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ALUCARD 1208 Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis 147	Posted - 2013.03.14 09:32:00 - [31] - Quote sorry colt i was generalising and not meaning just occupancy war.. GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á
Crosi Wesdo War and Order 520	Posted - 2013.03.14 11:14:00 - [32] - Quote Yuri Intaki wrote: looking for heterosexual single women in a gay bar. You keep telling yourself that ;)
Shadow Adanza Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats 51	Posted - 2013.03.14 12:16:00 - [33] - Quote Colt Blackhawk wrote: Well these big fleet fights are only good for one thing: Polishing kb stats. Although in my opinion killmails with 30+ people on it aren-¦t really impressive. These big fleet fights have almost no influence to militia tiers. What does militia tiers have to do with anything in the end? The big fleet fights are good for having fun. It's a game, not your life or your job. Systems will come and go, the tiers will fluctuate. In fact, only caring about tiers would put you in the same category as the farmers. It's not about the isk or the systems your militia owns or the plexes you spin. Hey! You're no zombie!
Yuri Intaki Nasranite Watch The Bloody Ronin Syndicate 127	Posted - 2013.03.14 13:15:00 - [34] - Quote Shadow Adanza wrote: What does militia tiers have to do with anything in the end? You are in FW and you need to ask that?
Crosi Wesdo War and Order 521	Posted - 2013.03.14 13:31:00 - [35] - Quote Yuri Intaki wrote: Shadow Adanza wrote: What does militia tiers have to do with anything in the end? You are in FW and you need to ask that? Of course he doesnt. But im going to explain what i believe to be the overwhelming consensus view to you. Fact is the plexes, tiers and isk are all catalysts for fun times, be it gudfites, blobbing, small gang, boosted solo, tru solo or whatever. FW is an arena, to encourage PvP. Though it does appear there are people who like to roleplay occupancy, who seem to consider what a system says in the top left corner of the screen to be the primary focus of FW while being too jaded to appreciate the things that are generated by the fw arena as a whole. I think most of us can agree that those few people have a confusing outlook on FW. Perhaps they enjoy taking occupancy really seriously, that is both their crime and their punishment imo.
Kron Tronix Moira. Villore Accords 0	Posted - 2013.03.14 13:46:00 - [36] - Quote I would probably feel the same as OP if it wasnt for the awesome leaders of gmva and certain ppls villing to FC (and rock at it) i rarely join public millitia fleets without knowing who the FC is. At least our FC's will lead us to a glorious death if outnumbered. Kron
Yuri Intaki Nasranite Watch The Bloody Ronin Syndicate 127	Posted - 2013.03.14 14:12:00 - [37] - Quote Crosi Wesdo wrote: Though it does appear there are people who like to roleplay occupancy, who seem to consider what a system says in the top left corner of the screen to be the primary focus of FW while being too jaded to appreciate the things that are generated by the fw arena as a whole. So you are essentially parroting the old lie that "Caldari take it seriously" and "Gallente take it casually" despite your militia having already stated multiple times they dont want any hostiles living in low-sec to harass your isk farming.
Kane Alvo SQUIDS. 85	Posted - 2013.03.14 14:48:00 - [38] - Quote Was talking w/ a corpmate about this last night... Basically he said that I haven't been around long enough to experience the high and low tide of FW occupancy. The reason I'm not seeing much coordinated effort/fleets is because CalMil controls most of the systems currently. Everyone is spread out, trying to defend their home systems. I guess not that long ago, the frogs controlled everything and CalMil had to stage out of hi-sec. Since everyone was lumped together, there were a lot more fleets and more of a concerted effort to regain a foothold. Makes sense. Caldari Militia -áGÿ£GÿàGÿP Psychotic Monk for CSM8
Crosi Wesdo War and Order 521	Posted - 2013.03.14 14:55:00 - [39] - Quote Yuri Intaki wrote: Crosi Wesdo wrote: Though it does appear there are people who like to roleplay occupancy, who seem to consider what a system says in the top left corner of the screen to be the primary focus of FW while being too jaded to appreciate the things that are generated by the fw arena as a whole. So you are essentially parroting the old lie that "Caldari take it seriously" and "Gallente take it casually" despite your militia having already stated multiple times they dont want any hostiles living in low-sec to harass your isk farming. Nah, i know for a fact that there are a lot of normal people in the caldai and all other militias. The fact i didnt mention any militia specifically was not an accident. Just the few 'personalities' that seem to have confusing priorities in all militias. Perhaps my post struck a chord with you for a reason?
