us in the dark and wait for the screaming to start. Vote Now! My recommendations are:-á 1.James Arget 2.Ayeson 3.Nathan Jameson 4.Cipreh 5.Chitsa Jason 6. Malcanis 7. Mike Azariah 8. Ripard Teg 9. Mangala Solaris 10. Ali Aras 11. Roc Wieler And remember not voting is the same as voting for Null. |
Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.04.19 01:28:00 -
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Now if we could just get all of these candidate threads un-stickyed Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
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Mike Azariah
Gallente Benevolence Association
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Posted - 2013.04.19 04:42:00 -
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I would like to take this chance, BEFORE I am 'unstickied' to thank all of you who wrote here and wrote to me personally during this election.
Win or Lose it has been a great experience and I truly was touched by the endorsements and votes of support that I received.
Thank you all
m Mike Azariah for CSM8 - Representing YOU |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2013.04.19 19:28:00 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:I would like to take this chance, BEFORE I am 'unstickied' to thank all of you who wrote here and wrote to me personally during this election.
Win or Lose it has been a great experience and I truly was touched by the endorsements and votes of support that I received.
Thank you all
m
I hope it works out. I had you at the top of my slate and I know I voted you #1 for all my accounts.
Good luck!!
Issler |
Apricot Baby
caldariprimeponyclub
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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:38:00 -
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YES YES YES YES!!! Unreleased Ships (Images) - www.imgur.com/a/uablN Unreleased Ships (Videos) - www.youtube.com/user/TanithAmberdemon Eve Celshader Project - www.imgur.com/a/5mn44
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None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2013.04.27 19:53:00 -
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You gorgeous effing unicorn you!
You beat the odds!
So proud of you, CSM Mike Azariah. I hope you voted, you glorious but often apathetic bastards! CSM 8 Endorsements: Ali Aras, Malcanis, Mike Azaria, Psychotic Monk, Trebor Daehdoow, Ripard Teg |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:08:00 -
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Mike,
A long overdue congratulations!!!
I expect great things from and for you in CSM 8!!
Way to go!
Issler |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.04.27 20:10:00 -
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Well done Mike
1 Kings 12:11
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2013.04.27 21:34:00 -
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You made it! Now make it worth of the effing miracle you just incarnate... The Greater Fool Bar-áis now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden!-áIngame chat channel: The Greater Fool Bar |
Apricot Baby
caldariprimeponyclub
77
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:57:00 -
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Haha WHY IS IT RAINING INSIDE!
So many people are over the moon for you Mike! You should be very proud. Unreleased Ships (Images) - www.imgur.com/a/uablN Unreleased Ships (Videos) - www.youtube.com/user/TanithAmberdemon Eve Celshader Project - www.imgur.com/a/5mn44
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.04.27 22:58:00 -
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Congratulations. Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Jerod trd
T-Rex Inc. Mind-Meld
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Posted - 2013.04.28 11:28:00 -
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Congrats Mike.
I agree that this is long-overdue, I hope you avoid the burnout that has plagued so many of those who have held the post before you...
Good Luck, and (in the long-standing tradition of those who have been promoted before you) May God have Mercy Upon Your Soul... Because the real work begins now. |
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Xander Phoena
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
185
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:43:00 -
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About ******* time Mike ;)
<3 www.crossingzebras.com |
Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
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Posted - 2013.04.28 22:26:00 -
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Congrats Mike and best of luck to you. |
Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
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Posted - 2013.04.29 05:36:00 -
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Congrats, Mike! Do us proud! Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |
Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
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Posted - 2013.04.29 16:08:00 -
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Congrats, Mike. Nightmares - A short story by Ch+¬ Biko |
Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
494
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:29:00 -
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According to Poe's breakdown, the number of ballots you appeared on is: ~10,058~.
Don't get drunk on us, OK? Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |
Mike Azariah
Gallente Benevolence Association
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Posted - 2013.05.15 22:27:00 -
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Drunk? Drunk with power you mean?
bwa ha ha ha *cough cough*
Nah, drunk isn't on the agenda. Working IS
m Mike Azariah-á CSM8 |
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