Originally by: Theta9

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WTF how many thorax nerf threads are we going to get THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE SHIP MAYBE YOU ALL SHOULD LEARN HOW TO FIGHT IT!!! I fly thoraxes and i must say that most people i fight against with it are stupid like uber uber stupid. DONT FIGHT THE THORAX FIGHT ITS FREKIN DRONES. thorax is laughable without drones so dont give me this "its so uber we cant beat it!" In a duramaller i can beat a thorax easy because I always always always destroy drones first.

Lets compare cruisers now
Rupture 6HI 3MED 5 LOW this is close to a thorax however 6HI instead of 5 and has options for launchers thorax doesnt. its also considerably faster and has more base powergrid though less cpu.

Maller 6HI 3MED 6LOW this has 2 more slots than a thorax though this is offset by no drone bay. it has considerably more armor than a thorax and 150 more base powergrid and the same cpu as the thorax. though it only has 5 turrets like the thorax but 0 ammo consumption good cap lots of armor high pg for guns and tank

MOA 6HI 4MED 4LOW again has options for missles and has a drone bay if only slight 50 more base PG AND CPU though is a rail platform more than blaster.

THORAX 5HI 3MED 5LOW 5turrets the ONLY thing special about this ship is its mwd bonus and its 200M3 drone bay. you wana drop its drone bay to 100m3? fine then give me an extra med and low slot then ill be just fine about it but ill also need another 100pg drones are DESTROYABLE wich means that if you blow one up you decrease the dps of the ship no other ship has that weakness and without drones it is again a laughable ship at least. I do agree that 1600mm plates are overpowered on cruiser ships but DO NOT TOUCH THE FREKIN THORAX!! you will find that if you make putting 1600mm plates on cruisers nearly imposible or so penalized it becomes impractical that the thorax will become more in line with other cruisers. the thorax has ALWAYS had this drone bay it is its signiture and if its been in the game for so long who are we to say take it away now.

my proposition is to instead of plates giving a velocity penalty they instead give a mass penalty to plates such as

1600mm plate 10,000,000 mass (depending on type some heavier some lighter)
800MM plate 4,000,000 mass (again depending on type)
400mm plate 2,000,000 mass (same as above)
200MM plate 750,000 mass
100mm plate 250,000 mass
50mm plate 50,000 mass

this makes fitting a 1600mm plate on a rax almost double its total mass screwing its agility badly as well as its speed boost from a MWD this probably wont stop thoraxes from puting them on but now you should be able to outrun a rax with just an AB. if you dont fit the 1600mm plate yourself. While a 800mm plate is feasable but still incurse penalties

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Originally by: Theta9

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WTF how many thorax nerf threads are we going to get THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE SHIP MAYBE YOU ALL SHOULD LEARN HOW TO FIGHT IT!!! I fly thoraxes and i must say that most people i fight against with it are stupid like uber uber stupid. DONT FIGHT THE THORAX FIGHT ITS FREKIN DRONES. thorax is laughable without drones so dont give me this "its so uber we cant beat it!" In a duramaller i can beat a thorax easy because I always always always destroy drones first.

Lets compare cruisers now
Rupture 6HI 3MED 5 LOW this is close to a thorax however 6HI instead of 5 and has options for launchers thorax doesnt. its also considerably faster and has more base powergrid though less cpu.

Maller 6HI 3MED 6LOW this has 2 more slots than a thorax though this is offset by no drone bay. it has considerably more armor than a thorax and 150 more base powergrid and the same cpu as the thorax. though it only has 5 turrets like the thorax but 0 ammo consumption good cap lots of armor high pg for guns and tank

MOA 6HI 4MED 4LOW again has options for missles and has a drone bay if only slight 50 more base PG AND CPU though is a rail platform more than blaster.

THORAX 5HI 3MED 5LOW 5turrets the ONLY thing special about this ship is its mwd bonus and its 200M3 drone bay. you wana drop its drone bay to 100m3? fine then give me an extra med and low slot then ill be just fine about it but ill also need another 100pg drones are DESTROYABLE wich means that if you blow one up you decrease the dps of the ship no other ship has that weakness and without drones it is again a laughable ship at least. I do agree that 1600mm plates are overpowered on cruiser ships but DO NOT TOUCH THE FREKIN THORAX!! you will find that if you make putting 1600mm plates on cruisers nearly imposible or so penalized it becomes impractical that the thorax will become more in line with other cruisers. the thorax has ALWAYS had this drone bay it is its signiture and if its been in the game for so long who are we to say take it away now.

my proposition is to instead of plates giving a velocity penalty they instead give a mass penalty to plates such as

1600mm plate 10,000,000 mass (depending on type some heavier some lighter)
800MM plate 4,000,000 mass (again depending on type)
400mm plate 2,000,000 mass (same as above)
200MM plate 750,000 mass
100mm plate 250,000 mass
50mm plate 50,000 mass

this makes fitting a 1600mm plate on a rax almost double its total mass screwing its agility badly as well as its speed boost from a MWD this probably wont stop thoraxes from puting them on but now you should be able to outrun a rax with just an AB. if you dont fit the 1600mm plate yourself. While a 800mm plate is feasable but still incurse penalties

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