EVE Search - Reduce Thoraxes bay to 100m3

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Sorja	Posted - 2005.08.22 19:48:00 - [1] I see more and more people flying Thoraxes, and it's good. I wish other cruisers could be as usefull though, and some are like the Maller or Stabber for example. Stop it with the nerfage madness already.
Sorja	Posted - 2005.08.26 03:48:00 - [2] Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK AND PEOPLE STOP SAYING "Don't nerf the 'Rax, buff all other cruisers" BECAUSE IT WONT HAPPEN. Thats a major game mechanic overhaul. If you know anything about game design you'll know its NOT feasible, when a few tweaks can be made to bring everything in line. I friendly disagree with this. You can't change game mechanics without rebalancing the foundation of combat (ships). Look at what happened to Caldari ships, and tell me a serious overhaul of ship layouts isn't needed? You think it's a huge task? It's not trivial, granted. But it's needed. It has already been announced (am I correct?) that T1 frigs will soon get an overhaul to make them more useful, why not for cruisers? They got a boost with last patch, that's why people are talking again about cruisers, because they are fun to fly and generally cheap, which makes them good choices for PvPers who like to do 'crazy things' that they can't afford in HACs or other techII ships. I for one would like to see a further overhaul of cruisers than frigates. Kill mails
Sorja E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2005.08.26 03:48:00 - [3] Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK AND PEOPLE STOP SAYING "Don't nerf the 'Rax, buff all other cruisers" BECAUSE IT WONT HAPPEN. Thats a major game mechanic overhaul. If you know anything about game design you'll know its NOT feasible, when a few tweaks can be made to bring everything in line. I friendly disagree with this. You can't change game mechanics without rebalancing the foundation of combat (ships). Look at what happened to Caldari ships, and tell me a serious overhaul of ship layouts isn't needed? You think it's a huge task? It's not trivial, granted. But it's needed. It has already been announced (am I correct?) that T1 frigs will soon get an overhaul to make them more useful, why not for cruisers? They got a boost with last patch, that's why people are talking again about cruisers, because they are fun to fly and generally cheap, which makes them good choices for PvPers who like to do 'crazy things' that they can't afford in HACs or other techII ships. I for one would like to see a further overhaul of cruisers than frigates. ____________________ A gentleman is someone who can play the bagpipe, but who does not.
Sorja	Posted - 2005.08.30 17:10:00 - [4] Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK I flew a plated Rax into PVP last week, engaged a fleet of 28 IRON warships (with 6 friendlies), a dozen of which were firing on me, and still almost managed to bag a Crow (Hi Sorja ... I swear, 2 more seconds...) HAHAH! It was you! Fun fight indeed, I love you guys, I mean it, you are a cool bunch I was busy tackling some of your battleships so I only kept a missile launcher on you just... because I ♥ you Shame on you for forcing me to bail out before the fight was over Back on topic, I wasted my weekly Moa yesterday againt a Rax. Everybody in my corp wonders why I still fly that pile of poo, but hey! I'm sentimental and I swore I'd find a way to put that thing to any use (besides sniping, bleh, only for pussies). I knew I had no chance at all but my 'trash' fittings are tech I besides the mag stab II so I just engage whoever challenges me in remotely fair fights. We agreed on a planet, I warped at 15 and, lucky me! he also warped in at 15 so I didn't even need to use my MWD (note that the rax has a HUGE advantage when it comes to MWD, on top of everything else). Unfortunately, he had electron blasters fitted, just like me, so I could not avoid enough of his guns while killing his drones. The fight was over in less than 40 seconds, despite my 800mm plate, kinetic hardener and medium armor rep. Even a medium smartbomb (should I equip a smartbomb that cripples my powergrid only to fight thoraxes?) wouldn't have killed his drones in time, it requires around 50 seconds to get rid of the drones. When my ship exploded, his armor was still around 80% because a Rax has 3 mids, well enough to tackle, MWD and web, and 5 lows which allow very good tanking while the Moa can't use his wonderfull shield boost bonus since the mids are devoted to other things, forcing it to armor tank for dog fights. I had 5 small drones on him while he had 10 heavy drones, for the same guns. 25m¦ dronebay on a Moa for the lose In other words, boost the worthless cruisers FFS! Kill mails
Sorja E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2005.08.30 17:10:00 - [5] Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK I flew a plated Rax into PVP last week, engaged a fleet of 28 IRON warships (with 6 friendlies), a dozen of which were firing on me, and still almost managed to bag a Crow (Hi Sorja ... I swear, 2 more seconds...) HAHAH! It was you! Fun fight indeed, I love you guys, I mean it, you are a cool bunch I was busy tackling some of your battleships so I only kept a missile launcher on you just... because I ♥ you Shame on you for forcing me to bail out before the fight was over Back on topic, I wasted my weekly Moa yesterday againt a Rax. Everybody in my corp wonders why I still fly that pile of poo, but hey! I'm sentimental and I swore I'd find a way to put that thing to any use (besides sniping, bleh, only for pussies). I knew I had no chance at all but my 'trash' fittings are tech I besides the mag stab II so I just engage whoever challenges me in remotely fair fights. We agreed on a planet, I warped at 15 and, lucky me! he also warped in at 15 so I didn't even need to use my MWD (note that the rax has a HUGE advantage when it comes to MWD, on top of everything else). Unfortunately, he had electron blasters fitted, just like me, so I could not avoid enough of his guns while killing his drones. The fight was over in less than 40 seconds, despite my 800mm plate, kinetic hardener and medium armor rep. Even a medium smartbomb (should I equip a smartbomb that cripples my powergrid only to fight thoraxes?) wouldn't have killed his drones in time, it requires around 50 seconds to get rid of the drones. When my ship exploded, his armor was still around 80% because a Rax has 3 mids, well enough to tackle, MWD and web, and 5 lows which allow very good tanking while the Moa can't use his wonderfull shield boost bonus since the mids are devoted to other things, forcing it to armor tank for dog fights. I had 5 small drones on him while he had 10 heavy drones, for the same guns. 25m¦ dronebay on a Moa for the lose In other words, boost the worthless cruisers FFS! ____________________ A gentleman is someone who can play the bagpipe, but who does not.