Major Killz 158	Posted - 2013.03.14 15:12:00 - [40] - Quote You guys are so precious. Cute!
Bad Messenger Nasranite Watch The Bloody Ronin Syndicate 388	Posted - 2013.03.14 16:36:00 - [41] - Quote Capitol One wrote: Once upon a time, there was organization in the caldari militia and all was well. Then one day it ended, when Wolfsbrigade left. /me turns on flame-hardeners. one corp is not a militia organization. Caldari do have certain organizations but not everyone can join those when they want. But as what comes to organization itself is that someone has to manage those somehow so you can from you own organization model and ask others to join. If you try to make general militia organization it will face several problems as spies and people who do not want to give any 'leadership status' to anyone. Best way in militia is to form strong corporation who do not need support from outsiders.
X Gallentius Justified Chaos 1140	Posted - 2013.03.14 17:03:00 - [42] - Quote ALUCARD 1208 wrote: There has been no real cohesive teamwork from the squids since wbr left tbh ..... WBR had internal cohesion and PERVS/draketrain had internal cohesion as well. Of the two organizations, draketrain was clearly the superior FW corporation. I don't think WBR would dispute this since their goal was never to engage in FW activities. Caldari external cohesion degraded after they took all the systems and many of their core groups bailed (22nd, CAIN, etc..). At times they seem to start to pull together and then somebody war decs somebody else and it all falls apart.
Salicaz Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession 117	Posted - 2013.03.14 17:17:00 - [43] - Quote X Gallentius wrote: ALUCARD 1208 wrote: There has been no real cohesive teamwork from the squids since wbr left tbh ..... WBR had internal cohesion and PERVS/draketrain had internal cohesion as well. Of the two organizations, draketrain was clearly the superior FW corporation. I don't think WBR would dispute this since their goal was never to engage in FW activities. Caldari external cohesion degraded after they took all the systems and many of their core groups bailed (22nd, CAIN, etc..). At times they seem to start to pull together and then somebody war decs somebody else and it all falls apart. Was in Draketrain (albeit not terrible long) and still in WBR. I'd say that yes, in terms of impact on militia Draketrain did more. We set up shop in Villore and erm, "tamed" the navy. Draketrain also did the more plexing stuff etc at a time it wasn't so crucial. WBR however grew out of FW but has more effect on entire regions where we live. We were born in FW, moulded by it, made friends with our most dangerous enemies and then progressed down a different path. The problem with militias is they are too many small units that dont work together. A big unit comes in every once in a while and the smaller ones kinda follow/benefit from them but when the big unit leaves it rocks the militia too much. This happens on all front in FW also.
ALUCARD 1208 Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis 151	Posted - 2013.03.14 17:24:00 - [44] - Quote i did say after wbr left....... i did think pervs ad draktrain left before wbr i may be wrong. GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á
X Gallentius Justified Chaos 1140	Posted - 2013.03.14 17:35:00 - [45] - Quote ALUCARD 1208 wrote: i did say after wbr left....... i did think pervs ad draktrain left before wbr i may be wrong. The last guy to truly care about Caldari militia cohesion was probably Cosmic Raider. And his boat sailed away with the 22nd. I guess you could say Bolsterbomb last year, but he was an XMETA spy.
Shadow Adanza Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats 51	Posted - 2013.03.14 20:27:00 - [46] - Quote Yuri Intaki wrote: Shadow Adanza wrote: What does militia tiers have to do with anything in the end? You are in FW and you need to ask that? I'm in FW because it's fun. What are you in it for? Hey! You're no zombie!
Yuri Intaki Nasranite Watch The Bloody Ronin Syndicate 128	Posted - 2013.03.15 07:13:00 - [47] - Quote Shadow Adanza wrote: I'm in FW because it's fun. What are you in it for? I'm here for the fun too but most likely if I would give you my definition of "fun" you would no doubt launch into a three page long ad-hominem attack so I wont.
