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Lucy Oreless
The Guardian Knights
128
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Posted - 2013.04.03 06:54:00 -
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Well Corey (this might be a little to "internal" for the rest of the viewers), but a good FC would not leeroy into a gatecamp.. Loose ship and pod, then make a 2 page mail in "roleplay-mode" about how unjust it was..."bla...bla...bla..." and that the Corp is set KOS by CVA..."bla bla bla bla"... 
A good FC would have that gatecamp scouted out, then he would a) go around it if he could not muster up the right fleet-comp to take it on. b) Break the camp with hes superior knowledge and tactics or c) welp the hell out of the fleet for funs and giggles 
Thanks for the corp-mail btw.... i dont think i have heard quite that many grown men laugh so long and hard ever before on our comms 
Roleplayers  _____________________________________________________________________________________ -áI did not have sexual relations to THAT woman.... |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
240
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Posted - 2013.04.03 11:09:00 -
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Lucy Oreless wrote:Well Corey (this might be a little to "internal" for the rest of the viewers), but a good FC would not leeroy into a gatecamp.. Loose ship and pod, then make a 2 page mail in "roleplay-mode" about how unjust it was..."bla...bla...bla..." and that the Corp is set KOS by CVA..."bla bla bla bla"...  A good FC would have that gatecamp scouted out, then he would a) go around it if he could not muster up the right fleet-comp to take it on. b) Break the camp with hes superior knowledge and tactics or c) welp the hell out of the fleet for funs and giggles  Thanks for the corp-mail btw.... i dont think i have heard quite that many grown men laugh so long and hard ever before on our comms  Roleplayers 
I'm happy that your crew enjoyed our interaction Lucy. I don't play Eve to be feel like a tough guy or to make the best tactical decision every time, RL has too much of that as it is. Flying pixel ships around and bsing about Eve is a good way to get away from that on occasion.
I stayed on grid because the drake that warped in and popped drones was red and you were not. Now you are set red and that wont happen again. Nothing out of place happening here.
My wife laughs about Eve and the antics here, some of the foolish names and the voice coms, mostly grown men with spaceship barbie doll toons and the Iteron V.
So you are very welcome for the corp mail.
Real lifers in Eve  NRDS because its a better game. |

Ivan Ward
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
136
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Posted - 2013.04.03 20:08:00 -
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Lucy Oreless wrote:Well Corey (this might be a little to "internal" for the rest of the viewers), but a good FC would not leeroy into a gatecamp.. Loose ship and pod, then make a 2 page mail in "roleplay-mode" about how unjust it was..."bla...bla...bla..." and that the Corp is set KOS by CVA..."bla bla bla bla"...  A good FC would have that gatecamp scouted out, then he would a) go around it if he could not muster up the right fleet-comp to take it on. b) Break the camp with hes superior knowledge and tactics or c) welp the hell out of the fleet for funs and giggles  Thanks for the corp-mail btw.... i dont think i have heard quite that many grown men laugh so long and hard ever before on our comms  Roleplayers 
I know of an alliance that could use your expertise, if not a whole coalition.
"Hot pilots we have problems too, we're just like you." |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
242
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Posted - 2013.04.03 21:26:00 -
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Ivan Ward wrote:
I know of an alliance that could use your expertise, if not a whole coalition.
You head hunting Ivan?
NRDS because its a better game. |

Hemmo Paskiainen
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
409
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Posted - 2013.04.04 22:55:00 -
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disapline knowlage uniek ability of make ppl follow you: sheepherding skill L5 smart, clever & intelligent
All of the above combines makes a fc good. Missing one is the differance between fail or zomg good CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1522
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Posted - 2013.04.04 23:18:00 -
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There are many different answers to this question.
From my own coalition
DBRB is a top tier FC not because he is particularly good at FC'ing, it's because he's tireless. He doesn't really burn out, so he just churns the enemy down.
Vee is a top tier FC because he is skilled, he knows how when and where to apply pressure and can co-ordinate well with others.
Suas is a top tier FC because he is charismatic, people WANT to be in his fleets, they want to hear him play his guitar as spaceships explode in space around them.
From outside of the alliance:
Shadoo is a great FC because he has deep game knowledge, and a group of highly motivated PVPers behind him.
Shadowandlight is a hahahaha fooled you, he's awful. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7358
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Posted - 2013.04.05 04:05:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:DBRB is a top tier FC not because he is particularly good at FC'ing, it's because he's tireless. He doesn't really burn out, so he just churns the enemy down.
pretty sure DBRB has more supercapital kills(*) to his name than any other FC
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Forceful Injection
Adversity. Rote Kapelle
0
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Posted - 2013.04.14 20:03:00 -
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Has anyone mentioned multitasking? |

Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans
129
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Posted - 2013.04.16 14:03:00 -
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Let's just ask Mr. Vee, because he is "MR. VEE BEST FC" :P R.I.P. Vile Rat |

WarGod
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
20
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Posted - 2013.04.16 18:27:00 -
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A keen sense of smell |

Maisonian
The Green Machine That Escalated Quickly
0
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Posted - 2013.04.23 16:06:00 -
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British Accents :D |

