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Red Teufel Take it Deep 213	Posted - 2013.03.16 22:18:00 - [1] - Quote What's going on in minmatar space? I used to use rens as a market hub to buy my stuff at jita costs but now they don't have my stuffs on market to buy what I need. Is hek the new main market hub in minmatar space these days?
flakeys Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition 899	Posted - 2013.03.16 22:24:00 - [2] - Quote yes , hek's been taking over for a while ... We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Thur Barbek Republic University Minmatar Republic 81	Posted - 2013.03.17 02:24:00 - [3] - Quote I blame eve uni.
Rengerel en Distel Amarr Science and Industry 1278	Posted - 2013.03.17 02:30:00 - [4] - Quote I wish all the non-jita ones were better. Sure, some are better here and there, but the only one that comes close to volume seems to be Amarr. With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
The Renner Canadian Operations Yulai Federation 18	Posted - 2013.03.17 02:56:00 - [5] - Quote This is unacceptable, something must be done.
Shadow Lord77 Shadow Industries I 173	Posted - 2013.03.17 04:49:00 - [6] - Quote Why were there two Minmatar trade hubs to begin with?
Kara Books Deal with IT. 449	Posted - 2013.03.17 04:52:00 - [7] - Quote Umn, rens is where iv bin getting 6B per month and its almost doubled since 3 months ago, your doing something wrong. Dude, rethink your operation and listen here, make it so the prices are comparable to Jita, they will come to you they will love you and they will love the system.
Vera Algaert Republic University Minmatar Republic 845	Posted - 2013.03.17 08:50:00 - [8] - Quote Kara Books wrote: Umn, rens is where iv bin getting 6B per month and its almost doubled since 3 months ago, your doing something wrong. Dude, rethink your operation and listen here, make it so the prices are comparable to Jita, they will come to you they will love you and they will love the system. He's complaining from the perspective of a customer, you are talking from a trader's perspective. In my limited experience manipulations on the most basic t2 and meta 3/4 items have become endemic in Rens - often you end up paying 2-3x JIta price for important modules/rigs if you have to fit a ship in Rens. For a customer this is a problem, for a trader the long distance to Jita and the limited competition are boons. TEST alt - don't trust.
flakeys Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition 900	Posted - 2013.03.17 08:51:00 - [9] - Quote Shadow Lord77 wrote: Why were there two Minmatar trade hubs to begin with? There where not simple really . There was rens and then later on lill brother hek came.Lill brother grew up and now kicks the **** out of big brother. We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Mark Rain Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.03.17 13:18:00 - [10] - Quote Basic herd logic and they mainly gather in Jita. It's the Walmart of eve. Maybe they should lower sales taxes in the other hubs to spur more volume.
Andracin Sickology 68	Posted - 2013.03.18 03:31:00 - [11] - Quote heavily manipulated hubs are fun. You keep hauling in goods from other hubs, sell out quickly and still make a profit....
joyous the Slippery Penguin 5	Posted - 2013.03.18 03:44:00 - [12] - Quote http://www.element-43.com/market/trading/station/ranking/
Shadow Lord77 Shadow Industries I 174	Posted - 2013.03.18 04:03:00 - [13] - Quote flakeys wrote: Shadow Lord77 wrote: Why were there two Minmatar trade hubs to begin with? There where not simple really . There was rens and then later on lill brother hek came.Lill brother grew up and now kicks the **** out of big brother. Thanks for the answer.
Samroski Games Inc. 171	Posted - 2013.03.18 04:25:00 - [14] - Quote I started trading at Hek 5 years ago, and it was pretty active even then. Even though I was a small time trader with a very different perspective. I was not aware of Rens, and when I did find out, it seemed to be pretty far away. Hek is at the junction of 3 regions, and right next door to some interesting low sec, which I feel helps it to flourish. The fact that the regional market does not tell the price of items one jump away (in another region), helped me get started by hauling stuff one jump for some great margins :) I also enjoyed the community that used to hang around Hek all that time ago, even though they baited me into losing my first Drake! Happiness is a warm gun, mama.
Skurja Volpar Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 47	Posted - 2013.03.18 06:57:00 - [15] - Quote There were no BCS IIs in Rens last night, you may be right. It's a shame, Rens was my hub of choice for years.
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 3957	Posted - 2013.03.18 09:09:00 - [16] - Quote Rens because it's close to Ammatar and some pre-agents change biggest mission hubs. Hek because it's accessible for many who have "issues" doing their stuff at higher than 0.5 sec, it's also very close to low sec. Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 3957	Posted - 2013.03.18 09:10:00 - [17] - Quote Shadow Lord77 wrote: Why were there two Minmatar trade hubs to begin with? Rens because it's close to Ammatar and some pre-agents change biggest mission hubs. Hek because it's accessible for many who have "issues" doing their stuff at higher than 0.5 sec, it's also very close to low sec. Auditing \| Collateral holding and insurance \| Consulting \| PLEX for Good Charity Twitter channel
Jori McKie Friends Of Harassment 62	Posted - 2013.03.18 10:27:00 - [18] - Quote Rens is dying sooner or later, because of the Agent changes and Hek nearby http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Heimatar#npc24 The Missionrunner moved to Lustrevik because of the LvL 4 Agents in that systems.