Sorja E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2005.08.30 17:10:00 - [6] Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK I flew a plated Rax into PVP last week, engaged a fleet of 28 IRON warships (with 6 friendlies), a dozen of which were firing on me, and still almost managed to bag a Crow (Hi Sorja ... I swear, 2 more seconds...) HAHAH! It was you! Fun fight indeed, I love you guys, I mean it, you are a cool bunch I was busy tackling some of your battleships so I only kept a missile launcher on you just... because I ♥ you Shame on you for forcing me to bail out before the fight was over Back on topic, I wasted my weekly Moa yesterday againt a Rax. Everybody in my corp wonders why I still fly that pile of poo, but hey! I'm sentimental and I swore I'd find a way to put that thing to any use (besides sniping, bleh, only for pussies). I knew I had no chance at all but my 'trash' fittings are tech I besides the mag stab II so I just engage whoever challenges me in remotely fair fights. We agreed on a planet, I warped at 15 and, lucky me! he also warped in at 15 so I didn't even need to use my MWD (note that the rax has a HUGE advantage when it comes to MWD, on top of everything else). Unfortunately, he had electron blasters fitted, just like me, so I could not avoid enough of his guns while killing his drones. The fight was over in less than 40 seconds, despite my 800mm plate, kinetic hardener and medium armor rep. Even a medium smartbomb (should I equip a smartbomb that cripples my powergrid only to fight thoraxes?) wouldn't have killed his drones in time, it requires around 50 seconds to get rid of the drones. When my ship exploded, his armor was still around 80% because a Rax has 3 mids, well enough to tackle, MWD and web, and 5 lows which allow very good tanking while the Moa can't use his wonderfull shield boost bonus since the mids are devoted to other things, forcing it to armor tank for dog fights. I had 5 small drones on him while he had 10 heavy drones, for the same guns. 25m¦ dronebay on a Moa for the lose In other words, boost the worthless cruisers FFS! ____________________ A gentleman is someone who can play the bagpipe, but who does not.
Sorja	Posted - 2005.09.06 05:04:00 - [7] Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK With only a few hundred SP a Rax easily surpasses any other cruiser with the same amount of invested skills. Yep, correct. I could care less though, if someone could tell me 'train this and skill to x level and your Cerberus will be the killing machine it was advertised', heh... I wouldn't mind at all This of course, is totally irrelevant to the topic, I was surprized it was still alive after 20 pages and took the opportunity to wave hello at Electro Kill mails
Sorja E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2005.09.06 05:04:00 - [8] Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK With only a few hundred SP a Rax easily surpasses any other cruiser with the same amount of invested skills. Yep, correct. I could care less though, if someone could tell me 'train this and skill to x level and your Cerberus will be the killing machine it was advertised', heh... I wouldn't mind at all This of course, is totally irrelevant to the topic, I was surprized it was still alive after 20 pages and took the opportunity to wave hello at Electro ____________________ A gentleman is someone who can play the bagpipe, but who does not.
Sorja E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2005.09.06 05:04:00 - [9] Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK With only a few hundred SP a Rax easily surpasses any other cruiser with the same amount of invested skills. Yep, correct. I could care less though, if someone could tell me 'train this and skill to x level and your Cerberus will be the killing machine it was advertised', heh... I wouldn't mind at all This of course, is totally irrelevant to the topic, I was surprized it was still alive after 20 pages and took the opportunity to wave hello at Electro ____________________ A gentleman is someone who can play the bagpipe, but who does not.

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