Captain Eliiot
Synapse.
0
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Posted - 2013.04.24 07:04:00 -
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Christopher AET wrote:Flexibility.
The ability to adapt your tactics on the fly to meet a changing situation. Far too many FC's I have seen who wait and wait and wait for the enemy to do exactly what they want and then get flustered when they do not. These people lack the aggressiveness to press an enemy when they are on the back foot and as such are always fighting on the back foot.
When I was in my last alliance we had an FC like this. Decent ship and comp knowledge (most of the time) but indecisive and timid.
Communication
You could well have the finest tactical mind ever to grace this game but if you can't communicate your wishes in a concise manner to your fleet you are useless. Fc's who can't pronounce words or names or who ramble on get the fleet killed.
Decisiveness
Often a poor choice carried out well yields a better result than no choice at all. FC's who freeze or fail to make the choice to commit or withdraw and lose ships in dribs and drabs to a fleeing enemy or lose too many dancing around before committing to lose the fight before it begins.
Self Reflection
"What can I do better" "What went wrong" "Why did that ship die"
In defeat you have to be able to reflect on your mistakes and figure out how to rectify them in future. Even in victory a good FC will reflect on how things could have been made better.
Resilience
Losses and defeats happen. Do not allow yourself to be demoralised. I have seen FC's with great talent resign their tags and even leave the game after even moderate losses.
Aggression
For all the dancing and positioning sometimes it can be the best tactic to go hard at an enemy with little finesse. Most effective against inexperienced FC's who tend to crumble under pressure. You tend to perhaps lose one or two more at the beginning of a fight but once the enemy crumbles it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
Know thy enemy
Some FC's in the game have a massive ego. Some I have FC'd against are even spacefamous for this reason. For this I shall provide an example. The first is Supertwinkey 69 of NCdot fame. When fighting him in kalavela he brought a rokh fleet to fight our ragtag battlecruiser gang. Earlier in the campaign another FC hid 60 battlecruisers from 13 t2 frigs. So I made a show of running away. They gave chase. It did not take long for their fleet to get spread out. I then turned my fleet around and warped back to their tail end. I pretty much got to free fire on several of their ships before the bulk of their fleet arrived. And in their rush to help their mates they warped in line to the gate getting pulled into one of our dictor bubbles. These rokhs were now forced into a brawling fight. It did not end well.
It was his own overconfidence I exploited. The correct thing would be for him to stand his ground and deny the space and safe the system.
The ability to say NO
Often members of an alliances command will pressure an FC to engage when it is inappropriate to do so. Too often they will accept this and go in and die. Sometimes discretion is the better part of valour.
Well this is my little addendum. Ho
You forgot one Chris you also have to FC atleast once every 4 months, and FC in alliances that require you to put on big boy pants, and most importantly keep your ego in check
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Arch Ville
Renegade Vipers Tribal Band
12
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Posted - 2013.05.13 12:07:00 -
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1-¦ Not being Rude to the Fleet. If someone F's up tell him to leave or kick him out...Don't insult. 2-¦ Be Smart. 3-¦ Don't sing or make us listen your **** music. |

Arch Ville
Renegade Vipers Tribal Band
12
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Posted - 2013.05.13 12:08:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:From my experiences, the best FCs are those who can give a clear and comprehensible order in just the right number of words. Anything too lengthy or too short leads to confusion. When people are confused they screw up and if enough people are screwing up your fleet dies.
Just be clear and concise, only say what you need to say but make sure you actually say it.
Of course, this is from the perspective of a typical grunt who has never FCed anything in his life.
And this also.
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Balkor Wolf
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
35
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Posted - 2013.05.13 15:36:00 -
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They are Pros. They are Gods. They are Legends.
In all seriousness though as people have said, staying calm during the mess of such things as ambushes or overwhelming odds. Being tolerant of inexperienced pilots and helping to guide those that are new to a specific role. Overall though just being light hearted and enjoyable to listen to. Over my time playing EVE I have a list of FC's that I would follow in to certain doom just for a chance to fly with them and FCs that I wont even pay attention to their requests because of how terrible they are, the only time I would fly with one of those FCs is if a corpy was in need of help and they were leading it. |

Ryu Ibarazaki
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
63
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Posted - 2013.05.13 23:34:00 -
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Arch Ville wrote:3-¦ Don't sing or make us listen your **** music.
No singing in fleet? What madness is this?
A Fleet Commander should have a beautiful singing voice.
BNI + Bombers Bar Singalong |

Lord Takani
Enterprise Estonia Northern Coalition.
0
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Posted - 2013.05.27 14:16:00 -
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Wey'oun wrote:Peter Powers wrote:a good FC
- is able to give clear and understandable commands
- has an overview of the situation
- has a good understanding of the composition of his fleet, and its capabilities
- can estimate the capabilities of a hostile fleet
- does not "welp" his fleet into a battle that he can forsee not to win
- knows his surroundings
- knows how to read a map
- knows how to deal with lemmings
- enforces voice discipline
- knows when to fight and when to hide
- has a good understanding of the game mechanics
- does not give the other side free kills just for "the fun of it"
- plans ahead, but is flexible enough to change the plan if something happens not included in his plan
- stays always calm and focused
- recovers from a bad call fast
- gets out there and does stuff
I Disagree with alot of those. For example voice discipline. Fleets are meant for fun, if we wanted one person droning orders for us all to follow we would be in the army. whelping into fleets tht you cant win - wrong again. firstly every fleet is beatable if you play it smartly. 2ndly, whelping fleets whilst taking many ppl with you and enjoying it whilst dying is also fun ( game remember?!) for example DnD/FATE suicide dropping dreads in k3 onto cfc dasboot camp. TLDR: ur advocating a good fc is one that only FC's ganks in controlled environments with no risk to own fleet. You are everything that is wrong with EVE and a fundementally flawed human being.
Remember it's only a game! |

Kumduh
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2013.05.28 03:35:00 -
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Being able to shroud your fleet in a fuzzy blanket of awesomeness by trolling enemy bomber gangs. Dingo is the FC of my heart. |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
277
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Posted - 2013.05.28 04:06:00 -
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Arch Ville wrote: 3-¦ Don't sing or make us listen your **** music.
Some of the best fleets Ive been in have had musical interludes provided by the FC for morale!
Take your music hating ways elsewhere! |
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