Haradgrim Zenmak Manufacturing and Associates 8	Posted - 2013.03.18 16:13:00 - [19] - Quote I've found demand in Rens is down lately
Celeste Taylor Ruby Dynasty 139	Posted - 2013.03.19 11:29:00 - [20] - Quote I believe the gap between Dodixie and Rens has grown, while the gap between Hek and Rens has narrowed. It feels as though Rens has slowed slightly while Dodixie and Hek have gotten busier.
Quinzel Nikulainen Kokako Acquisitions 100	Posted - 2013.03.19 12:55:00 - [21] - Quote Less saturation is never unwelcome.
Brewlar Kuvakei Adeptio Gloriae Blue Sec 203	Posted - 2013.03.19 13:13:00 - [22] - Quote Hek is taking over as Minmatar Trade Hub. I'll list the reasons why.# 1. Faction Warfare :- Provides much better ISK/Phr, ISK/per effort, ISK/ skill point than doing level 4's. Many bears have left level 4's to grind faction warfare and metro has better access to this space. 2. Location - Hek is closer to Dodxie and Jita so it's easier to supply by 6 jumps. Hek is also in Metro which if you base out of Rancer you can be in Jita, Amarr and Dodixie trade range within 2 jumps of each other. ( I do this which allows me to adjust orders in 3 hubs by simply making 3 jumps). If I wanted to adjust my Rens orders I'd need to make 6 jumps to get into Eystur system. 3. Incursions- Hek has been frequented by several incursions in nearby constellations offering customers and sellers. 4. Data Center and COSMO, Hek is 1 jump from the Cosmo plexes. These 4 things are seeing Hek become the primary Minmatar trade hub. Rens does have some benefits, 1. Good access to level 4 mission runners. 2. Goof access to school systems so new players learn about Rens and start shopping there very soon into the game, 3. 1 Jump from Epic Arc mission suppliers and local systems feature heavily in the arc. Kugutsumen - My signature insures that my post is always read by an ISD or Dev, does yours?
Arronicus vintas industries Mistakes Were Made. 350	Posted - 2013.03.20 09:10:00 - [23] - Quote Red Teufel wrote: What's going on in minmatar space? I used to use rens as a market hub to buy my stuff at jita costs but now they don't have my stuffs on market to buy what I need. Is hek the new main market hub in minmatar space these days? Rens never carried "Everything", but the volume is still reasonable. I bought large amounts of minerals there while producing cruisers and then battlecruisers.
Red Teufel Take it Deep 214	Posted - 2013.03.22 16:26:00 - [24] - Quote well very well thanks for the info. but looks like i'll no longer be using rens anymore.
YuuKnow Terra-Formers 682	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:54:00 - [25] - Quote Here to hoping Rens fades and Hek becomes the new Minmatar trade hub. Hek is closer to the main Jita/Amarr/Dodixie passage routes. When you ship freighter loads of stuff the extra travel time can become significant to the point that Rens was inconvient and a waste of time away from the other hubs. yk
Degren Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2206	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:58:00 - [26] - Quote Unrelated but I didn't want to make a new thread: The stickies at the top of this forum are actually quite helpful. Hello, hello again.
Seraph Castillon Justified Chaos 38	Posted - 2013.03.23 11:34:00 - [27] - Quote Hubs like this are becoming more like secondary hubs. You notice it in Dodixie as well. Half of the stuff on market there no longer comes from primary production, it is flown in from Jita and put on market at a serious mark-up. Causes? If you ask me the increasing popularity of Jita is causing most primary producers to simply ship their product there to sell, instead of selling it in the hubs in their own region/empire. On top of that the increasing popularity of FW and the changes to level 4 mission agents standing requirements is making it so that some locations are just not as relevant as they used to be.
JohnathanGalt Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 53	Posted - 2013.04.10 03:44:00 - [28] - Quote I would agree with the consensus that Hek is busier lately and Rens is slower. I think Hek having a built in EUNI population helps it as well.
Alien Youth Exiter Corp Casoff 12	Posted - 2013.04.10 12:58:00 - [29] - Quote How is Amarr looking? Seeing as i never undock i was thinking about setting up a station trader there.
OllieNorth Recidivists Incorporated 230	Posted - 2013.04.10 18:16:00 - [30] - Quote Rens:Hek::Oursulaert:Dodixie Also, how did Arnon IX fall to 20th? I always figured it would be higher.

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