Wey'oun Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly 77	Posted - 2013.03.15 07:45:00 - [48] - Quote That is because your definition of fun is illegal. Just ask Jimmy Savile.
Lord Rixus Turalyon Plus 23	Posted - 2013.03.15 12:44:00 - [49] - Quote Just join ev0ke man, you'll never have to fight with less than 30 people again. You can play big fish in a small pond all day.
Shadow Adanza Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats 55	Posted - 2013.03.15 14:48:00 - [50] - Quote Yuri Intaki wrote: Shadow Adanza wrote: I'm in FW because it's fun. What are you in it for? I'm here for the fun too but most likely if I would give you my definition of "fun" you would no doubt launch into a three page long ad-hominem attack so I wont. I have nothing but respect for you, Damar. The only thing I'd attack pertaining to you is your ship in-game. Hey! You're no zombie!
Princess Nexxala Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats 321	Posted - 2013.03.15 14:51:00 - [51] - Quote Don't even try Shadow, the big bad gallente touched his naughty bits once and ever since we are all the DEVIL Shadow Adanza wrote: Yuri Intaki wrote: Shadow Adanza wrote: I'm in FW because it's fun. What are you in it for? I'm here for the fun too but most likely if I would give you my definition of "fun" you would no doubt launch into a three page long ad-hominem attack so I wont. I have nothing but respect for you, Damar. The only thing I'd attack pertaining to you is your ship in-game. derp?
X Gallentius Justified Chaos 1143	Posted - 2013.03.15 17:58:00 - [52] - Quote Coming Soon: Locked Thread.
X Gallentius Justified Chaos 1143	Posted - 2013.03.15 17:59:00 - [53] - Quote Lord Rixus wrote: Just join ev0ke man, you'll never have to fight with less than 30 people again. You can play big fish in a small pond all day. Fish is getting smaller, or pond is getting bigger. Down to 5 corps, 450 guys. Ev0ke is smaller than GMVA now.
Colt Blackhawk Forced Penetration Hopeless Addiction 78	Posted - 2013.03.15 19:24:00 - [54] - Quote It seems some people think that fw is about "okay I don-¦t undock before I have 40+ friends in my fleet" ^^ Try solo.... try 3 frigs vs 5 frigs/frogs. Believe me: Mooooooore fun.
ALUCARD 1208 Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis 153	Posted - 2013.03.16 11:09:00 - [55] - Quote isnt the point of militia an army? i dont see countrys going to war irl sending just 1 man GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á
Colt Blackhawk Forced Penetration Hopeless Addiction 78	Posted - 2013.03.16 12:21:00 - [56] - Quote Quote: isnt the point of militia an army? i dont see countrys going to war irl sending just 1 man MILITIA is not ARMY. If you really think about only going out with 20+ you can also go 0.0. Same stuff.
ALUCARD 1208 Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis 153	Posted - 2013.03.16 15:41:00 - [57] - Quote [quote=Colt Blackhawk] Quote: MILITIA is not ARMY. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia just saying GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á
Morgan Torry Arma Purgatorium Templis Dragonaors 113	Posted - 2013.03.16 16:58:00 - [58] - Quote ALUCARD 1208 wrote: [quote=Colt Blackhawk] Quote: MILITIA is not ARMY. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia just saying Was considering this but almost did a lmgtfy. That said, I feel that as with anything communication and coordination could always be increased for maximum efficiency. The truth is this is a game. The mechanic is horrid and encourages separation (alliances/corps are not forced under a single banner short of "Militia"). We have people behind the computers. Most of them raging EFT warriors. I'm actually quite content with the current state of the Caldari Militia as I feel it works. It is not perfect. It can use a lot of improvement. Yet, it works and does so sufficiently to give me a reason to keep playing in FW. Imo that's the measure you need to use to rate militias. Arma Purgatorium - For the State, For the Corporation Faction Warfare, PvP, Training
Colt Blackhawk Forced Penetration Hopeless Addiction 79	Posted - 2013.03.16 17:26:00 - [59] - Quote Quote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia My fault :(
Sir Livingston Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats 187	Posted - 2013.03.16 18:10:00 - [60] - Quote i enjoy candle light dinners and squids running from my pewpew i make videos about internet spaceships click to watch: http://www.youtube.com/JonnyPew in-game chat channel: Club Deadspace

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