But over the last 5 years, it feels like the "culture" of the internet has changed. Namely, the idea of "trolling" as entertainment.

i think i just trolled.

Trolls are a myth, they don't exist here or anywhere else on the internet

Is there an OOPE in-game channel ? I mean, since Incarna, we can technically be OOP while in game. So, either we rename the OOPE to "out of game experience" or we create an OOPE channel in-game.

Would get me to log in again ... maybe.

i think i just got trolled.

Now they're the socially accepted norm.......

Sorry, that statement was unclear. Within the culture and society of the internet, they're considered an accepted norm. I agree it's behavior that's still recognized as outside of the convention out in meatworld.

Not quite: http://www.salon.com/2012/10/15/infamous_reddit_troll_loses_job_after_gawker_expose/


http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/18/us/internet-troll-apology

Yes, fooling people makes you the absolute king of your social hierarchy. I conceed your social prowess and everything.

But what about that is appealing?

Sorry, that statement was unclear. Within the culture and society of the internet, they're considered an accepted norm. I agree it's behavior that's still recognized as outside of the convention out in meatworld.

No, I get what they're trying to do. What's confusing to me is the purpose of it.

Is it really just "Hah, I totally made that random stranger believe a piece of misinformation, and now they are upset!"

If so, I still honestly don't "get" why that's entertaining.

you haven't answered my question: what's the BBC

BBS

Bulletin Board System

An ancient method of electronic communication.

Scrolling text messages in a 'live forum'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system

See, this is to me a trolling done right. It's neither mean nor ill-spirited, yet funny as hell.

*giggle, giggle, rofl, lol*

Typo = Troll ?

Rain typed BBC on purpose.

Are you so sure about that ?

I thought not, so it must not be Troll.

Jill Trolls.
edit: ...and gets the Block.

Forgive me, I'm just jealous of your 3000+ likes

it's not the same, those are gay likes

So, I've been around since the BBS days. Always loved the internet. The entiretly of human knowledge, entertainment, and pron in my house. Awesome.

But over the last 5 years, it feels like the "culture" of the internet has changed. Namely, the idea of "trolling" as entertainment.

And I just don't get it.

I grant, I'm an old guy, and don't get a lot of trends. But this one confuses me more than most.

"Hah! I told you a lie that will upset people who believe it"

Is it really just that? The enjoyment of an attempt at ruining someone else's mood?

I'm not mad, this isn't a rant, people gonna peep, et cetera. I just honestly don't "get it"

So, please, introspective young people - enlighten me?

Edit to add: Yes, I know the idea of the internet troll massively predates even the internet. But they used to be an emotionally crippled minority, which I got. Broken people do broken things. Now they're the socially accepted norm, and normal people are doing broken things, which is my confusion.

well, the idea is you're supposed to leave after a troll post, so... it's textbook.

(what, you didn't know there's a textbook?)

Often enough, people even use the infamous "LOL I TROLL U" just as a bad cover when they have posted some incredibly stupid stuff.

edit: more reliable sources on trolling than wikipedia: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Troll

What confounds me moreso than the troll is the utter non-sequitur comment sections on youtube and moreover ebaumsworld. Outright cauldrons of internet sludge.

Like anyone but trolls actually read youtube comments

Is there an OOPE in-game channel ? I mean, since Incarna, we can technically be OOP while in game. So, either we rename the OOPE to "out of game experience" or we create an OOPE channel in-game.

Would get me to log in again ... maybe.

Like anyone but trolls actually read youtube comments

trolling is an interesting art that has a new word association, but has been going on for many years.

One could conceivably argue that Jonathan Swift's A Modest Proposal is a prime example of trolling on a national level. While the anonymity of the internet is a relatively new thing, and we are somewhat getting used to it, that doesnt meant that trolling hasn't been around for some time.

The Jerky Boys used to troll by phone, and sold many albums, because people fundamentally enjoy watching, hearing, or knowing someone is getting duped. Candid Camera did it on television, and one could argue that reality TV has a certain troll appeal in almost everything it does. There seems to always be a witty instigation somewhere in the show that elicits unwarranted emotional responses from people for amusement.

call it a troll, or a trainwreck, the principle is very similar. And while the anonymity of the internet is often blamed, i think that perhaps more at fault is the ease with which a human can leave a trail of witty retort, vulgar slime, or what have you all over the place in 7 or 8 minutes without thinking too much.

Stream of consciousness posting, as it were. A good purposeful troll, as someone has already mentioned, might not every be found out, or might be making a point far from the actual discussion. The moods and attitudes of the poster online are about the same as editorials in newspapers. After all, some of the US Republicans often seem to troll for Democratic responses, and vice versa. Without the opposition, there would be nothing but idiotic arguments, and this kind of trolling has been going on since the friggin printing press.

Actually, taken in its complete history, trolling can be seen as far back as the Canterbury Tales, which were amusing tales of an almost middle class in the medieval period. Certainly one could make an argument that some of the old greek plays were trolling in a way in which they depicted those in power, and elicited emotional responses out of par with the content (Lysistrata a prime example).

Where before the internet, one had to actually do a bit of work to be allowed to troll often, now it is something anyone, literally anyone, can do to pass the time. Who knows if you are dealing with a 12 year old, a computer programmer with bad writing skills, a 50 year old who loves to screw with people, or a 32 year old vespa model who really is naive enough to think that she is right... You never can tell. That is what makes the internet and its creation of long lists of "responses" and comments so much fun...

I love reading the comments, on almost anything, as i work in politics, when i do research the comments are often a way in which i can tell the tenor of how an argument will play out with real people in a conversation, and while the internet might make the good folks at home more free to say naughty things, i have found that we as Americans (can't speak to others) seem to be OK with allowing vitriol into our day to day discourse.

Freedom of speech is taking on a whole new aspect.

... 'our' Tom Gerrard.

Forum Troll Qorum of Twelve Super Ultra Secret Closed-doors Conclave

Up you go from page 3!

Read #3, it's pretty much what I've been saying for a while.

So, I've been around since the BBS days. Always loved the internet. The entiretly of human knowledge, entertainment, and pron in my house. Awesome.

But over the last 5 years, it feels like the "culture" of the internet has changed. Namely, the idea of "trolling" as entertainment.

And I just don't get it.

I grant, I'm an old guy, and don't get a lot of trends. But this one confuses me more than most.

"Hah! I told you a lie that will upset people who believe it"

Is it really just that? The enjoyment of an attempt at ruining someone else's mood?

I'm not mad, this isn't a rant, people gonna peep, et cetera. I just honestly don't "get it"

So, please, introspective young people - enlighten me?

Edit to add: Yes, I know the idea of the internet troll massively predates even the internet. But they used to be an emotionally crippled minority, which I got. Broken people do broken things. Now they're the socially accepted norm, and normal people are doing broken things, which is my confusion.